New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

I think the X pricing will just become the regular pricing for new phones from now on. Doubt there will be a successor to the 8

ugh hope not, it’s ridiculous

This thing costs as much as an iMac. No fucking way.

It is alarming when I look at it like this...

http://i63.tinypic.com/10cknl4.jpg

This thing costs as much as an iMac. No fucking way.

― stet, Friday, October 27, 2017 7:16 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark

hella expensive but i easily use my phone 3x-4x more than my computer for personal stuff now. i think this may become the new normal for most people.

yup, I think it's phone > work computer > iPad > home computer for me

I probably use my phone a hundred times a day. At least.

Yeah, phone as main hub is normcore

my last two home pcs have lasted 8+ years, i doubt an iPhone will

"After 11 payments, you’re eligible to upgrade to a new iPhone. Just trade in your current iPhone and simply start the programme again with your new choice of model, colour or storage capacity.It’s that easy".

What could posibly go wrong?

Compare car loans, allowing people to acquire a new car for a certain time period in exchange for a deposit and monthly fees, before handing back the vehicle, trading it in for another. Borrowers are stretched- figures from the US Federal Reserve Bank of New York show overdue car loan repayments have risen to levels not seen since the financial crisis.

I use my kettle more than my DSLR but I'm definitely not paying more for it.

Does your DSLR make tea?

Or even better, does your kettle take pictures?

If you're really afraid of getting underwater on phone payments, then that plan isn't at all for you -- get a prepaid plan and buy a cheaper phone outright.

At least in the last few years carriers have been forced into not doing the required subsidy plans

The upgrade plan is great if you get a new phone every year anyway and don’t want to deal with selling your old one.

I’d orobably do the upgrade plan if it were available in Australia, not so lucky. The best you can do is 12 months interest free and then you have to sell the phone when it’s time to upgrade, Apple will give me $255 for my 6plus which seems pretty paltry when their asking $2000+ once you factor in phone, case and apple care.

average life on last two macs has been 7 years. average life on an iphone 3-4?

Not sure AppleCare on this thing makes sense.

In my experience, Apple will replace almost anything in the 1st year for any reason. After that, even if you have to pay the screen fix out of warranty it's $40 more than apple pay + deductible. I guess it makes sense if you drive over things with trucks a lot? Worst case, I'd just get a refurbished 7 or something.

You are probably right. I have managed to go 3 years with the 6 plus and not break the screen and for other things we get a 2 year warranty in Oz.

I've broken one screen out of all my phones and it was about two months in. Dropped it face down on a rock! Never had a chance.

never buy warranties imo

I broke the screen of my phone at a bachelor party several years ago; since then, I've broken another phone screen and two iPad screens. It's like the dam burst and now these things shatter on me at the drop of a hat (or a phone or iPad). Having small children in the house doesn't help; one of them poured water into my laptop this week.

Yep, small kids are screen smasher extraordinaire.

I could blame the first screen smash on a salmon-flavored vodka hangover; the subsequent ones are all child-related.

total cost of ownership is lower if you just buy the things outright.

by all means pay the higher price of leasing so you don't have to deal with selling your old phone, and you get insurance bundled if that works for you.

but fwiw: if you're a regular phone breaker/loser, you can get cheaper insurance by buying it from an insurance company than you get bundled into the price of a lease from verizon or whoever.

generally though, insure events you couldn't afford to cover (health, life, etc. not your phone). insurance is a profitable business because insurance costs more than the odds of needing it imply.

I could blame the first screen smash on a salmon-flavored vodka hangover;

Did you smash the screen with your vomit??

total cost of ownership is lower if you just buy the things outright.

Even on the zero-interest installment plan?

yes on the apple one (since apple bundles in cost of applecare) - may not be as true for the carrier ones (i.e. i think ATT Next does not have that bundled in) but not sure what additional fees ATT etc. may try to sell you

leasing is appealing in that it's like you're guaranteed half the MSRP + the pro rated applecare when you upgrade and trade it in. idk i still buy my phones outright.

Did you smash the screen with your vomit??

Ha I wish it was that interesting a story; I blearily put my phone on a windowsill after plugging it in and it promptly slid off and landed face down on a concrete floor, splintering the screen all to be damned.

salmon flavored vodka? like the fish?

http://www.drinkmemag.com/smoked-salmon-flavored-vodka-from-alaska-distillery/

The bachelor party (of former ILXor Fluffy Bear/Austerity Ponies) had one condition; bring the most absurd/disgusting alcohol you could find. This was my contribution.

possibly relevant:
John Justen and Fluffy Bear Will Drink It

Dear lord.

haha I should have known there'd be documented evidence of that on ILX somewhere

Even on the zero-interest installment plan?

― Spencer Chow, Friday, October 27, 2017 3:03 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fair. if you don't mind the paperwork and trust yourself to make the payments and our credit score is good (and won't be made worse by the lease) then buying the same thing with interest free payments is free money.

but a phone lease is not the same thing. it bakes in the cost of an upgrade and insurance and extra profit for more than one third party.

I would get installments without AppleCare which is a (somewhat hidden) option.

average life on last two macs has been 7 years. average life on an iphone 3-4?

― ||||||||, Saturday, 28 October 2017 05:00 (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

macs aren't advancing all that quickly compared to phones though. the mbp i got in 2010 is absolutely fine (i'm using it right now), but the iphone 4 from the same year struggles to run ios 7 from 2013.

not that i'm saying an x will definitely run ios 18, but phone power has to plateau at some point.

and/or apple should stop bloating up iOS

the high end iPads being as powerful as the lower end macbooks, moreso in some ways, is kind of a mindfuck

I'll be interested in Macs again when they finally stick an Apple-designed chip in one

and/or apple should stop bloating up iOS

― 龜, Saturday, 28 October 2017 08:10 (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, i suppose my point is (a) if phone tech slows down like mac tech has, the bloating potential of ios 15 on an iphone xiii (or whatever their naming convention is now) would be limited, so (b) they might be forced to stop bloating ios the way they've already stopped bloating osx

or (c)

I'll be interested in Macs again when they finally stick an Apple-designed chip in one

― .oO (silby), Saturday, 28 October 2017 08:37 (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, this is probably where we'll be by 2020, apple saying "fuck this abrogation of moore's law, we'll do it ourselves"

i have one on the way but am still skeptical about face ID. youtube reviews are out and everything about it makes it seem slower/less convenient than touchID

Still horrified how slow/bad Siri is, don't trust in FaceID

Touch ID gets faster the more you use it as it learns more of your fingerprint. I’d imagine face ID will as well.

I have no desire to have to make eye contact with my phone every time I want to use it, even if it can see me in the dark.

Touch ID gets faster the more you use it as it learns more of your fingerprint. I’d imagine face ID will as well.

― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, October 30, 2017 3:58 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark

right but the whole 'swipe to unlock' is bad. with touchID phones you can pull from your pocket and be at yr home screen before you even raise it to yr face

despite reports from people who apparently don't know what they're talking about, the music & radio apps in watchos 4.1 do work on a non-lte series 3. they just suck it across from your phone via bluetooth.

had a look at an x today. it’s definitely good, but it really doesn’t stand out all that much against other phones. even the screen is on par with current oled screens. the hype train is crazy.

The thing I like about the X is the larger screen in a smaller form factor. I’ll be checking at least one store today on the off chance there are any available