that popular ironic ilx insult "cuck"
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link
Ian D.
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link
If the CTH Universe was propped up with Russian Money, Street Fight would be bragging about and doing waaaaaay more drugs.
― louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link
Kratom by the kilo
well this has taken a turn
― Simon H., Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link
*wonders to self* What are people fighting about on the Chapo thread now?*clicks*"blinks**blinks again**clicks back, considering the void and the unknowable strangeness of man*
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link
related note: just heard that apparently "liberal" is a bad word again--only this time it's being stigmatized by those on the left. If your goal is to make no one feel safe self-identifying with left-wing politics for fear of using the wrong moniker you're doing a great fucking job
― Dan I., Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link
where did you "hear" that, Lenny Letter?
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link
I think we found a time traveler from February 2017.
― louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link
Back in 2016 it was more common for tankies to accuse them of being a CIA front. Tables have turned I guess.
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/76x4h3/cuck/?st=j9hbmpxz&sh=b0677581Sheesh! Believe me, that was not at all cherry picked either
― Dan I., Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link
oh i think you're looking for a different thread: everybody on ilx complains about reddit
― Mordy, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5909751aebe912338a377961/16:9/w_1200,h_630,c_limit/Rothman-TheAmericans.jpg
Chapo Patreons #s 1 and 2
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link
tbf dan most of the posts in that thread are by surkov
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link
where did you "hear" that, Lenny Letter?― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:29 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkI think we found a time traveler from February 2017.― louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:30 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:29 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:30 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lmao
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link
How dyou you dyou, fyellow dyirtbags?
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
If your goal is to make no one feel safe self-identifying with left-wing politics for fear of using the wrong moniker you're doing a great fucking job
Dan, what are you anxious about?
― Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link
we're already living it, man
― Dan I., Wednesday, 1 November 2017 19:59 (six years ago) link
welcome to the resistance, comrade
― it me, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link
I think correct form is to make fun of them for not being able to make a podcast after a year and a half, not for being a Russian front.
― for the last while (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link
^ I'm a truther in this regard—I think they do whole episodes that are so offensive that they tank them, then blame "technical" issues
― it me, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:27 (six years ago) link
like I guarantee you there's a whole Weinstein episode out there that so flagrantly violates the boundaries of good taste that it was easier to say "the computer ate it" than "we did 70 minutes of off-color rape jokes"
― it me, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link
more likely they discard eps where they're blazed beyond comprehension
― Simon H., Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link
― it me, Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:27 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― it me, Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:29 PM (eighteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes. this definitely happened.
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link
even the chapo boys weren't dumb enough to think they could even touch the sexual assault/harassment awareness moment we're having
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link
they dealt with it in the best way possible considering the gender balance and tenor of their show.
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:31 (six years ago) link
― it me, Wednesday, November 1, 2017 4:29 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Did you hear the statement Amber specifically made about why they decided not to do a Weinstein episode?
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link
like I said, I'm a truther
― it me, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link
Yeah, wtf. There is a definite thing of people openly wanting to disingenuously conflate them with the show their idiot friends/roommate make, and heap no endless amounts of accusations of shit that just _has_ to happen off-mic or under the surface but _never_ on the actual show itself.
― Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:41 (six years ago) link
I don't think they had a "the computer ate it" ep the week of the not-Weinstein episode
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link
Seems pretty likely to me that, in addition to Amber, Will would have been sensible enough to think "probably not a good idea" or at least "how the fuck do we do this?"
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link
Look, these guys are constantly flirting with the boundaries of good taste. Sometimes, they will cross those boundaries. They've had to edit out entire segments before—including a long riff making fun of the victims of the Boston marathon bombing.
Is it so hard to imagine them doing a show that contained a majority of such material?
― it me, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link
Of course, as a Russian stooge sent here to poison the online discourse, that's what I would say
― it me, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link
Going back to this
we're already living it, man― Dan I., Wednesday, November 1, 2017 12:59 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Dan I., Wednesday, November 1, 2017 12:59 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I sincerely want to know; what idea would actual feed an accusation of Russian bot-ness? What motivates an impulse to even consider something like “oh these people are quite rude and hurl japery at establishment figures not currently branded ‘republican’, their mass success can only be the result of evil slavic foreign deviltry?”
― Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link
hey dan what's that "I" stand for anyway........... ........... ..... ... .. . .
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:51 (six years ago) link
I heard if you keep looking around trying to identify the bot, youre the bot!
― for the last while (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:51 (six years ago) link
Where’s that thing Luke Savage posted. It would related to like 4 concurrent ilx threads happening right now, lemme find it...
― Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link
we are now entering the zone
https://ugc.kn3.net/i/origin/http://images.wikia.com/lossimpson/es/images/2/24/3F24.png
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link
we've entered the "imaginary trespasses" phase I see
― Simon H., Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:57 (six years ago) link
Well there’s this:
Everyone who is a critic of American liberalism is an agent of Russia. And them's the facts.— Luke Savage (@LukewSavage) November 1, 2017
― Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link
Well, actually I was disappointed that they didn't do a Weinstein episode. It felt like an abdication of responsibility.
It seems impossible to approach from a comedic angle, but if they can do a Vegas shooting episode three days after the fact, you'd think they'd be able to find the balance to do this.
And if Amber is right—if there's no way for these guys to approach this topic—doesn't that mean the people who criticize the show as misogynistic are correct?
― it me, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 22:10 (six years ago) link
she didn't say there was "no way" for them to discuss it, she said she didn't want to distract from the other voices already discussing it (and, she felt, doing a good job). I don't think that's the same thing.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 1 November 2017 22:14 (six years ago) link
The Russia story seems to be primarily propelled by some people's need for its worst conceivable version to be true— Luke Savage (@LukewSavage) October 9, 2017
Almost whenever there's a major news event, it's become commonplace for "Russia"/"Russian involvement" to be invoked, especially by liberalsThis trend, as far as I can see, started with Trump and has taken increasingly nutty forms, e.g. Its origin in Trump's victory is key to understanding it as a reflex: it's all about externalizing challenges to the liberal orderSo Trump, as quintessentially American as can be, becomes something imposed by a foreign power rather than produced by US culture & politicsThe same thing (see above) can be done with Catalan nationalism, the very antithesis of something foreign to the Spanish body politicI don't want to generalize too much, but it seems like a big part of what's going on here is a refusal by liberal thought to interrogate......the ways in which contemporary liberal institutions are failing for reasons intrinsic to the liberal order If you're invested in that order it's far more comforting to assume it's being attacked from without rather than failing from within
This trend, as far as I can see, started with Trump and has taken increasingly nutty forms, e.g.
Its origin in Trump's victory is key to understanding it as a reflex: it's all about externalizing challenges to the liberal order
So Trump, as quintessentially American as can be, becomes something imposed by a foreign power rather than produced by US culture & politics
The same thing (see above) can be done with Catalan nationalism, the very antithesis of something foreign to the Spanish body politic
I don't want to generalize too much, but it seems like a big part of what's going on here is a refusal by liberal thought to interrogate...
...the ways in which contemporary liberal institutions are failing for reasons intrinsic to the liberal order
If you're invested in that order it's far more comforting to assume it's being attacked from without rather than failing from within
― Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 22:20 (six years ago) link
But this doesn’t follow at all. Being able to address one particular hot topic doesn’t mean that they have the ability/training/experience to handle _every_ hot topic, much less deal with in a proper way on a “comedy podcast”.
― Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 22:45 (six years ago) link
They haven't talked about Wieseltier either—are you telling me this is somehow outside of their area of expertise? Or that they have nothing useful to say? Or that someone else has already shared their perspective?
They're scared.
― it me, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 22:50 (six years ago) link
they clearly refuse to interrogate.
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 22:55 (six years ago) link
massive eyeroll
― Simon H., Wednesday, 1 November 2017 23:02 (six years ago) link
this notion that they have a "responsibility" to cover every major contemporary topic is so silly
Their 'area of expertise' would be in making fun of the tight connection between figurehead Democrats and a serial sexual abuser - when they tried to do that it blew up horribly in their face. A serious take on that has been covered extensively all across the web, so yeah, it would have been pretty pointless?
― louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link
Look, these guys are constantly flirting with the boundaries of good taste.
Violations of good taste: Felix's stupid Jared Fogle jokes (that no one else really joins in on), two Jewish guys doing Holocaust jokes, Matt's Crocs & socks.
― louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 23:06 (six years ago) link