Mike Tyson - a convicted rapist
At least he did time unlike the rest of these guys
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 22:45 (six years ago) link
this thread can be about predators absolutely but right now it’s devolved into overlooked movies from the 90’s and I want it to stop
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 23:13 (six years ago) link
BREAKING: Six women, including @oliviamunn & @nathenstridge, have accused Brett Ratner of sexual harassment or misconduct. Our story: https://t.co/qwjjQAIuFk— Amy Kaufman (@AmyKinLA) November 1, 2017
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 13:48 (six years ago) link
Christ not the little big man as well..
― piscesx, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link
can revelations about mcg and/or zack snyder be far behind
― proton, neutron, electron and crouton (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
wd assume that spacey's career is basically over now, right? regardless of the status of his past films, it's hard to imagine him getting cast in anything any time soonThe hastiness of House Of Cards' cancellation suggests coworkers know there's more to come out. At the moment there's one story about him, as a youngish closeted former teen theatre kid, making a move on a teen theatre kid that he'd picked as being gay, and stopping when consent wasn't given. There have been loads of past murmurs about modern Spacey being a creep in London theatre, but a less horrendous "apology" to Rapp could have resolved this situation career-wise, if it's all there is.
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link
there's this now, though:
https://www.avclub.com/two-more-actors-accuse-kevin-spacey-of-sexual-assault-a-1820037557
― drejelire, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link
Spacey obliterated any chance at career rehabilitation with his statement throwing the LGBT community under the bus. There will be no Mel Gibson-esque reconsideration in 10 years.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link
Spacey has three major films in the can right now: he's starring in two of them, and the other one is a pretty big deal, Billionaire Boys Club. I wonder what's going to happen there, they can't exactly CGI him out.
― drejelire, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link
yeah i just saw the trailer for the J Paul Getty one
might go straight to video/stream
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link
the Brett Ratner thing is the least surprising thing on the planet. him going on a radio show and bragging about a sexual relationship with someone, a relationship that never happened, is probably a good indicator of a terrible human being and a red flag of someone capable of exactly what the stories tell.
― drejelire, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link
yeah Ratner is not surprising and iirc there were stories before. I remember Howard Stern going over a clip of Ratner being interviewed by Jimmy Kimmel and him telling a story about hanging with Michael Jackson and throwing water balloons at homeless people from a limo at five in the morning. Howard was horrified- glad the clip is still up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufp006AHlgs
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
trying to think which hollywood man I'd be surprised to learn such things about. Clooney has a pretty squeaky image I guess. Spielberg. That's probably it.
― akm, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link
i'd probably be surprised by Scorsese if only because for all his various wives over the years and earlier drug problems, he just seems like someone whose life is devoted to film. and everything i hear about him suggests he's an extremely decent guy. but you never know what happened in the '70s, and i remember a story or two from that Biskind book that weren't exactly in line w/what i just noted about him.
― drejelire, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link
Always interesting the hear where Stern draws the line.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link
I wouldn't be shocked it Clooney were a shithead. Spielberg, yeah. Tom Hanks, yeah.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link
No one would surprise me, really. When you start thinking people are too innocent-seeming or above behavior, you start drawing lines.
― mh, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link
Clooney's pranking antics are well-known enough that I wouldn't put it past him to not have the best judgment of when to not cross the line
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:35 (six years ago) link
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-me-i-was-17-guest-column-1053466
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
Nic Cage, be disappointing if he was up to anything as mundane tbh
― Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
that's true, cf the responses to the Ratner accusations in the piece from his former assistants...
― drejelire, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
Drew CareyGarry MarshallDenzel WashingtonWill SmithDaniel Dae KimJohn ChoAziz AnsariChris PrattMike SchurWil ArnettClive Owen
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
you can safely assume the more power and wealth someone accumulates, the more likely it is they've felt entitled to doing awful things
― Simon H., Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
Multiple xps: I'm currently reading that recent biography of George Lucas, and whenever Marcia was off editing a film for Marty, Lucas made it absolutely clear he did not trust Scorsese not to try to make a move on her.
BTW, Dustin Hoffman: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-me-i-was-17-guest-column-1053466
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link
like none of the 10 DJP just listed would be at all shocking to me idk xp
― Simon H., Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link
Flight of the concords guys
― Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
Mike Schur would be shocking primarily from a friend-of-friends perspective
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
It would not surprise me to learn that any given man who had ever done anything for attention had committed sexual assault.
― .oO (silby), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link
surely our ruffalo would never
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link
this is turning into a tabloid "who's up next" and it's gross
― mh, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link
Also, as these allegations mount and we tally them, it feels like we are starting to be more interested in keeping a tally on a scorecard than we are in helping the people victimized in these situations. I don't know what to do about that feeling.― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:01 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:01 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link
Tom Cruise is an obvious one. Travolta too. Although they're probably being shielded by Scientology for now.
Clooney is gay, right? That's the only gossip I've heard about him, that all his girlfriends were beards.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link
let's ask his wife
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link
well obviously she'd lie
― j., Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link
so that's how it works
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:50 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
& wives/ex-wives of Cruise, Travolta...
anyway sorry getting off topic again
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:04 (six years ago) link
take it to the toxic masculinity thread
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link
pretty sure clooney is not gay although his wife is gorgeous as fuck
― akm, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link
also being gay doesn't disqualify you as spacey has proven
― akm, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
the creepy accusations against Cruise (coming from, for instance, my TV fantasy girlfriend Nazanin Boniadi) have been so public for so long with zero ramifications I wonder if anything will ever come of them. granted I guess they aren't assault, they're just creepy.
― akm, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link
now's the time if it's ever going to happen. But Cruise, Travolta, + many others are protected by Scientology in addition to their endless NDAs, lawyers, cash reserves, etc.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/top-newsroom-official-at-npr-resigns-amid-harassment-allegations/2017/11/01/d26d682c-bf1e-11e7-8444-a0d4f04b89eb_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-low_npr-1245pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.2af22efb9b2b
― j., Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/31/us/dartmouth-professors-sexual-misconduct.html?&moduleDetail=section-news-2&action=click&contentCollection=U.S.®ion=Footer&module=MoreInSection&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=article
― j., Wednesday, 1 November 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link
that piece re Dustin Hoffman is utterly, believably sad
these 'artists' who allegedly strive for the transcendent and go as low as they can around 'littler' people...
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link
morbs otm
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link
and thinking about being 17 too ... it hurts my heart for her to have to reconcile his behaviour with this setting where she was so excited to just be a part of it
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link
the common thread among all these stories is the sense of celebrity arrogance and the sense that everyone around them is theirs for the taking. sometimes it's a very casual, offhand behavior, and sometimes it's very calculated and predator-like, and sometimes it's this desperate and pathetic use of status to get what they want. sometimes it's two of the three, sometimes all three.
― drejelire, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link
Every secondhand story I've heard about a male celebrity is a variant on the continuum of "that guy is a dog" or "that guy is a groper" or "don't be in a room alone with that guy" - whether they're d-list British celebs or proper famous ones.
...Except for one of the guys mentioned upthread by DJP, who is likewise an acquaintance of an acquaintance and a super low-key nice person.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link
Has this been posted?
“I am sorry for all the times I stabbed men, just a little, in my previous workplace. After years of counseling, I stopped stabbing men.”— Kate Harding (@KateHarding) October 28, 2017
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link
http://www.dailywire.com/news/22912/former-grad-student-accuses-neil-de-grasse-tyson-emily-zanotti
― j., Thursday, 2 November 2017 00:13 (six years ago) link