Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

where did you "hear" that, Lenny Letter?

― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:29 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think we found a time traveler from February 2017.

― louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:30 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao

How dyou you dyou, fyellow dyirtbags?

If your goal is to make no one feel safe self-identifying with left-wing politics for fear of using the wrong moniker you're doing a great fucking job

Dan, what are you anxious about?

we're already living it, man

welcome to the resistance, comrade

I think correct form is to make fun of them for not being able to make a podcast after a year and a half, not for being a Russian front.

^ I'm a truther in this regard—I think they do whole episodes that are so offensive that they tank them, then blame "technical" issues

like I guarantee you there's a whole Weinstein episode out there that so flagrantly violates the boundaries of good taste that it was easier to say "the computer ate it" than "we did 70 minutes of off-color rape jokes"

more likely they discard eps where they're blazed beyond comprehension

^ I'm a truther in this regard—I think they do whole episodes that are so offensive that they tank them, then blame "technical" issues

― it me, Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:27 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

like I guarantee you there's a whole Weinstein episode out there that so flagrantly violates the boundaries of good taste that it was easier to say "the computer ate it" than "we did 70 minutes of off-color rape jokes"

― it me, Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:29 PM (eighteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes. this definitely happened.

even the chapo boys weren't dumb enough to think they could even touch the sexual assault/harassment awareness moment we're having

they dealt with it in the best way possible considering the gender balance and tenor of their show.

like I guarantee you there's a whole Weinstein episode out there that so flagrantly violates the boundaries of good taste that it was easier to say "the computer ate it" than "we did 70 minutes of off-color rape jokes"

― it me, Wednesday, November 1, 2017 4:29 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Did you hear the statement Amber specifically made about why they decided not to do a Weinstein episode?

like I said, I'm a truther

Yeah, wtf. There is a definite thing of people openly wanting to disingenuously conflate them with the show their idiot friends/roommate make, and heap no endless amounts of accusations of shit that just _has_ to happen off-mic or under the surface but _never_ on the actual show itself.

I don't think they had a "the computer ate it" ep the week of the not-Weinstein episode

Seems pretty likely to me that, in addition to Amber, Will would have been sensible enough to think "probably not a good idea" or at least "how the fuck do we do this?"

Look, these guys are constantly flirting with the boundaries of good taste. Sometimes, they will cross those boundaries. They've had to edit out entire segments before—including a long riff making fun of the victims of the Boston marathon bombing.

Is it so hard to imagine them doing a show that contained a majority of such material?

Of course, as a Russian stooge sent here to poison the online discourse, that's what I would say

Going back to this

we're already living it, man

― Dan I., Wednesday, November 1, 2017 12:59 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I sincerely want to know; what idea would actual feed an accusation of Russian bot-ness? What motivates an impulse to even consider something like “oh these people are quite rude and hurl japery at establishment figures not currently branded ‘republican’, their mass success can only be the result of evil slavic foreign deviltry?”

hey dan what's that "I" stand for anyway........... ........... ..... ... .. . .

I heard if you keep looking around trying to identify the bot, youre the bot!

Where’s that thing Luke Savage posted. It would related to like 4 concurrent ilx threads happening right now, lemme find it...

we are now entering the zone

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we've entered the "imaginary trespasses" phase I see

Well there’s this:

Everyone who is a critic of American liberalism is an agent of Russia. And them's the facts.

— Luke Savage (@LukewSavage) November 1, 2017

Well, actually I was disappointed that they didn't do a Weinstein episode. It felt like an abdication of responsibility.

It seems impossible to approach from a comedic angle, but if they can do a Vegas shooting episode three days after the fact, you'd think they'd be able to find the balance to do this.

And if Amber is right—if there's no way for these guys to approach this topic—doesn't that mean the people who criticize the show as misogynistic are correct?

she didn't say there was "no way" for them to discuss it, she said she didn't want to distract from the other voices already discussing it (and, she felt, doing a good job). I don't think that's the same thing.

The Russia story seems to be primarily propelled by some people's need for its worst conceivable version to be true

— Luke Savage (@LukewSavage) October 9, 2017

Almost whenever there's a major news event, it's become commonplace for "Russia"/"Russian involvement" to be invoked, especially by liberals

This trend, as far as I can see, started with Trump and has taken increasingly nutty forms, e.g.

Its origin in Trump's victory is key to understanding it as a reflex: it's all about externalizing challenges to the liberal order

So Trump, as quintessentially American as can be, becomes something imposed by a foreign power rather than produced by US culture & politics

The same thing (see above) can be done with Catalan nationalism, the very antithesis of something foreign to the Spanish body politic

I don't want to generalize too much, but it seems like a big part of what's going on here is a refusal by liberal thought to interrogate...

...the ways in which contemporary liberal institutions are failing for reasons intrinsic to the liberal order

If you're invested in that order it's far more comforting to assume it's being attacked from without rather than failing from within

It seems impossible to approach from a comedic angle, but if they can do a Vegas shooting episode three days after the fact, you'd think they'd be able to find the balance to do this.

And if Amber is right—if there's no way for these guys to approach this topic—doesn't that mean the people who criticize the show as misogynistic are correct?

But this doesn’t follow at all. Being able to address one particular hot topic doesn’t mean that they have the ability/training/experience to handle _every_ hot topic, much less deal with in a proper way on a “comedy podcast”.

They haven't talked about Wieseltier either—are you telling me this is somehow outside of their area of expertise? Or that they have nothing useful to say? Or that someone else has already shared their perspective?

They're scared.

they clearly refuse to interrogate.

massive eyeroll

this notion that they have a "responsibility" to cover every major contemporary topic is so silly

Their 'area of expertise' would be in making fun of the tight connection between figurehead Democrats and a serial sexual abuser - when they tried to do that it blew up horribly in their face. A serious take on that has been covered extensively all across the web, so yeah, it would have been pretty pointless?

Look, these guys are constantly flirting with the boundaries of good taste.

Violations of good taste: Felix's stupid Jared Fogle jokes (that no one else really joins in on), two Jewish guys doing Holocaust jokes, Matt's Crocs & socks.

Ugh, Stalker stans are the worst. Mirror or bust.

nah it's all about Andrei Rublev breh

the sacrifice or gtfo

apparently we've never polled tarkovsky? I'm gonna get on that.

And Tarkovsky was...Russian

oh fuk

TIME FOR SOME GAME THEORY

🤔

Anybody think they’ll be at least some (more that premise) ref to the Strugatsky Bros in the flick adapting Jeff Van der Meer’s book?

Not really gonna waste any more time on the willful obtuseness of two posters I have never seen before today plus Dan I. Catch you boys when the next preemo ep drops. *throws up hang loose sign and skateboards into the sunset*

Chris Hayes longs to be a dirtbag so bad

The crudest Marxist analysis of current American capitalism is much closer to being right than a lot of what passes for conventional wisdom

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) November 2, 2017

i imagine chris agrees with chapo on all the things they actually have opinions on; he just like, also has wonky opinions on policy and stuff

lol dbs didnt invent being left

he's also referenced lefty meme shit a bunch