Rolling Comic Book thread 2017

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I think my preferred way of enjoying comics is listening to Joe McCulloch talk about something ridiculous and obscure that I couldn't be bothered reading the whole way through. I love listening to him talk about trashy comics. In an ideal world he'd make a good living from talking about pulpy comics he'd dug up.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link

If you're wondering where you can listen to McCulloch, just go to the menu on this video and select episodes. He's just one of four people in the podcasts, but he often dominates.
http://www.factualopinion.com/the_factual_opinion/2017/09/this-week-in-comics-rip.html

I listened to the Eros comics history with Tom Spurgeon, heaven I tell ya! Some funny stories in there.

Never heard of those Carter & Rydyr comics before, that's some of the weirdest shit I've seen in a while.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 22:50 (six years ago) link

Yeah, McCulloch is fucking great. Also enjoy his movie podcast.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 23:14 (six years ago) link

Isn't that Tucker Stone and other guys? I don't remember McCulloch being on the movie podcast much.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 23:34 (six years ago) link

By the way, there are two episodes with Eros in the title. The One I was talking about is Inside The Tent: Memories Of Eros Comix.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 23:36 (six years ago) link

RAG, true! I kinda mash up those Factual Opinion guys in my brain.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 23:39 (six years ago) link

Actually those Carter & Ryder comics are like a way more fucked up version of Blubber by Gilbert Hernandez. It was speculated they're a husband and wife team but I can't find any confirmation.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 November 2017 00:03 (six years ago) link

well i suppose i gotta go find thsoe now.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 9 November 2017 00:17 (six years ago) link

oh that's the TCJ guy daily guy huh? yeah, i'll be listening to that going forward.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 9 November 2017 00:22 (six years ago) link

Surprising how many similar artists are in their anthologies.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 November 2017 00:27 (six years ago) link

Fantagraphics up on Comixology. Should be another sadface about the future of the direct market but I can't sell enough of their books to matter anyway, but I'll happily buy them on my iPad.

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 9 November 2017 02:47 (six years ago) link

"Guy Daily guy"?

It was speculated they're a husband and wife team but I can't find any confirmation.

It was speculated... by whom? SCAR were a couple in the '90s and I doubt that's changed since they're still working together, but obv that's no proof

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Thursday, 9 November 2017 05:06 (six years ago) link

Fantagraphics up on Comixology. Should be another sadface about the future of the direct market

This is the 2017 thread btw

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Thursday, 9 November 2017 05:56 (six years ago) link

just "daily guy" obvs

nbm's new kerascoët-drawn book Satania is tops; everybody who digs body horror, eldritch cthulu mythos and super-detailed "chicken fat" illustration go check it out
http://www.nbmpub.com/comicslit/dontouchme/satanpre1h.html

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link

Jog never wrote daily for TCJ, and stopped writing for them regularly a few months ago so I'm still confused

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link

Maybe thinking of whoever did the TCJ blog? Was that Dirk or Spurgeon?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link

"the guy who wrote the weekly comics i haven't read roundup" is what i meant; jeez you take all the fun out of goofing up on deadline

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:49 (six years ago) link

I totally had no idea what you meant!

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link

i know, i know, my bad

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link

Listening to the Hellboy episode and they said Scott Allie sexually harassed someone.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 November 2017 20:47 (six years ago) link

solitary posts that sum up 2017

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 9 November 2017 21:10 (six years ago) link

yeah i remember that news bit

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 9 November 2017 22:13 (six years ago) link

I don't recall hearing about this in August. RIP.
http://www.heavymetal.com/news/alfonso-azpiri-heavy-metal-artist-1957-2017/

I'm both pleased and annoyed that Richard Corben is doing a sequel to Murky World in Heavy Metal for THREE YEARS!

Pleased because he'll probably be more sustained with his better techniques.

Annoyed because since I can't wait til 2020 for a collected edition, I'll be buying each issue with probably 90% content I'm not interested in. It's never been a cheap magazine.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 November 2017 22:47 (six years ago) link

All I remember about Azpiri is he was yet another Heavy Metal artist who liked doing rape comics, just his style was more cartoony than most

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 10 November 2017 04:56 (six years ago) link

indie cartoonists are among the sexual predators being called out, as of yesterday... one person I've met a few times but never read (Cody Pickrodt) and one person I've never heard of but who I guess is supposed to be pretty talented (Andrew Burkholder). Details of the first guy are in a cooperative Google doc of testimonies (abominable creep) and I'm not sure what the allegations toward the second guy are but his publisher has already dumped him.

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Monday, 13 November 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

no new accusations of brian wood?

Mordy, Monday, 13 November 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link

Frankly I'm surprised bigger names haven't come up. So many of the most prominent indie comix dudes straddle that line of "here's where I exorcise my darkest fantasies" and Louie's shown that being able to be self-reflective about that shit is no guarantee you're not giving in to it in real life. :/

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 13 November 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

Lots of very sordid stuff abt Julius Schwartz all over Facebook right now.

Ward Fowler, Monday, 13 November 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link

yes and Eddie Berganza is finally suffering some consequences at DC about a decade too late

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Monday, 13 November 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link

All I remember about Azpiri is he was yet another Heavy Metal artist who liked doing rape comics, just his style was more cartoony than most

― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 10 November 2017 04:56 (three days ago)

I'm not sure I ever read his work but he was often in issues I bought. I don't remember the original Metal Hurlant crew doing that sort of thing but there is a lot of European artists who do these sexual odysseys with the main character having sex with nearly everyone they meet.

Bought the new Heavy Metal. £9, ouch, my pocket is bleeding! Barely anything interested me in there, including adverts for Motley Crue albums.

Got an issue of Comic Book Creator, a Kaluta & Ramona Fradon issue. Fradon writes studies of Faust in more recent times.

Not a comic but I seen it in the comic shop today and I think a lot of you will like it: Illustrated Dust Jacket 1920-1970.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 13 November 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link

i spent about 200 bucks at Comics Art Brooklyn and I found some winners. will report back.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 13 November 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link

yeah i was p jealous of the stuff ulysses hoovered up at the show. i was trying to make grocery money from book sales so I had to absolutely forbid myself to shop.

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Monday, 13 November 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link

new stuff about Julie Schwartz?

never heard of either Burkholder or Pickrodt but this review shows "being able to be self-reflective about that shit," or something

http://www.tcj.com/reviews/qviet/

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Monday, 13 November 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link

I do want that dust jacket book, yes!

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 05:54 (six years ago) link

yeah that... looks kinda cool!

wonder if the Paul Pope allegations will also come back along with Wood

Nhex, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 06:33 (six years ago) link

new stuff about Julie Schwartz?

Well obviously, rumours and gossip about him have been floating round for years, but in the last couple of days people like Martin Pasko, Heidi Macdonald, Mark Evanier and Steve Bissette, amongst others, have all printed accounts on Facebook of Schwartz's harassing behaviour that go further than anything I've personally seen in print before. So I don't know if it's new, so much as pretty concrete confirmation of things long suspected, or spoken about mostly in private.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 09:53 (six years ago) link

I don't Facebook, but Colleen Doran, Jill Thompson and Jo Duffy all went on record in the Journal in 2004 (Doran had also spoken earlier, and her Cerebus strip was about Schwartz), so it's been more than rumour for a long time

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 10:12 (six years ago) link

OK, missed that Journal issue, and the Cerebus strip. I know Doran has spoken about sexual harassment in the past, didn't know Schwartz was involved, but obviously not surprised.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 10:25 (six years ago) link

This piece is two years old!

http://www.comicsbeat.com/how-a-toxic-history-of-harassment-has-damaged-the-comics-industry/

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 12:32 (six years ago) link

I've seen a bunch of Schwartz stories over several years and even one of his friends try to make it look less bad.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 12:43 (six years ago) link

Steve Bissette's testimony the most interesting in the thread I think, not least for the Joe Orlando detour.

Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 12:52 (six years ago) link

Is it on facebook only?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 12:55 (six years ago) link

That's where I'm reading it. A Marty Pasko post that has a large number of very detailed comments.

Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 13:02 (six years ago) link

Actually, the Vince Colletta stuff is new to me.

Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 14:24 (six years ago) link

Facebook is not usefully googleable, so if the thread is open to the public, a link would be helpful.

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

Here's the Colleen Doran Cerebus short, and linked below that is Sim's intro from the original issue. In which Dave Sim, 31 years ago, warns that editors for the Big Two are sexual predators and aspiring women in comics should not be alone with them. Also that he didn't take it seriously at first, but quickly realised he should believe women's reports.

http://momentofcerebus.blogspot.com/2014/05/colleen-doran-applicant.html

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link


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