'Even allowing for inflation, this thread is not worth 198 Terry Francises' - EPL 2017-18

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Arnautovic was a very poor transfer. They paid way too much and didn't need the extra trouble he brings.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 6 November 2017 11:30 (six years ago) link

how does moyes even get the wh job? like i'd have thought after sunderland his rep is trash.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 6 November 2017 11:36 (six years ago) link

football management is one of the few areas of employment that consistently rewards failure tbf

Number None, Monday, 6 November 2017 11:41 (six years ago) link

He is the actual last man you want in a relegation battle, he'll be going in there on day one and telling the players to prepare for life in the Championship.

Matt DC, Monday, 6 November 2017 11:42 (six years ago) link

far be it from me to suggest that Messrs Gold and Sullivan may not be astute football minds

Pope Urban the Legend (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 November 2017 11:42 (six years ago) link

he's been punditing on BEIN Sports of late. Manages to project an overwhelming air of failure and despair even when sat next to Keys and Gray

Number None, Monday, 6 November 2017 11:46 (six years ago) link

oh I guess Allardyce is getting the Everton job too

Number None, Monday, 6 November 2017 11:49 (six years ago) link

looking forward to his first press conference. can we try to guess some quotes?

"the reality is we're in a relegation battle. there's no guarantee we'll get out of that."

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 6 November 2017 11:50 (six years ago) link

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe"

Pope Urban the Legend (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 November 2017 11:51 (six years ago) link

Haha

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 6 November 2017 11:52 (six years ago) link

I approve this appointment

But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 6 November 2017 11:53 (six years ago) link

"It's all about perspective. Trying to battle relegation isn't as bad as, say, battling cancer. Relegation isn't the end of the world. I'll make sure my players understand this. Fans too."

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 6 November 2017 11:54 (six years ago) link

looking forward to his first press conference.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03147/bornonthefourth_3147942b.jpg

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Monday, 6 November 2017 11:55 (six years ago) link

West Ham hierarchy been shaken by fans response to prospect of David Moyes becoming their next manager but he is still expected to take over

— Jason Burt (@JBurtTelegraph) November 5, 2017

Number None, Monday, 6 November 2017 12:00 (six years ago) link

http://i3.irishmirror.ie/incoming/article3274364.ece/ALTERNATES/s1227b/David-Moyes-1.jpg
'Appy 'ammer.

Tim, Monday, 6 November 2017 12:02 (six years ago) link

admit it, you photoshopped that :D

imago, Monday, 6 November 2017 12:02 (six years ago) link

"the truth is we're going down. all of us are getting relegated each day, in various ways, in our lives, our relationships with others, in how we think of ourselves. we have to face up to it."

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 6 November 2017 12:07 (six years ago) link

"relegation is not an automatic death sentence. many clubs live a full and happy life after relegation."

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 6 November 2017 12:08 (six years ago) link

Two shocking appointments

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 6 November 2017 12:13 (six years ago) link

If Sean Dyche had been called Sam Allardyche he'd have got the job.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 6 November 2017 12:25 (six years ago) link

Rah

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 6 November 2017 12:58 (six years ago) link

Moyes added: “I think we’ve got a good squad. At the moment they should be in a better position than they are, and I believe they will be come the end of the season.

he's lost the run of himself completely.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 10:12 (six years ago) link

mainly joking i can't help but feel touched by the ray of hope

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 10:13 (six years ago) link

West Ham United can confirm the appointment of David Moyes as the Club’s manager. pic.twitter.com/AIOWnHWn27

— West Ham United (@WestHamUtd) November 7, 2017

seems they've appointed his ghost

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 10:15 (six years ago) link

Sullivan told the club website: “I would like to welcome David to West Ham United. This is a unique position for David Gold and myself - it is the first time in almost eight years at West Ham United that we have appointed a new manager during the season.

for a split second I thought this quote was going to end "...who is also called David"

Number None, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 10:16 (six years ago) link

Looks like Scotland's dodged a bullet at least. Though he'll still be Scotland manager at some point in the near future.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 10:30 (six years ago) link

that whu announcement video is hilarious, why the fuck is it so brown and vintage?

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 10:33 (six years ago) link

"Have you been injured at work?" pic.twitter.com/fSX5n626AA

— Ronan Fitzgerald (@rmkf) November 7, 2017

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 10:33 (six years ago) link

Haha. Yessssss. Not gonna lie, I don't know what we did to deserve this, but it feels like xmas morning.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 11:12 (six years ago) link

It's a pity Croatia replaced their manager so recently.

Bilic off to Spain next or what dwe think

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 11:24 (six years ago) link

The world's his oxter.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 11:53 (six years ago) link

West Ham's next six games

Watford (a)
Leicester City (h)
Everton (a)
Manchester City (a)
Chelsea (h)
Arsenal (h)

Number None, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 11:55 (six years ago) link

If he hasn't had a win by the time they get to that Everton game this is gonna be fun. Probably a good time to be playing Watford, terrible time to be playing Leicester.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 13:00 (six years ago) link

they could conceivably lose all six of those

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 13:45 (six years ago) link

He'll lose five and win 1-0 against Arsenal due to a penalty that never should've been giving because of Arnautovic diving: Wenger out, Moyes to lose the six games after that, but "we won at Arsenal, anything's possible".

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 13:48 (six years ago) link

http://www.football365.com/news/david-moyes-the-ridiculous-and-uninspiring-statistics

This is withering stuff:

* David Moyes spent £27.6million on Didier Ndong, Papy Djilobodji, Paddy McNair, Donald Love, Adnan Januzaj, Javier Manquillo, Jason Denayer and Steven Pienaar the last time he was put in charge of a transfer window.

* Two of David Moyes’ three most expensive signings ever are Marouane Fellaini.

* David Moyes has threatened to slap as many female journalists as he has won Premier League games since March 18 (1).

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 13:59 (six years ago) link

In fairness he's threatened to win a few games in that the also without slapping anyone

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link

he hasn't threatened to win a game since about halfway through his Utd tenure

Number None, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

tbf that list of signings mostly shows the absolute desperation of sunderland's transfer dealings/kitty

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link

Also scouting networks etc - the buck for Sunderland's woeful organisation and lack of spirit last year probably stops with Moyes but I get the impression that player recruitment is more complicated than that.

Tim, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link

his recruitment was a shambles at Utd too

chased Fabregas/Bale all summer, then defaulted to Baines/Fellaini and only managed to get in the latter for an inflated price. This from a man who was alleged to have one of the best scouting networks in England when he was at Everton

Number None, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link

Did he take that scouting network with him?

I thought the story was that he gave the Man Utd hierarchy a list of the players he wanted and they failed to get almost all of them? I don't follow prem stuff very closely, mind.

Tim, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link

To what extent have West Ham's scouting/recruitment personnel changed over the last couple of years? They made some great + progressive signings a few years ago with Payet/Antonio/Lanzini etc but their recent acquisitions have been pretty dodgy, signing the likes of Arnatovic, Snodgrass etc without thinking about how they'd fit into the team.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link

Arnautovic.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link

he didn't take the scouting network with him, but you would hope he'd at least be aware of some non-star names on the continent

Bale & Fabregas were patently ungettable, so surely you have back-up targets?

he also decided not to sign Thiago Alcantara

Number None, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

^^ for real on Thiago? I'd rather not have known that, christ.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link

presumably can blame ed woodward or whatever for a bunch of this as well.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link

players that moyes signed at man united:

Guillermo Varela - £2M
Marouane Fellaini - £27.5M
Saidy Janko - £700k
Juan Mata - £37.1M

plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link

they didn't give him anything like the budget lvg or mou have had. not to defend him, he obv did a terrible job.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link


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