¡In-de-pen-dén-cia! - The Catalonia Independence Referendum

here's to good feelings

the in-laws seem to be having fun atm
https://streamable.com/155yi

Puigdemont and people from parliament will probably be arrested. But for scope: there are 300,000 civil servants alone. Good luck to Madrid trying to get them to do what you want.

i really am worried about bloodshed.

Obviously NATO and/or the EU will step in NB sarcasm

Sadly otm. It's the same meaningless 'pls to be civil kay amigos? bye lol'.

is open warfare a possibility/likelihood? I mean I can see the Madrid gov't sending in troops/police and doing some martial law shit, but do the Catalonians actually have arms they could take up? would we be looking at some kind guerilla insurgency?

the mossos d'esquadra - catalan police force - are divided on issue of independence and estranged from the spanish guardia civil

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-spain-politics-catalonia-mossos-analy/demoralized-and-divided-inside-catalonias-police-force-idUSKBN1CT2MT

there are no paramilitary orgs

yet

getting a paramilitary org together takes some doing mind, and usually requires both foreign sponsorship and a concentrated urban, working-class base in specific geographical areas which become strongholds (catalunya doesn't really have this)

Demonstrations in Barcelona today for unity with Spain... 300,000 people according to the Guardia Urbana, 1.3 million according to organisers/supporters. Sounds a large turnout whatever the true figure.

I've been really struggling to clarify my thoughts on the situation lately, after discussions with my Spanish teachers and my Spanish partner have questioned some of my previous conceptions.

Everyone's seems to have forgotten about this but the regional election count is on.

i haven't forgotten.

seems there will probably be a spanish nationalist majority.

My Catalan colleague was extremely disappointed that I'd forgotten :(

(xp) I would expect so.

didnt forget (je me souviens?)

but there is not much that catalonians can do i fear

well apparently I'm wrong. there will likely be a pro-independence majority.

http://www.lavanguardia.com/politica/20171221/433800930490/elecciones-catalanas-encuesta-cierre-urna.html

though Ciudadanos (new "centrist" spanish nationalist party that has emerged in the last few years and became the main spanish nationalist party in catalunya) will be the party with most votes/seats

Let's wait and see.

Def not forgotten, just didn't have any time left to post abt here. Been in touch with a lot of Catalan friends about it, too.

It seems to close to call yet. Exit poll had pro-indep losing a couple of seats. Wait and see otm.

looks like it happened. independence parties will still have a majority, though with 2 less seats. Cs the biggest party. With the surprise on the nationalist side being that Junts per Catalunya got more seats than ERC.

if the spanish government had anything about them they would allow a binding referendum, free the nationalist prisoners, and watch as independence narrowly failed at the ballot box. this thing could be more or less done and dusted in a year.

watch while they do the opposite

"With more than 99% of votes counted, the pro-independence parties Together for Catalonia, Republican Left of Catalonia and Popular Unity were together on course to win a total of 70 seats, giving them a majority."

sorry didn't read last posts before posting

Some of the footage being posted online is truly horrifying.

warning: this video is upsetting.

Barcelone: la police espagnole sur la sellette pour ses violences contre les manifestants https://t.co/q9H2tbZkg1 @denterd pic.twitter.com/4YeSW6VDyI

— L'important (@Limportant_fr) October 19, 2019

holy shit at that dude managing to maintain his composure while being followed down the street by a gang of cops battering the fuck out of his legs

Ten armed Spanish policemen beating simultaneously an unarmed Catalan. Tonight it has been a carnage. #HelpCatalonia pic.twitter.com/07autW19iB

— Help Catalonia 🎗 (@CataloniaHelp2) October 18, 2019

fucking fascists

The Spanish PM @sanchezcastejon expelled by the Health Staff from the Barcelona’s hospital where he tried to do a performance with a policeman injured. Outside too hundreds call him a criminal pic.twitter.com/W5kfZmdchw

— Help Catalonia 🎗 (@CataloniaHelp2) October 21, 2019

Shocking scenes in Barcelona tonight.

Police clashing with demonstrators, and being completely overwhelmed.

pic.twitter.com/fesQIFwwAH

— Joshua Potash 🆘 (@JoshuaPotash) October 27, 2019

hey, people are having a drink, let's attack them

Una altra actuació entranyable de @mossos
Res a dir? pic.twitter.com/gBNAOP7BFw

— Roger Vidal 🎗️ (@RogerVidalColl) October 27, 2019

Fascists off the leash.