Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

fox only outlet brave enough to run with the terrorism angle

still unverified whether shots were or weren't fired

I'm basically down the street and around the corner and no one knew anything until my boyfriend texted me to be like "Hi are you alive?"

Trump probably thanking Mammon right now

I hate myself but the first thing I thought of was Trump.

glad you're ok, in orbit. i used to take a long lunchbreak every few weeks and walk west on chambers all the way to the hudson, right by stuyvesant high school, so i can visualize right where it happened. :(

yeah, fucker really did Our Regime a favor, it seems

Eyewitnesses told police the driver yelled “Allahu Akbar!” — Arabic for “God is great!” — after leaving the mangled bodies scattered behind his rental truck. The Middle Eastern man was arrested after police shot him in the rear end. Sources said he was waving a pair of guns when cops reached the scene.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/dead-gunman-home-depot-truck-runs-bikers-article-1.3602094

A press conference is happening now. Mayor de Blasio has called the incident an act of terror, and said the death toll is now eight victims.

Cuomo said it was an isolated incident, not connected to larger terror plot. Still nervous whenever this shit happens that there'll be a 2nd/3rd attack

If the name released by ABC is correct, he’s probably not from the Middle East.

Uzbek is what I'm hearing -- emigrated in 2010, from Tampa.

xp what kind of name is that? somewhere around the caspian?

Uzbekistan according to CBS

which is to say close enough to 'Middle Eastern' for 70% of the country

guess that travel ban wasn't wide enough

sad lol

May has tweeted "Together we will defeat the evil of terrorism." Didn't say that re Vegas.

Has trump called ubeki beki beki stan stan consultant to get info on next steps

3 dead in Thornton, Colorado Walmart shooting.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/01/shooting-at-thornton-colorado-walmart.html

It took authorities more than 12 hours to find the shooter.

Here's one reason for the delay: http://www.denverpost.com/2017/11/02/shoppers-pulled-weapons-walmart-shooting/

this blew my mind

Darlene Jackson, a truck driver, said she was in the toy section of the store when she heard the gunshots. She later heard that people other than the shooter had guns, but they did not confront the killer.

“Why wouldn’t they draw their guns and shoot him?” she said.

Jackson said she owns a gun but didn’t have it with her at the time. She said she and her husband are going to a shooting range to practice firing the weapon.

yeah me too. i pictured darlene as one of those onion man on the street people too. darlene jackson, truck driver: "why didn't someone just shoot him?"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/las-vegas-shooting-motive-gunman-013034944.html

Lombardo said he still has doubts and questions about how none of Paddock's family or friends say they knew about his plans. He specifically said that "it's hard for me to believe" the gunman's girlfriend, Marilou Danley, didn't know.

"You would think that Mrs. Danley would have some information associated with that, but currently, we haven’t been able to pull that out of her—if it’s in her," Lombardo said.

He also said the continued comments to the news media from Paddock's brother, Eric, aren't helping.

"He continues to dig a hole," Lombardo said, adding there was something off "associated with the family."

outside looking in here but i actually think this sheriff is wrong, there's no reason to believe she'd have any information about this shooting because the guys who *don't* get caught in time before they kill a bunch of people are very meticulous in their plotting. if he could smuggle an entire arsenal into a hotel without anyone noticing he could smuggle guns one at a time over a period of many years pretty easily. especially if he had a private space she never ventured into (which was perhaps the case from what i understand?)

that's some weird speculation about the family.

#BREAKING: Sources talking to our investigator @anblanx. LATEST: Multiple dead, at least 15 injured, death toll could be in 20s. #Sutherland

— Steve Patterson (@PattersonNBC) November 5, 2017

^church shooting in Texas

another source saying 24 dead (plus shooter)

Seems like these mass shootings keep escalating.

how long can this continue

jeez

Well I can’t imagine it helps that the nation has anointed a sociopath as its supreme leader.

BBC radio just reported 27 casualties.

the New fucking Normal

After Newtown, the NRA has become unbeatable. This country.

It's not new

Xp

i'd have to see the data but pretty sure regular attacks with double-digit numbers of ppl dead is pretty new

5 of the 10 deadliest have occurred in the past 5 years (Sandy Hook in Dec 2012 being the least recent, the rest being Vegas/Orlando/San Antonio/San Bernardino.)

used to be extremely unusual historically speaking, then it used to happen every decade, then every year, now it seems to occur every month.

hold up, were there just two mass church shootings? One in Texas and one in Tennessee?

one disturbing thing to me is that they're occurring so frequently that you end up subconsciously developing a system to filter your attention to it. e.g., if the number of deaths is particularly high, or if it targeted a location or community that you can imagine yourself in (church, school, a concert, a dance club, etc), or if the backstory behind the shooter(s) is unusually compelling. it's just so fucked up to have a model for how to deal with a mass shooting, and you can't help it because it happens so frequently and there's not enough time to devote full attention and energy to thinking about all of them, every time.

oh I see, that other one was a few weeks ago.

One witness, Carrie Matula, told NBC News: "We heard semi-automatic gunfire… we're only about 50 yards away from this church."

maybe i live a sheltered life but something that always bugs me in reports like this is how it's apparently normal to know what semi-automatic gunfire sounds like.

We go camping in Wisconsin, and we like to go to this living history farm called Old World Wisconsin. Not far off - it's hard to tell where - is a shooting range, so when you're wandering around these old barns and learning how they made horseshoes and jars and bricks and stuff you just hear this constant "crack! crack crack crack! crack!" Same thing when we went horseback riding in the area. Sort of ruins the mood.

Bruce Willis fans xp

To be honest, as horrifying as it seems it's gotten to the point where people in this country should probably familiarize themselves with the sounds of guns, semi-auto or not. We are on a local Facebook group, and every weekend there is inevitably a thread where someone asks "is that fireworks or are those gun shots?" I want to say witnesses in Las Vegas thought the gunfire was fireworks at first, too.

Greg Abbott called the shooting an “evil act”

President Trump said...that he is “monitoring the situation from Japan.”

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said in a statement: “The thoughts and prayers of all Texans are with the people of Sutherland Springs..."

“I never thought it would happen here,” she said.

and just when it was finally the appropriate time to start politicizing the Vegas shooting

yeah didn't even time to process what happened in NYC then this happened.

It feels like we need a German word for the weird kind of dread that accompanies the wait for an explanation in these things. Who the shooter is, why they did it, etc.

Here's the church's YouTube page, if you'd like to see them before they became a national phrase like "Sandy Hook".

To be honest, as horrifying as it seems it's gotten to the point where people in this country should probably familiarize themselves with the sounds of guns, semi-auto or not. We are on a local Facebook group, and every weekend there is inevitably a thread where someone asks "is that fireworks or are those gun shots?" I want to say witnesses in Las Vegas thought the gunfire was fireworks at first, too.

― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, November 5, 2017 9:36 PM (fifty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Commend you for finding a silver lining in all this (if I understand you correctly?) but it should not be normal for people to familiarize themselves with (the sound or sight of) guns.

Here's the church's YouTube page, if you'd like to see them before they became a national phrase like "Sandy Hook".

― pplains, Sunday, November 5, 2017 10:00 PM (thirty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I should not have watched this. Looks like there are only 50 people at those services, tops, so... Fuck.