Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

Always interesting the hear where Stern draws the line.

I wouldn't be shocked it Clooney were a shithead. Spielberg, yeah. Tom Hanks, yeah.

No one would surprise me, really. When you start thinking people are too innocent-seeming or above behavior, you start drawing lines.

Clooney's pranking antics are well-known enough that I wouldn't put it past him to not have the best judgment of when to not cross the line

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-me-i-was-17-guest-column-1053466

Nic Cage, be disappointing if he was up to anything as mundane tbh

that's true, cf the responses to the Ratner accusations in the piece from his former assistants...

Drew Carey
Garry Marshall
Denzel Washington
Will Smith
Daniel Dae Kim
John Cho
Aziz Ansari
Chris Pratt
Mike Schur
Wil Arnett
Clive Owen

you can safely assume the more power and wealth someone accumulates, the more likely it is they've felt entitled to doing awful things

Multiple xps: I'm currently reading that recent biography of George Lucas, and whenever Marcia was off editing a film for Marty, Lucas made it absolutely clear he did not trust Scorsese not to try to make a move on her.

BTW, Dustin Hoffman: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-me-i-was-17-guest-column-1053466

like none of the 10 DJP just listed would be at all shocking to me idk xp

Flight of the concords guys

Mike Schur would be shocking primarily from a friend-of-friends perspective

It would not surprise me to learn that any given man who had ever done anything for attention had committed sexual assault.

surely our ruffalo would never

this is turning into a tabloid "who's up next" and it's gross

Also, as these allegations mount and we tally them, it feels like we are starting to be more interested in keeping a tally on a scorecard than we are in helping the people victimized in these situations. I don't know what to do about that feeling.

― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:01 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Tom Cruise is an obvious one. Travolta too. Although they're probably being shielded by Scientology for now.

Clooney is gay, right? That's the only gossip I've heard about him, that all his girlfriends were beards.

let's ask his wife

well obviously she'd lie

so that's how it works

let's ask his wife

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:50 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

& wives/ex-wives of Cruise, Travolta...

anyway sorry getting off topic again

take it to the toxic masculinity thread

pretty sure clooney is not gay although his wife is gorgeous as fuck

also being gay doesn't disqualify you as spacey has proven

the creepy accusations against Cruise (coming from, for instance, my TV fantasy girlfriend Nazanin Boniadi) have been so public for so long with zero ramifications I wonder if anything will ever come of them. granted I guess they aren't assault, they're just creepy.

now's the time if it's ever going to happen. But Cruise, Travolta, + many others are protected by Scientology in addition to their endless NDAs, lawyers, cash reserves, etc.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/top-newsroom-official-at-npr-resigns-amid-harassment-allegations/2017/11/01/d26d682c-bf1e-11e7-8444-a0d4f04b89eb_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-low_npr-1245pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.2af22efb9b2b

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/31/us/dartmouth-professors-sexual-misconduct.html?&moduleDetail=section-news-2&action=click&contentCollection=U.S.®ion=Footer&module=MoreInSection&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=article

that piece re Dustin Hoffman is utterly, believably sad

these 'artists' who allegedly strive for the transcendent and go as low as they can around 'littler' people...

morbs otm

and thinking about being 17 too ... it hurts my heart for her to have to reconcile his behaviour with this setting where she was so excited to just be a part of it

the common thread among all these stories is the sense of celebrity arrogance and the sense that everyone around them is theirs for the taking. sometimes it's a very casual, offhand behavior, and sometimes it's very calculated and predator-like, and sometimes it's this desperate and pathetic use of status to get what they want. sometimes it's two of the three, sometimes all three.

Every secondhand story I've heard about a male celebrity is a variant on the continuum of "that guy is a dog" or "that guy is a groper" or "don't be in a room alone with that guy" - whether they're d-list British celebs or proper famous ones.

...Except for one of the guys mentioned upthread by DJP, who is likewise an acquaintance of an acquaintance and a super low-key nice person.

Has this been posted?

“I am sorry for all the times I stabbed men, just a little, in my previous workplace. After years of counseling, I stopped stabbing men.”

— Kate Harding (@KateHarding) October 28, 2017

http://www.dailywire.com/news/22912/former-grad-student-accuses-neil-de-grasse-tyson-emily-zanotti

I default believe all people coming forward as victims and the burden of proof in public accusation, unlike the law, is credibility and on the accused to prove innocence, not the court system to prove guilt of accused. But that doesn’t mean unclear things won’t surface, and that we as observers won’t have to tentatively be somewhat neutral

http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/warner-bros-severs-ties-brett-ratner-1202604934/

otoh you have Ratner

Hoo boy.

http://www.vulture.com/2017/11/kevin-spacey-alleged-sexual-relationship.html

CW: Danny Masterson is accused of 4 counts of violent rape, involving Scientology cover ups. He's hired Cosby and Ratner's attorneys.

Exclusive: Despite ‘Overwhelming’ Evidence Against Actor Danny Masterson, including 4 victims, Rape Case Has Stalled https://t.co/sMBMPfiXKK

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) November 2, 2017

He's hired Cosby and Ratner's attorneys.

for when you need help appearing even more obviously guilty

(click tweet to see thread with more info)

some of the details in those stories are sickening

That Spacey story is so foul it makes me want to go home and burn any copies I have of any movie he's in.

I have some thoughts on the Spacey story, and the source. Aaaaand they will stay in my head.

I really hate the way my brain processes traumatic events because after reading that guy's story, I sat staring at my screen thinking, "Jesus, what a terrible story. I'm glad he seems to have come out the other side okay-" and then all of a sudden every other thought was crowded out by "Keyser Sose touches kids / Doo-dah, doo-dah" to the tune of "Camptown Races".

that most recent accuser of spacey's sounds like one incredibly fucked up person. I'm not victim blaming but my god.

?
i thought he sounded credible

it takes a lot of work to come out of the other side ok
sometimes people who experience these things at a very young age don't ever realize that they were preyed upon, that it wasn't their fault. at least he has. it's a bitter pill to realize you were preyed upon when you thought you were making a decision.

seems more like a fucked up period than a fucked up person?

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