tHE aEROPLANE fLIES hIGH

any song but that one closing the record is heretical imho, the only convincing show of band unity in their entire catalogue

otm

the few performances of them doing it in ‘96 with everyone singing their parts are really beautiful

also I've never been that wild about "WBFTT," "Bodies," or "In the Arms of Sleep"

what

excuse me

"bodies"???

Whaaaa... How can you not love "In The Arms of Sleep"? One of the best cuts on MCIS!

ITAOS has some of BC's most annoying vox and lyrics, one of the few songs of his I can't get through as an adult

ah that’s like my relationship to “rotten apples”

You make me feel I *suck* at being an adult, because I still love that song ;_;

"Suffer my desire" is one for the ages. It's a motto.

Rotten Apples still rules, too. Despite bad memories attached to that song.

also feel like Galapagos nails a pretty similar vibe but is a way better song and renders it redundant on the first disc

Ok that might have come across weird and gross, I don't suffer desire, but it's def relatable. And I love the flute, whistley sound, that sounds like last breath, ghouls gathering around a death bed.

"Carve out your heart for keeps in an old oak tree"

Slays, both lyrically and in delivery.

"suffer my desire for you" is yeah p much exactly the line and delivery I can't deal with in 2017

i'd like to believe that "rotten apples" rules but billy sings it like dogshit. it's really apparently when sequenced next to "medelia" which is one of my favorite vocals he's ever done

"galapogos" is a perfect song imo

yes, top 10 so songs probably. medelia was the last thing I cut from my sequence tho I could probably swab out tonite reprise

lol *sp *swap

i'd like to believe that "rotten apples" rules but billy sings it like dogshit. it's really apparently when sequenced next to "medelia" which is one of my favorite vocals he's ever done

re: “Suffer my desire” - so much of MCIS is sung from different perspectives and attitudes. The super whiny needy vocal performance fits the super whiny pathetic lyrics. Same can be said for the naive nihilism of Tales of a Scorched Earth (“you’re all whores and I’m a fag” / “I lie just to be real, id die just to feel, why do the same old things keep on happening???????”)

the ludicrous sonics of TOASE wallpaper all other considerations for me, also lol at the Doom sample

the Doom sample is in Where Boys Fear to Tread (recurs several times but first happens right before Billy sings the first line)

These abbreviations are doing my head in, though it's a very, very SP thing. TOASE? :/

oic

oh fuck you're right on the sample

it's funny how the drumming on the destination unknown cover is boring given the two bands' drummers

feeling these the most these days

"Pastichio Medley" (always)
"Mouths of Babes" (massive riff, tune)
"Rotten Apples" (this one just feel right)
"The Last Song" (don't know if i would find it as moving if corgan sr. wasn't playing on it)
"Meladori Magpie" (wonderful tune)
"God" (rawk)
"Marquis in Spades" (rawwwwwwk, great lead guitar)

"mouths of babes" is perfect

I guess this is as good a place as any to announce on ILX that I haven't listened to SP or Billy since July and don't intend to listen to either willfully until, at the very earliest, January 1, 2030.

my opinion about "rotten apples" upthread is wrong

wait flappy i must know why

I became obsessed with The Smashing Pumpkins in January 2010 after 17 years of being a very casual fan. In Billy, and the Pumpkins, I saw everything I wanted to do as a musician and a performer. Literally every detail: the awe-inspiring work ethic, the aesthetics, the mix of humor & power, the frankness and honesty compared to other more coy Gen X artists, the clothes, his playing style, his gestures, his tics. And, obviously, the music and lyrics. It was beyond just being a huge fan, it was a dead end. For years I felt it was impeding me creatively and I think my sudden superfandom in 2010 really derailed my own work. So after nearly a decade of superfandom, where I evangelized and acted as a surrogate defender of maligned artist at his lowest point (does it get any worse than the Teargarden era?).

I'm still regularly inspired by artists I've loved for years, and songs I've heard a million times, but Billy is different. The Pumpkins weren't giving me anything anymore, and they took up space in my brain, so I expelled them for a decade. I feel great.

Fitting for The Aeroplane Flies High thread, because that was the last song I listened to back in July.

Discussion of said band may continue at a moderate pace, Instagram may be accessed, Q&A's may be read.

I felt like I was burning a dead circuit, for years.

is there like a 12-step for that or did you just white-knuckle it

did you guys know that despite all my rage i am still just a rat in a cage?

we know buddy don't beat yourself up

flappy i wanna hear your band

i should probably poll this again without the a-sides.

Flappy just think of all of Billy's appearances on Joe Rogan you can binge in 2030.