Based on a Comic Book: Movies and Television released in 2017 - A Poll and Discussion Thread

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the one funny moment in Wilson is when he goes to the friend's house and the friend asks him to donate blood or something (??) and Wilson is just like "Fuck, no."

flappy bird, Sunday, 26 November 2017 23:02 (six years ago) link

"Walked out of Wonder Woman an hour in, when she had done nothing but run around sidekicking to a blond dude" wow you missed a lot then

"Love Taika Waititi but I had no idea who anyone was or what they cared about so Thor was a big waste on me" had you not seen the previous thor movies?

akm, Sunday, 26 November 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link

Atomic Blonde sucked, so drab & dry & boring. same with Wonder Woman but less so.

flappy bird, Sunday, 26 November 2017 23:41 (six years ago) link

wow you missed a lot then

sounds like this movie was too long

had you not seen the previous thor movies?

no

I'd seen Boy and Shadows and Wilderpeople but I hadn't known that Waititi didn't write the Thor

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Monday, 27 November 2017 04:06 (six years ago) link

I also didn't know there had been a second Thor movie

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Monday, 27 November 2017 04:09 (six years ago) link

I too hate it when the third installment in a series is the first I see and I have no idea what's going on. So annoying. Get it together, Hollywood.

Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Monday, 27 November 2017 04:12 (six years ago) link

3hor: Ragnarok

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Monday, 27 November 2017 04:38 (six years ago) link

I had no trouble following ragnarok and have never seen the prior films

Οὖτις, Monday, 27 November 2017 05:46 (six years ago) link

iZombie is great, didn't know it was based on a comic. Voting for either that or Spider-Man.

MCU movies >>>> MCU TV shows
DC TV shows >>>> DC movies (except for Lego Batman, which was hilarious)

Roz, Monday, 27 November 2017 06:47 (six years ago) link

sic would you say you were.... thorly dithappointed?

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 27 November 2017 06:51 (six years ago) link

I’ve gotten into Gotham against my better judgement. I can’t say it’s good but it is completely nuts and Donal Logue is reliable.

cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 27 November 2017 07:32 (six years ago) link

Most people seem to prefer Logan and Ragnarok, but I'm voting for Spider-Man Homecoming as Spidey's so much more relatable than Wolverine or Thor.

chap, Monday, 27 November 2017 10:13 (six years ago) link

I think I said it on another thread, but it's one of the few superhero films I've seen where I've actually been scared for the protagonist.

chap, Monday, 27 November 2017 10:13 (six years ago) link

yeah spiderman was really good. got overshadowed a bit this year by WW, Logan, and Thor I think; a fairly decent year for superhero movies.

akm, Monday, 27 November 2017 13:50 (six years ago) link

voted legion because it reminded me of the comics i like and not some the ones i don't like

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Monday, 27 November 2017 13:55 (six years ago) link

shoot, i forgot about Legion. i liked that a lot. oh well. i voted for the walking dead so that it would get one vote.

scott seward, Monday, 27 November 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link

Legion season 2 is supposedly coming out in February? will watch.

scott seward, Monday, 27 November 2017 14:18 (six years ago) link

I saw Atomic Blonde and Kingsman 2, but otherwise I'm a grown man and don't care about any of this shit

mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 27 November 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link

And Atomic Blonde suuuuuucked

mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 27 November 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link

saw Kingsman 2

I'm a grown man

does not compute

Simon H., Monday, 27 November 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link

anybody who votes for kingsman is richard spencer and should be flagged.

scott seward, Monday, 27 November 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link

Thanks for stopping in to set the kids straight about the trash they consume, dad Whiney.

Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Monday, 27 November 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link

any time

mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 27 November 2017 15:11 (six years ago) link

even people who don't care about comix might like legion. it's so cool looking. i mostly don't care about comix.

scott seward, Monday, 27 November 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link

Of what I've seen, I really enjoyed:

The Defenders (TV ongoing - Marvel)
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (Film - Marvel)
Legion (TV ongoing - Marvel) (1st half, need to see the 2nd half)
Lego Batman (Film - DC)
Powerless (TV - DC)
Runaways (TV ongoing - Marvel)
Spider Man: Homecoming (Film - Marvel)
Teen Titans Go! (TV Cartoon ongoing - DC)
The Tick (TV ongoing) (this surprised me because I HATED the pilot episode)
Thor: Ragnarok (Film - Marvel)
Wonder Woman (Film-DC)

I am very interested in Logan. The one episode of Iron Fist I saw was super boring and I had no desire to finish it. Also, honorable mention to comic book-adjecent Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, which continues to be bonkers in a way I find 100% appealing.

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Monday, 27 November 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link

how's runaways? that feels like one i'd be willing to try.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 27 November 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link

Oh man, I somehow totally forgot Runaways was out now. Gotta get on that.

Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Monday, 27 November 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link

Legion is great.

akm, Monday, 27 November 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link

I forgot about Legion, it was so so good.

But I voted for Thor, cause that was the most fun I had at the movies all year

voodoo chili, Monday, 27 November 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link

how's runaways? that feels like one i'd be willing to try.

I haven't read the first volume of Runaways which the series is based on, so I can't really speak to how that is translating to the screen as far as comparing the show to the source material. I can say that Nico is a good bit more subdued than I expected her to be, Molly is aged up to be closer in age to the others but still fun, Chase and Karolina are about how I expected them to be, Gert is a complete rock star, and Alex is great so far but I'm not sure how they're going to finish the season given what happens in the comic books and how they've adapted it to the screen so far. One notable change is that they've given a lot more space to the parents in the television show, making them real people as opposed to one-dimensional villains, and the first three episodes are as much about their interactions and jockeying for position as they are about the kids; a couple of them are remarkably sympathetic villains (although that may change in episode 4 based on what I've seen of the trailers).

I say give the first two episodes a shot and, if you like them, watch episode 3 (my favorite so far, mostly because of how it builds upon the first two).

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Monday, 27 November 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

(I should explicitly add that my impressions of the characters given their appearances in Runaways Vol 2 and beyond is informing how I'm reacting to their televised portrayals; it's implicit in what I wrote but not necessarily obvious.)

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Monday, 27 November 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link

how's old lace handled? or have they not got to her yet?
you should read the first volume of runaways! though not till after you've finished s1 of course.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 27 November 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link

I really like what they've done with Old Lace so far.

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Monday, 27 November 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link

Arrow (TV ongoing - DC) - a joyless slugfest, as I said elsewhere an episode this season had a bad guy break into the building where the internet is stored to make it explode by overclocking it. In an entirely po-faced, non-camp way.
The Defenders (TV ongoing - Marvel) - another joyless slugfest, taking the worst parts of DD, JJ and LC and the best parts of IF (because the worst is too hard to imagine) and mashing them into a confusing set of punching.
The Flash (TV ongoing - DC) - much improved this season now it's become dumb monster of the week, and should stay that way. I'm a sucker for the Flash, especially some of the crappier villains, and this series has them in spades.
The Gifted (TV ongoing - Marvel) - truly awful, feels like a reskinning of the Tomorrow People reboot from a couple of years ago only maybe worse. As trope-y as trope can be.
Gotham (TV ongoing - DC) - is teetering on the edge of falling into a bit of a rut. I was hoping the introduction of Professor Pyg was going to buck this, and it did help a lot, but playboy Bruce is just dogshit. Having said that, Grundy is a treat.
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (Film - Marvel) - an advert for itself at feature length. Can't remember much about it other than Ego The Living Planet, pretty sure I enjoyed it but have no desire to see it again to find out. Maybe I should.
Inhumans (TV ongoing - Marvel) - in a world of suck, this was the suckiest. Reading a series precis should be too much for most. A confusing mess that even a giant animated dog couldn't save.
Iron Fist (TV ongoing- Marvel) - talking of dogs, the runt of the Marvel Netflix litter. Boring punchathon with a mopey lead and characters you can't care about.
iZombie (TV ongoing - DC) - this feels like a season too far, or stretching the plot to suit commissioning requirements. The zombie soldiers thing could have played well, and the exclusion zone plot might have worked, but bringing basically all the characters back and the whole alive/dead/cure thing just felt like a reset button getting randomly mashed. When it works (going undercover at the zombie hunters club for example) it's on it, but otherwise not so much.
Legends of Tomorrow (TV ongoing - DC) - the goofy fun younger brother of the Arrowverse, but also the red-headed stepchild. Dumb fun that really doesn't take itself seriously and doesn't want to be, with big stoopid concepts - their communications devices go down because Helen of Troy timetravels to Hollywood and stops Heddy Lamarr becoming famous grab ya?
Legion (TV ongoing - Marvel) - the classiest and best made of all the tv shows. Loved it, and can't wait for series 2.
Logan (Film - Marvel) - saw it on a plane, didn't lose anything imo by not having the big screen. Felt like it was deliberately proving it was MATURE and NOT COMICS REALLY but the meta was too strong for me and I didn't care for the ending.
Lucifer (TV ongoing - DC) - secretly great. An engaging cast, slightly goofy plotting, the right level of camp... simple little detective plots move it along while the arc rumbles in the background. Although is there even one this year? I don't think so.
Outcast (TV ongoing - Image) - series one was great, this one not so much. Fells very much like contractual obligation for twofer commissioning and even Brent Spiner getting beaten up couldn't save it.
Powerless (TV - DC) - I actually didn't mind this. It was a fairly bog standard sitcom but was better than, say, The Big Bang Theory. OK, that was a low blow.
Preacher ( (TV ongoing - DC) - Sort of wading round in its own filth, could go somewhere but sort of doesn't. This series, what with revealing The Grail and Herr Star and all, should have been better than it was but had something definitely lacking. Probably wasn't funny enough?
The Punisher (TV ongoing - Marvel) - the best of all the Netflix series, ep 10 (in the hotel) would be the highlight of many other, more well regarded series and the final episode was a moving exploration of ptsd not matched in recent memory.
Riverdale (TV ongoing - Archie) - another where S2 has gone astray. I've just found myself not really caring about Northside vs Southside when it's got a dark spin on it and isn't about hot dog eating competitions.
Spider-Man: Homecoming (Film - Marvel) - a lot of fun, but felt like a mismatch. Spidey was a little too good/confident because of the super suit, whereas I could have done with more of the first Tobey film learning process.
Supergirl (TV ongoing - DC) - cast is too big and is leaning too heavily on the soap-y parts this season. A whole episode about lesbian daddy issues? Really? Thankfully the Legion of Super-Heroes are coming to save the day.
The Tick (TV ongoing) - enjoyed this a lot but inconsequential stuff. Almost a sequel/update to Mystery Men in tone which was pretty effective.
Thor: Ragnarok (Film - Marvel) - Taika does a tremendous job and the Kirby visuals made this a blast from start to finish.
Wonder Woman (Film-DC) - this was pretty dull, right? Not for me. I want Egg Fu.

Happy! hasn't actually started yet from the voting list so hard to see how anyone could vote for it.

Had missed Runaways starting so will give it a pop especially since all the DC shows are going into Christmas hiatus.
Haven't been to see Justice League yet and haven't heard a case for why it needs to be seen on the big screen. Will use the same logic as I did for GreySuit vs Greysuit: Dusk of Justice and pick it up on dvd for somewhere in the region of $5.
I quite enjoyed the first Kingsman but will wait until I happen across the sequel as I'm not going out of my way to see it.
I managed to miss Wilson the one night I could have seen it. Doesn't sound like I missed much.

Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 10:27 (six years ago) link

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S4 was excellent too, but I think that's not included because it started in 2016?

agreed. me and mk2 loved this, totally bonkers, but very enjoyable.

mark e, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 11:13 (six years ago) link

As a comics nerd, I have no particular interest in any TV/movie adaptations but the MCU stuff won me over because they're (mostly) fun movies, irrespective of source material.

Spider-Man was awesome - it dragged for the last 45 mins but I was happy existing in its sweet little universe, and I'm glad they didn't kill off MK at the end.

I don't enjoy any of the SHEILD/Legion/Berlanti/Netflix stuff. I can see that some of the shows are better than others, but they're all too dull to make an effort with on an extended basis. (I guess I'm in the minority who found Legion to be tedious wank.)

The one show I really dug was S2 of Agent Carter, and that got cancelled so

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 12:05 (six years ago) link

I loved WW and Logan, liked Homecoming and Ragnarok. But I'll give the vote to Legion, which really caught me off guard. I was kinda amazed to see a surreal Shade-type comic onscreen, and loved every second of it. Far, far better than the Netflix shows, which rapidly tumbled down in quality (though I haven't watched Punisher yet).

Duane Barry, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 13:54 (six years ago) link

(I guess I'm in the minority who found Legion to be tedious wank.)

I agree with this, but I am allergic to Noah Hawley's stuff generally

Simon H., Tuesday, 28 November 2017 13:56 (six years ago) link

dang aldo

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link

One day I will have a life.

Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link

Also curious about what they'll do with the character in Runaways that DJP mentioned

(can't go further without spoiling)

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 16:51 (six years ago) link

Supergirl (TV ongoing - DC) - cast is too big and is leaning too heavily on the soap-y parts this season. A whole episode about lesbian daddy issues? Really? Thankfully the Legion of Super-Heroes are coming to save the day.

I haven't gotten to S3 yet but yeah my assumption is that Mon-El will return from the future with LoSH (presumably just after Kara's developed a new romantic interest), a prospect I am def looking forward to

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link

I'm realizing that I have basically no handle on what comics-related media gets the Shakey Seal of Approval vs. that which gets consigned to the Shakey Dumpster of Stupid Garbage.

Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link

I haven't gotten to S3 yet but yeah my assumption is that Mon-El will return from the future with LoSH (presumably just after Kara's developed a new romantic interest), a prospect I am def looking forward to

As close as you get without being completely right.

Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link

Love Taika Waititi

― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Sunday, 26 November 2017 21:28

Did you like the abysmal Eagle Vs Shark? That must have been co-created by Jared Hess, Wes Anderson and Satan in the lowest pit of hell.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link

Poll missed Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. I didn't see it and unfortunately it looks far too slick for me to be interested.
I wouldn't be surprised if Japan had 50 times more comic adaptations than America this year.

Logan taken me by surprise, it was quite stirring at points and seeing an adorable little girl brutally murder adults was thrilling. But somehow I can't say I liked it or recommend it that much.

Legion - Seemed intriguing to start with but I agree that it's tedious.

Lego Batman - Made me laugh once or twice but I didn't like it. Too Robot Chicken geeky.

I'd like to see Atomic Blonde because it has the startling novelty of being a modern American action film with nice cinematography.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 20:10 (six years ago) link

I'm realizing that I have basically no handle on what comics-related media gets the Shakey Seal of Approval vs. that which gets consigned to the Shakey Dumpster of Stupid Garbage.

I contain multitudes

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link

Lego Batman was better in the Lego movie as a supporting character

cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link

that's true, but Lego Batman was still p good

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

"not as good as the Lego Movie" is not really a damning criticism, like.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 20:47 (six years ago) link

this is a thread where we can say these things
also the lego movie was extremely funny, much better than it had any business being

cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link

I didn't like it much. Quite impressive animation at times and occasionally funny but I thought it was underwhelming.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link

Poll missed Jojo's Bizarre Adventure

i thought this was japan only! did it get a western release?
i am at a loss as to how you capture that story in live action. it's a naked lunch size challenge.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link

It had a fair number of screenings across the world. I might actually give it a go but I'm not expecting much.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link

Also, the part of the story it's adapting seems relatively down to earth in Jojo terms.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HojJV3CxqXg

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 21:39 (six years ago) link

That's not from this year, that's an older cartoon.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link

This year's Takashi Miike film, along with Blade Of The Immortal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgcRf-rpyok

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link

ohhhhhh yeah, i forgot that was miike's film; that makes a lot of sense really.
really need to see blade of the immortal, looks like a lot of fun.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link

I might give Blade Of The Immortal a shot but really, it's sad he doesn't seem to have been able to make films like the ones that made him famous.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link

I don't know - you think Blade is really that far removed from Dead or Alive?

Nhex, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 06:49 (six years ago) link

Started Runaways to see what it was like - wasn't feeling it at all after the first ep but the second replaying many of the same events from the other perspective kind of sold me on it. Looks like a minor winner at the moment.

Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 09:51 (six years ago) link

Did you like the abysmal Eagle Vs Shark? That must have been co-created by Jared Hess, Wes Anderson and Satan in the lowest pit of hell.

There is a hint contained in the specific list of films I named as to which Waititi films I made it all the way through

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 10:17 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 31 December 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

Wilson was published by Drawn & Quarterly, scrap the poll and start over

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Sunday, 31 December 2017 07:15 (six years ago) link

gotham's still going?

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 31 December 2017 11:19 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 1 January 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link

Strong Riverdale showing.

Jeff, Monday, 1 January 2018 00:02 (six years ago) link

Haven't watched Legion yet but Spider-Man at the top is correct.

Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 January 2018 00:57 (six years ago) link

I watched The Tick since voting opened (my first non-all-Edlund version), and enjoyed it

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Monday, 1 January 2018 01:07 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

now that The Death of Stalin has been released in the US and Russia and Australia, can a mod delete this thread and start over?

chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Thursday, 19 April 2018 07:29 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

now that I've seen both Mutafukaz and Zombillenium, I insist that this bullshit poll be stricken from the record

kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

four years pass...

this DCU reboot...

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:38 (one year ago) link

we need to try this poll again in 2023, it'll have 500 options

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:42 (one year ago) link

they should make a spider man movie

piedro àlamodevar (wins), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:50 (one year ago) link

whoa whoa whoa, slow down there pal

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:07 (one year ago) link


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