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Do not at all want to validate deej's persecution complex nor indeed get the thread bogged down even further but that is a supremely bad faith reading of the feminist mom comment (which didn't preface anything, incidentally) - take your point otherwise xp

chief keef *runs and hides*

it may be a less-than-generous reading, but i don't think it's in bad faith. his point seemed to be that our complicity stems in part from not being raised to think about the issues correctly (btw, i had a feminist mom) and not reading enough bell hooks (who btw i have studied). in fairness to deej he did admit that he himself was implicated in this as well, but i don't exactly think it's a mystery why his posts rubbed some the wrong way.

happy to let this die btw sorry

Firing bosses and replacing them with women and maybe the occasional woke guy doesn’t involve civilian hangings or firebombing of courthouses so I still fail to see how a literal revolution is what has to happen.

If you think the issue is simply a matter of who holds the better end of the wildly skewed power imbalances and not the wildly skewed power imbalances *themselves*, sure.

(I don't think anyone would argue against the fact that more female studio heads or US senators whatever would result in a reduction in sexual harassment and assault in those sectors - which is good! - but nothing about how, for example, the courts handle such cases or individuals' lack of power in the workplace to deal with *any* type of abuse by superiors would change.)

Firing bosses and replacing them with women and maybe the occasional woke guy doesn’t involve civilian hangings or firebombing of courthouses

The hitch in this thought is that who will do the firing of the bosses? Because if the answer is "their bosses", then you haven't had your coffee, yet.

Scroll back up to where I asked when the unions are going to take this on the chin. All of the incorporated bodies that are supposed to protect their talent have to answer for this as well, and held accountable by their workers.

chief keef *runs and hides*

Scroll back up to where I asked when the unions are going to take this on the chin. All of the incorporated bodies that are supposed to protect their talent have to answer for this as well, and held accountable by their workers.

Unions only represent about 10% of the US workforce

Nor do they "fire bosses".

well they OUGHTA

1, scroll up, Fisk

2, they definitely used to and still could in those industries that still have unions

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it may be a less-than-generous reading, but i don't think it's in bad faith. his point seemed to be that our complicity stems in part from not being raised to think about the issues correctly (btw, i had a feminist mom) and not reading enough bell hooks (who btw i have studied). in fairness to deej he did admit that he himself was implicated in this as well, but i don't exactly think it's a mystery why his posts rubbed some the wrong way.

happy to let this die btw sorry

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i was making the opposite point you dumb idiot: that having a feminist mom & having read a lot of bell hooks explicitly *does not* let men off the hook

why would i have a persecution complex when this kind of stuff gets intentionally misread every time i post abt a controversial topic?

agree i presented it in an inflammatory way, disagree that this means it was useless, although id rather these things not become referendums on myself sure

anyway the masha gessen piece is good

it's "interesting" that now a leftish former satirist and good-guy politician is in the frame that men need to rethink the volume of their chastisement

Rephrase

just watch your fucking tone, that goes for me too obv

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it's "interesting" that now a leftish former satirist and good-guy politician is in the frame that men need to rethink the volume of their chastisement

its true that after years of enthusiastically decrying the moral corruption of others on ilx the welfare of this politician I've never heard of made me very hastily reverse my feelings on the matter

#notallilx0rs

stop shitting the thread up with your wounded snark you self-exculpatory weasel shite

ilx got good again

i was making the opposite point you dumb idiot

on my phone "ogmor" autocorrects to "pignut" or "ignore" fwiw

i can't remember what i was going to say

Daddy, what's a pignut?

the rats are banding together

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/a-woman-approached-the-post-with-dramatic--and-false--tale-about-roy-moore-sje-appears-to-be-part-of-undercover-sting-operation/2017/11/27/0c2e335a-cfb6-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html?utm_term=.546ba6791be6

A woman who falsely claimed to The Washington Post that Roy Moore, the Republican U.S. Senate candidate in Alabama, impregnated her as a teenager appears to work with an organization that uses deceptive tactics to secretly record conversations in an effort to embarrass its targets.

In a series of interviews over two weeks, the woman shared a dramatic story about an alleged sexual relationship with Moore in 1992 that led to an abortion when she was 15. During the interviews, she repeatedly pressed Post reporters to give their opinions on the effects that her claims could have on Moore’s candidacy if she went public.

The Post did not publish an article based on her unsubstantiated account. When Post reporters confronted her with inconsistencies in her story and an Internet posting that raised doubts about her motivations, she insisted that she was not working with any organization that targets journalists.

But on Monday morning, Post reporters saw her walking into the New York offices of Project Veritas, an organization that targets the mainstream news media and left-leaning groups. The organization sets up undercover “stings” that involve using false cover stories and covert video recordings meant to expose what the group says is media bias.

James O’Keefe, the founder of Project Veritas who was convicted of a misdemeanor in 2010 for using a fake identity to enter a federal building during a previous sting, declined to answer questions about the woman outside the Project Veritas office, a storefront in Mamaroneck, N.Y., on Monday morning shortly after the woman walked inside.

Evil

i'm glad that the post published her off the record comments though. i wonder how much she got paid

probably not a lot since

Alice Crites, a Post researcher who was looking into Phillips’s background, found the document that strongly reinforced the reporters’ suspicions: a Web page for a fundraising campaign by someone with the same name. It was on the website GoFundMe.com under the name Jaime Phillips.

“I’m moving to New York!” the May 29 appeal said. “I’ve accepted a job to work in the conservative media movement to combat the lies and deceipt of the liberal MSM. I’ll be using my skills as a researcher and fact-checker to help our movement. I was laid off from my mortgage job a few months ago and came across the opportunity to change my career path.”

In a March posting on its Facebook page, Project Veritas said it was seeking 12 new “undercover reporters,” though the organization’s operatives use methods that are eschewed by mainstream journalists, such as misrepresenting themselves.

A posting for the “journalist” job on the Project Veritas website that month warned that the job “is not a role for the faint of heart.”

fucking psychos

So much for that career path.

So since they're merely truth-seekers, I assume Project Veritas will make a statement praising the Post's thoroughness and integrity wrt this attempted setup.

well...

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Project Bullshit was taken i gather

forks you should know by now that republicans and other rightish elementals love to cloak their insipid fascism in "freedom" and "truth" verbal drag

"It's opposite day in America"

I would like to know why Harvard hasn't sued O'Keefe yet.

Or, if not them, Veritas Technologies.

because peter thiel is on the other end of that lawsuit

https://www.villagevoice.com/2009/09/22/conservative-facebook-investor-funded-anti-acorn-videographer/

the grand unifying theory of cockitude

i had either never realized or forgotten about that detail but ... fuck!

laid off from my mortgage job

lies and deceipt

show me the deciepts

Disease of conceipt

Any underemployed journos want to go double-agent on these d-bags?

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