Let us Anticipate "Call Me By Your Name"

I believe none of you.

I don't even know if you've seen it.

I haven't. And even though Morbs was right about The King of Comedy ... that had Jerry Lewis.

The adjectives everyone's using on this one are a little too creamy.

A milkshake?

uhm... I was virtually destroyed by this and almost left the cinema after the train station scene out of fear that i would start sobbing loudly (rather than just have some wet eyes). I mean i am a cryer but jesus...

i'll write a bit more in time. overwhelmed.

I honestly thought that another incredible gay love story, God's Own Country, wouldn't be surpassed this year but wow.

Has GOC been released outside of the UK?

incredible powerful, that is, it's all too credible.

ly

keep this to yourself, jed_ but

I teared up too

GOC opened in NYC a week ago, I saw it Monday. Solid feature debut, a little bit sentimental at the end and I could've done without the two (?) explicit Brokeback echoes. Hot sexfight in the mud though.

And even though Morbs was right about The King of Comedy ...

Eric, I could kiss you!

https://i.imgur.com/gEeTXcq.gif

And the Dardennes.

But not horror or comedy, so don't get excited.

ILX alone is slowly convincing me the Oscars aren't going NEAR Call Me come January. Think of the hot takes.

be thankful "Harvey" didn't produce it

the rabbit?

https://photos.vanityfair.com/2014/03/17/5327346c74f8a09c34ba3c8e_harvey.gif

Molly Haskell:

https://www.filmcomment.com/article/call-me-by-your-name-review-armie-hammer/

re the two(?) brokeback references in God's Own Country, I couldn't place them but google tells me the first is the Yorkshire guy trying not to watch the Romanian have a cloth-wash in the field. The second is Johnny having a sniff of Gheorghe's left-behind jumper after he's gone. I can't remember the first instance in BM but the second one is a fairly standard cinematic AND HUMAN trope that isn't a trope. have you ever lived if you haven't enhanced the sense of loss of an ex-lover by sniffing a trace of sent on their clothing and possibly all of us here have not washed said piece of clothing for a long time in order to keep that smell? It's a subtle and, imo, beautiful reference to the scene earlier in the film where Gheorge skins the dead lamb and puts it on an orphan lamb to make the ewe look after it. There's also something in there that i can't quite draw-out about Johnny using Gheorghe's name properly and casually rather than saying "Gorgy or summat" as he does earlier on when they first meet.

For what it's worth Francis Lee claims in an interview to have seen Brokeback once when it came out in the theatres and claims that those things are not conscious references. Lee grew up on a farm and still lived on a mobile home on his father's farm as he wrote the script.

I'm still not ready to talk about CMBYN but I'm keen to hear other thoughts on GOC. Morbs is right to called it a solid debut feature and any other relationship to it depends on how much you personally relate to the situation rather than making claims for it's greatness (fwiw I think it is alsmost-great and accept that it may only be great to me). Another reason GOC hit me hard is because the film is also subtly or perhaps accidentally about Brexit, ugh.

It's a subtle and, imo, beautiful reference to the scene earlier in the film where Gheorge skins the dead lamb and puts it on an orphan lamb to make the ewe look after it

this is what makes me think the scene is definitely not a Brokeback reference. It's quite deeply and personally part of the script and of Lee's actual life on the farm.

fair 'nuff

the washing scene is framed p much like the one in Brokeback

doesn't bother me tho, this is a better film!

I was quite amazed that a veteran US critic mistook Nan for mother instead of grandmother.

(maybe we shd discuss this in the "arthouse" thread or something)

https://medium.com/@stevenerickson/why-is-call-me-by-your-name-the-years-most-mainstream-gay-film-b54c8044fbd1

Spoilers there!

endless shots of sunny summertime Tuscan landscapes and the bare torsos of actors Armie Hammer and Timothée Chalamet.

And?

Some good points, but I think hanging James Ivory like an albatross on the film is unfair (my impression is that Guadagnino rewrote the script w/ JI, albeit sans credit). The alleged "timidity" about sex doesn't seem a valid charge either -- Guadagnino didn't show particularly explicit sex in A Bigger Splash, did he? (Maybe I slept through it.)

This Erickson guy was moved by the two concluding scenes that pissed off KJB.

also, Beach Rats is not better

Any gay film in which a man licks the lips of another man is not repressed.

Maybe artistically repressed. (Didn’t read the review yet for spoilers, but I’ve agreed with Erickson frequently in the past RE: gay films.)

Any gay film in which a man licks the lips of another man is not repressed.

Or assertively grabs his package on a bike outing.

When Oliver and Elio’s father argue about whether the word “apricot” really originated in Arabic, one can sense Ivory showing off his erudition. The same effect comes across when Elio jokingly says he just played a piano piece as Liszt performing Bach.

Did it occur to Erickson that both of these scenes might've come from the novel? The two characters are young erudite showoffs.

A-1 Jeffrey Wells dis, though.

Let me point out that James Ivory did not direct this movie, nor could he have.

Bland is an idiotic word to use about this film, It's certainly not that!

re: gay cinema w/arty qualities + James Ivory, is MAURICE any good? i saw a trailer for the recent re-release and visually at least it looked vv intriguing.

No.

The book is crap too, but gays like it if they read it at a formative age.

the film is a bit better than the book. it has rupert graves doing a country bumpkin accent.

Maurice is the only Merchant-Ivory movie I've seen I have any time for. And not necessarily a ton at that.

the film is a bit better than the book. it has rupert graves doing a country bumpkin accent.

― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), W

also: Rupert Graves' ass and flaccid cock

yes, Rupert could climb through my window anytime (at least then)

There are several good Merchant-Ivory movies, just not as many as blue-haired li'l old ladies think (and I include Rex Reed among them).

also: Rupert Graves' ass and flaccid cock

porky pig style iirc

I didn't get far into Aciman's book, CMBYN, I really didn't like the writing and found it po-faced and humorless. Having not read the whole thing I can't say for definite that film>>book, in this case, but Guadagnino seems to have successfully undercut that aspect and made a genuinely funny film. The humour makes the relationship much more moving towards the end. I've already said that I was overwhelmed by this, and I was, and I think the reason it upset me so much was that it made my own life feel so passionless. I can think of maybe three or four times in my life that I've been reduced almost to hysterics by a film. The father's speech near the end is something genuinely new. I would have cheered had I not been trying to hold it together,

The first third is rough going, and I almost gave up. Stick with it.

this was ages ago before the movie was on the cards. i will go back and check it then.

I can't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz7T96k6Isc

btw here's a taste:

https://78.media.tumblr.com/cba41759e9c1486092932094434bf481/tumblr_oxd603LOPV1tjvraqo1_500.gif

hm:

As the production neared its end, Hammer admits, he became peevish and started to withdraw. “For reasons that could be personal to Armie, I had the feeling that he was pulling away,” said Guadagnino. “The movie wasn’t finished, and I had to bring him back.” I asked Hammer what had made him behave like that. “Everybody was sort of lashing out because this thing was ending and nobody wanted it to,” he said. He hesitated, wary of what to reveal. “Honestly,” Hammer said, “I think I had fallen in love with Luca.”

“For me to make a movie, it’s really creating a family,” said Guadagnino. “Having a very profound familial bond with the people I’m doing the movies with, where you literally and constantly fall in love with all of them. Sometimes, this emotional flow can be very intense. Very! As it was with Armie. And then it can be very complicated.”

Hammer had flourished as an actor and as a person under Guadagnino’s guidance and he couldn’t bear to let the project go. Eventually, he would have to, and so would Guadagnino, who was slated to begin his next film, a remake of the horror film Suspiria. Hammer said he became jealous once he felt Guadagnino mentally move on to that film. “I was like, ‘You fucking philanderer! You duplicitous bastard!’ And that made me pull away, and then he did, and it turned into this whole thing.”

“That was not my explanation for it,” said Guadagnino. “I never, never put Suspiria in front of Call Me by Your Name.” Still, he understood Hammer’s passion and reciprocated it. “It’s beautiful when you fall in love with someone and you are restrained in your exploration of that feeling and you sublimate it in making a movie like that,” said Guadagnino, who eventually called Hammer to his apartment to hash out his feelings.

wow first I've heard of this suspiria remake

That's been in the works for what seems like forever.

Last I heard David Gordon Green was doing it, and Thom Yorke was doing the score?

Latter part's still true.

The kindest thing I can say about CALL ME BY YOUR NAME - and perhaps I'm boiling my own hot water here - is that the age difference and notions of consent, were very low on my concerns and priorities list.

Film.

Was.

Insanely.

Sincerely.

Romantic. pic.twitter.com/5OVmQvSeA9

— Blake Goble (@BlakeGoble) November 15, 2017