Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

well, there’s living as a private person who has sexual relations, and then there’s whatever Spacey’s been doing for the last 30 years which is...not that

What an awful response, holy shit

What a transparent, horrible way to try and force a different conversation

"i don't remember it because it was 30 years ago but i'm cool just blaming it on being drunk"

Put more succinctly than I did

Celebrity Frames Horrible Allegations As Start Of Personal Growth Arc

— Pixelated Borat (@pixelatedboat) October 30, 2017

this makes me SO angry jesus

throwing the queer community under the bus to defend yourself against allegations you sexually assaulted a minor. absolutely despicable

For real. It's not like gay men have had to defend themselves against accusations of pederasty for all of time...oh wait, yes they have. Thanks, Kevin!

This is beyond awful.

It's evil.

(Kevin Spacey beats a man to death with an accordion)

“I’m sure you’ve heard the rumors. They’re true. I am indeed an accordion player.”

— Jason Steele (@FilmCow) October 30, 2017

grim lol.

Halperin got the full kibosh.

NBC News has terminated Mark Halperin’s contract, following HBO, Showtime and Penguin in severing ties with him.

— Michael Calderone (@mlcalderone) October 30, 2017

Spacey at this point indistinguishable from Frank Underwood

And now, more

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/us/harvey-weinstein-sexual-assault-allegations.html

how does Corey Feldman square his current crusade with his past friendship w and support of a certain very very famous accused child molester

(I say this as someone who is generally sympathetic to Feldman, but it is weird)

selective outrage is one possibility

I see no connection at all

Breaking: HOUSE OF CARDS, which stars Kevin Spacey, ending with its 6th season, say @mikeylikestv https://t.co/kRM9SAOhmo

— Borys Kit (@Borys_Kit) October 30, 2017

how does Corey Feldman square his current crusade with his past friendship w and support of a certain very very famous accused child molester

According to this Matt Lauer interview...

FELDMAN: “I told the police. In fact if anyone wants to go back to 1993, when I was interviewed by the Santa Barbara Police Department. I sat there and gave them the names. They are on record. They have all of this information, but they were scanning Michael Jackson. All they cared about was trying about to find something on Michael Jackson.”
LAUER: “Who you said, by the way, did not abuse you.”
FELDMAN: “Who Michael was innocent. And that was what the interview was about with the pollice in 1993. I told them, he is not that guy. And they said, maybe you don’t understand your friend. And I said, no, I know the difference between pedophiles and somebody that is not a pedophile because I have been molested. Here’s the names, go investigate.

I figured he was on record there

yeah my feeling is that there’s no way Feldman would proclaim the innocence of a child molester if he was being abused himself or knew MJ was abusing others. it just wouldn’t happen.

I can totally imagine Feldman not knowing about MJ abuse though, or just not wanting to believe it.

Surely House of Cards ending has more to do with the Trump presidency making it redundant.

did anyone watch more than 1.5 season of it? I watched two and I watch nearly anything

I can totally imagine Feldman not knowing about MJ abuse though, or just not wanting to believe it.

― Οὖτις, Monday, October 30, 2017 3:49 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yup

Spacey Singer Spacey Singer Spacey Singer Ancier Geffen good afternoon. How are you today? pic.twitter.com/bh49XvN0ea

— rose mcgowan (@rosemcgowan) October 30, 2017

I can totally imagine Feldman not knowing about MJ abuse though, or just not wanting to believe it.

― Οὖτις, Monday, October 30, 2017 3:49 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yup

― gbx, Monday, October 30, 2017 4:52 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In which case... it's not really a mystery how he could reconcile his crusade with his friendship with MJ.

I didn't say it was a huge mystery, I just raised it as an interesting point. Humanity's capacity for compartmentalization is always interesting.

if MJ were really the molester he was portrayed to be I would have expected loads more information to have started flowing after his death, and it never did.

fair point

I can't recall any MJ tell-alls coming out either, which is interesting.

maybe he was about as interesting as he appeared to be, which was: seemed like a weirdo, was probably just a secret drunk and pill head, liked to ride a little train with a monkey.

Yeah I mean it is pretty difficult to keep people from spilling your shit once you're dead.

and ... who does that not describe, really? (xpost)

heh

south park and kendrick have exonerated mj, good enough for me (kind of)

i read something ages ago that he spent so long fucking with the press & not giving a fuck about how he was perveivec that when the first accusations arose he had no good will left with the press to even begin to tell anyone on the outside anything resembling the truth - no one wpuld believe him anyway. his world was so closed off and he burned all his bridges that the accusations were able to take him down without a lot of questioning

anyway, way off topic now - better for the MJ thread than here

*perceived

MJ seems very much like Tom Cruise: a full-on rich and powerful weirdo, but probably not a criminal. I mean, I wouldn't want my kids hanging out with Cruise, either.

when tom cruise shares his bed with kids that aren't his and keeps open bottles of liquor and porno mags in the en suite bathroom i'll worry about his behaviour around children

perveivec

I propose we submit this to urbandictionary

lol

Is Rose McGowan pointing a finger at David Geffen? Gonna have to take his name off of a fuck ton of buildings if thats true

yeah his name has been thrown around for a long time along with Spacey & Singer

xxpost Jim re porn: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/no-child-porn-found-at-neverland-thenor-now-the_us_577fdfbce4b0f06648f4a3f8

Ancier? xpost

this site goes into a lot of detail re: the Michael Jackson allegations: https://www.mjfacts.com/michael-jacksons-dangerous-liaisons/

I know that when I'm looking for facts about MJ, I go to mjfacts.com. As I understand it*, it would be illegal for them to publish anything else.

* Voiceover: He didn't understand it.

the person behind that site definitely has an agenda (they're upfront that they believe MJ had a sexual interest in boys, and the aim of the site is to provide evidence to that end), but it collects a lot of information in one place and generally seems pretty well researched imo

I'm guessing Garth Ancier?

xpost