Let us Anticipate "Call Me By Your Name"

That's been in the works for what seems like forever.

Last I heard David Gordon Green was doing it, and Thom Yorke was doing the score?

Latter part's still true.

The kindest thing I can say about CALL ME BY YOUR NAME - and perhaps I'm boiling my own hot water here - is that the age difference and notions of consent, were very low on my concerns and priorities list.

Film.

Was.

Insanely.

Sincerely.

Romantic. pic.twitter.com/5OVmQvSeA9

— Blake Goble (@BlakeGoble) November 15, 2017

so he hated it

What's the consent issue exactly? Is it just a function of the age difference?

I'm curious if the age gap would bother anyone if it weren't for the difference in their physiques, the fact that Elio looks boyish next to Armie Hammer.

I missed the one festival screening I could have gone to last weekend and now have to wait until Dec 22. *grumble*

Their sex is legal; it's the climate in which the film is being released that has blown up this discussion.

It's not about the current climate, the physique difference is a deliberate tactic to mess with your preconceptions. Eliot is built like a boy but Armie acts as boyish as Elio who is actually more mature and grounded in some ways, in spite of how he looks. The director deliberately heightens it by casting an actor in his 30s. It raises the stakes and makes the patents' acceptance and the father's speech more surprising (and imo, delightful).

I don't understand that tweet Eric Posted - he starts off about to insult the film then gives it the highest compliment.

fwiw apparently Hammer looks older to some of you guys... he turned 31 in late August, so he was probably just shy of 30 when this was shot. (I wonder if actors ever get away with shaving a few years off in this data-driven age.)

i had read he was early thirties (possibly only in this thread) and i thought he was young looking for that.

Hammer plays 24 but looks 30, and jed_'s right: Elio's poise will upset people who haven't read the book and don't realize that life and art don't commingle.

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goddamn it

opened in NY/LA yesterday

Jonathan Romney: too idyllic

https://www.filmcomment.com/blog/film-week-call-name/

pfft

I don't think I've seen many films that have overwhelmed and seduced me to the extent that this one does. Everything that Romney draws out occurred to me either during or afterward and, while I agree with most of what he objects to, I also don't care. I know that Elio is ridiculously precocious but I don't care. I know that his family is stupidly privileged and don't care. I know that I'm being seduced! I don't care! I love every second of this film!

(although it would be better without the Sufjan songs)

I'm...not getting, once again, that this movie is so timid that it deserves brokebacking.

it doesn't

God's Own Country is the less accomplished movie that I liked better.

Man, though, CMBYN has not one but TWO credit sequences for the ages!

https://www.out.com/armond-white/2017/11/30/call-me-your-names-sex-lives-rich-and-immodest

Even the editors of Out are, ahem, out to get him. "Swimming against the tide, our movie critic would rather watch Porky's than Call Me by Your Name" is not what he's saying here, but whatever.

Armie gave Timothee razor burn

http://people.com/movies/armie-hammer-timothee-chalamet-call-me-by-your-name-kiss/

and Chalamet has won best actor from the NY Film Critics Circle

I can't even

"So assailed are we by reports of harmful pleasures, and of the coercive male will being imposed through lust, that it comes as a relief to be reminded, in such style, of consensual joy." — Anthony Lane, New Yorker

"lmao my dude nutted in an apricot" — Whiney G. Weingarten, ILX

Almodovar likes:

“Everything is beautiful, charming, and desirable in this movie: The boys, the girls, the breakfasts, the fruit, the cigarettes, the reservoirs, the bicycles, the open-air dancing, the 80s, the doubts and the devotion of the protagonists, the sincerity of all the characters, the relationship with their parents,” Almodóvar said. “Behold the commitment of the authors André Aciman, James Ivory, and Luca Guadagino with the passion of the senses, the light of Northern Italy, and especially Timothée Chalament, the great revelation of the year.”

Upon further reflection, this movie's kinda overly precious, no?

Not moreso than teenage boys who play the piano, maybe.

Glenn Kenny thought so, however.

http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2017/11/the-sentimental-journies-of-call-me-by-your-name-and-lady-bird.html

In a sense, then, this is the furthest thing from a “queer movie;” its whole project is to de-queer Elio’s mode of being. That’s the point of the film’s final shot. Yes, he’s heartbroken and crying, but there’s “beautiful” music, he’s literally crouching in front of a fireplace (the hearth!), and behind him his family, while giving him his space, is preparing a sumptuous holiday meal.

Only a straight person would write a passage this addled. I'm never queerer than when my parents give me my space and prepare a sumptuous holiday meal.

This comment otm:

Also, if I'm reading this right you're kind of putting forth a definition of "queer" that excludes a happy relationship between a queer person and their family. I may be getting the terms "queer" and "gay" mixed up but most of the gay people I've known have had loving relationships with their parents, by their accounts. And rather than a dark sign of our reactionary times, couldn't we take a story about a gay teenager who's totally embraced and supported by his family as an attempt to normalize "queerness" and push it into the mainstream? In other words, couldn't we see this as a progressive, rather than reactionary story?

its whole project is de-queering my ass

kenny also references one of the most irritating and terrible pieces i've read all year. the old one-two

yeah i'm not buying that, just cuz these people are well-to-do and spending the summer in Tuscany xp

Not moreso than teenage boys who play the piano, maybe.

This is the lowest you've sunk, Morbs.

hehehe

His folks are queerer than Elio is and I mean that as a compliment.

also, I never describe myself as queer, but gay. the word doesn't offend me but i have some gay friends who would be horrified if anyone referred to them as queer.

His folks are queerer than Elio is and I mean that as a compliment.

― Susan Stranglehands (jed_)

Yes, and to its credit the movie aligns with the book on this matter.

Almodovar likes:

“Everything is beautiful, charming, and desirable in this movie: The boys, the girls, the breakfasts, the fruit

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also, I never describe myself as queer, but gay

Same. This was probably never going to be my new gay classic.

Sufjan Stevens:

They had retained the monologue from the older Elio, and he initially asked me to be the voice of the older Elio; to contribute that voiceover. He also asked if I wanted to appear in the movie as a bard, performing the song, almost as a break in the narrative. I got back to him and I said, “I think this voiceover is a mistake, and I think the interruption of me singing the song is a mistake.” I think he was just thinking out loud. I don’t know if he was really committed to the idea. So I said, “I’ll write you some songs, but that’s all I think you need from me.” And he agreed. When I saw the first edit, he said, “You were right, this doesn’t need a monologue or an interruption.”

https://deadline.com/2017/12/call-me-by-your-name-sufjan-stevens-luca-guadagnino-music-interview-1202225747/

There's a similar point made in the Q&A in this discussion, where Guadagnino says that the Sufjan songs were a way of implying some of the interiority of the novel by incorporating a first-person voice, without resorting to a voiceover. (Also worth watching for the hilariously awkward question at 38:40.)

Saw this last night, very impressive. Can anyone shed light on the seeming callousness of Oliver's phone call at the end? Trying to make sense of this.

well there's no easy way to tell last summer's effbuddy you're gettin hitched

I hated this! So much. It feels thrilling, in a way, to be overwhelmed with such hatred for something! rare for me

yeah I've read your comments, understand them, and don't see what you do.

and Elio's mixed parentage and ancestry complicates the "whiteness."

only saw fgti's (funny) tweets, where did u write about it?

on his FB page

Liked it, but too long. Could've lost 15-20 min. Loved the Psychedelic Furs song. Some wonderful shots: Elio sorrowful at night in the trees as the screen rhythmically flashes in overexposure, pan to the tree when they sleep together, red/gold color-shifted 'dream sequence', looking down on Elio and the girl lying in the grass, final conversation with the father, the snow, all of the town scenes, final shot.

"What'd you do?"

I semi-hated Guadagnino's two preceding films