PHOEBE BRIDGERS - what's the deal?

my brother just told me about her. many comparisons to elliott smith, i don't hear it in the guitar playing but definitely the vocals, especially the phrasing, the way they're double/triple tracked, lyrically too. this song is really great, production is fantastic, particularly the sound effects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM1t8H_PE78

on first listen, i was like "whatevs" but then i returned, liked it more, and kept returning.

i think she's good, but that song "motion sickness" is an instant classic, man.

motion sickness is a gem yeah

just listened to Motion Sickness 20 times in a row lol

oh my god... motion sickness...

lol otm

Same as Alpine, keep returning to this. It's eclipsed the long awaited Julien Baker album for me.

i immediately connected with this on the strength of the songwriting and now i'm discovering all the lovely details in the production too. completely agree with all the love for motion sickness

her version of you missed my heart is better than kozelek's original too

I think she is good ... almost in a way that I am suspicious of ... because I like it too much or too easily? (I think this is what people feel about ALVVAYS.)

Actually, more specifically, I slightly distrust the songwriting I have heard: ticking too many generic attitude boxes. Yet what she does, she does very well, I know. And maybe other songs I have not heard would give me a different view.

She sounds a bit uncannily like Kathleen Edwards - whom I have long admired a lot.

funny that you mention Edwards because to me it's the new Waxahatchee that sounds just like her.

Anna Tivel has some Kathleen Edwards in her, too. maybe she is a bigger influence on young songwriters than anyone realized. (which would be a good thing.)

Edwards is terrific! (In her own generic way, familiar yet with intelligent and crafted twists.)

I heard a bit of this on the NYT Popcast (a bit from Funeral) when they were doing their end of year thing and was really struck by it by but didn't go back to it until I heard her name come up today. It's not subtle or oblique enough for the Elliott Smith comparisons but there's definitely a huge gut punch factor in it, and the ambient/production touches going on are so great.

only elliott smith thing that stuck out like a sore thumb was the second line in 'scott street': "open heart, open container." the song doesn't sound that much like 'st. ides heaven,' but the instrumentation + the melodic sensibility really highlights it. other than that I don't hear it.

heard "motion sickness" for the first time recently and it really struck me. that first verse is just one of those verses, enough odd little details and turns of phrase to catch me off guard a bit. her vocals are lovely and the touches in the production especially as it swells just so toward the end are really haunting and great.

haven't spent much time with the album yet but i enjoyed it and am looking forward to living with it a bit.

it's so fuckin' good, man

one thing about Motion Sickness ... album version is one of the songs of 2017 for me ... but if you go looking for some of the sessions she has played (like Paste, Tiny Desk ... something else, can't remember) she plays it a little slower, and she tends to slow it down even more on the bridge, and then she emphasizes the slight rhythmic and melodic change in the "I have emotional motion" line after the bridge ... and it's awesome.

well, here's the TIny Desk version, which has piano and vocal harmony with it, unlike, say, the Paste one:

https://youtu.be/-hLJNZSIwP8?t=3m34s

gives me chills, man

oh my god

https://youtu.be/H37WARFESUE

oh my god... motion sickness...

― flappy bird, Wednesday, December 6, 2017 1:48 AM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

pretty much here now.

everyone who hears it gets there eventually.

Weirdly disappointed to learn that the boyfriend who shells out for expensive hypnotherapy, sings in an English accent and was in a band when PB was born is (supposedly) Ryan Adams.

Motion sickness, damn

i saw her live recently. it was a really good show!

i heard "smoke signals" on the radio and it was v good, gave some julien baker vibes. other songs havent really clicked for me immediately

mordy and i both have this as one of our top albums of the year, if not the album of the year

just wanted to give it some more publicity before people vote on their year end things

this album, or boygenius?

alright i am hearing reports that this came out last year

lol

i learned about it this year at the same time as boygenius. the boygenius one is a favorite of mine as well.

Treeship what do you think of the new Girlpool

this was one of the best albums of last year, glad that she's getting more exposure from all the boygenius excitement

agreed ^

moreso than I did a year ago, I think Stranger In The Alps is a legit long-haul classic

and by that i just mean it still sounds so good and feels like it's getting better, even after what must be, idk, 60+ listens?

I also missed out on this last year and probably would've put it at the top of my list this year if I could. Love boygenius and their whole coming together but this album is.. some album.

i only heard it right at the end of last year when going through my backlog for eoy season but it instantly went to near the top of my list, an immediate classic to me. so many delightful moments - the "falling" bass on "smoke signals", the way the bridge goes into the final chorus on "motion sickness", that synth choir line near the end of "scott street", when the guitar comes in a minute into "georgia"

thinking about it now it's fairly similar in feeling to this year's kacey musgraves album - singer-songwriter with gorgeous arrangements and lots of beautiful ambience filling up the space

just to clarify what i was saying: i loved it a year ago, too. put it in the second half of my top 10, i believe.

but you know how a year or two or five later, some of the records in your top 10 kinda fade away and you don't reach for them as much, while a few come into focus as the ones you keep returning to? Alps is one of those for me, at least right now.

so is last year's Manchester Orchestra album.

I like Phoebe Bridgers a lot and really hate the Julien Baker I've heard which makes the Boygenius album effectively useless for me.

Hating Julien Baker seems.. cruel. But there are several Boygenius tracks that don't sound like Baker tracks.

Funeral kills me every time. It never doesn't make me tear up a little.

Yeah. She is just remarkably talented as a songwriter.

I like Phoebe Bridgers a lot and really hate the Julien Baker I've heard which makes the Boygenius album effectively useless for me.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, December 4, 2018 3:27 AM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

phoebe's presence in the boygenius stuff is wayyy heavier than julien's imo, outside of "stay down" there isn't really a typical julien baker moment on the ep

imo "motion sickness" is a perfect song, rest of stranger in the alps is pretty good

I also missed out on this last year and probably would've put it at the top of my list this year if I could. Love boygenius and their whole coming together but this album is.. some album.

year of impact rule means i get to vote for this

https://pitchfork.com/news/phoebe-bridgers-covers-the-cures-friday-im-in-love-listen/

Weirdly disappointed to learn that the boyfriend who shells out for expensive hypnotherapy, sings in an English accent and was in a band when PB was born is (supposedly) Ryan Adams.

― in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, March 6, 2018 2:04 AM (ten months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I just heard this song for the first time and I fucking hate the shit out of Ryan Adams, this is just amazing songwriting....

some of these lines are ice cold, damn love it:

And why do you sing with an English accent
I guess it's too late to change it now

You said when you met me you were bored
And you, you were in a band when I was born

this is my album of the year even tho it came out in 2017 and consequently i will not be voting for it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ryan is great, but yes, that last line in particular is an all-time great dig xp

knowing that song is about ryan adams makes it 1) funnier, then 2) more upsetting

album is much better than i gave it credit for upthread but i've also been depressed

Oh, I know. It's just how it's listed in his response to the accusations.

Nelson alleges Bannon “published false, defamatory, and misleading statements about (him) stating, among other things, that (Nelson) is a career criminal, murdered a man, commits racially-motivated hate crimes, abuses women, stole hundreds of thousands of dollars, trafficked in stolen or fake goods, committed cybercrimes, and defrauded numerous people.”

Especially possibly racially-motivated murder.

NGL— this might be bad faith and spurious on his part, but I'm also not really buying "was a SoCal Klansman who committed sexual cybercrimes" accusations either.

I've only seen the (weird) Pitchfork story, but I don't know why they would lead with the accusation of murder. As mentioned above, it seems to have been made in a now-deleted Instagram account, and the guy himself raised it in a defamation suit last December. I don't know why that and the other old suit even newsworthy (or even his suit against Bridgers, tbh).

My take on the Pfork piece is they did this dude a weird solid by airing out claims he's been making in various lawsuits. No one knows this guy, who gaf?

yeah, this feels like fallout from a failed effort to extort phoebe bridgers

Lots of victim blaming going on in here, shameful

(that was a joke)

She has a fine new song on Bandcamp: https://phoebebridgers.bandcamp.com/track/that-funny-feeling-2

you mean... Bo Burnham cover

ugh I just got less interested in hearing this

more like Gerald Boing Boing

got tix to see her in June

yeah, great show but she had to stop the show like 5 times for medical emergencies bc people kept on passing out from dehydration (apparently)

also, people were lining up since 5pm the day before so when the doors opened, they all ran to the front and several people were trampled

somewhere along the line i joined the Phoebe subreddit and i swear everyone in there is super young and seeing her for their first-ever concert. they are all asking each other about when they should get in line, how early do they need to get there to be in the front row, where the merch stands are, how much money do they need to buy all the merch, etc.

it should be cute but it's actually annoying. this may be because i am a 46-year-old member of the Phoebe Bridgers subreddit.

because i am a 46-year-old member of the Phoebe Bridgers subreddit.

^^New Borad Description?

no boygenius thread I gather but FULL ALBUM coming

https://i.imgur.com/wi9bIVF.png

Every time I see this thread title my mind posits a very lame non-existent Seinfeld but

Bit

I like how this thread title evokes a Seinfeld-ish stand-up bit...

“First there was Courtney Barnett... she was pretty good! Like if Sheryl Crow had a few Nirvana CDs and a reliable weed connection! Then there was Soccer Mommy... when I first heard her, I thought Liz Phair was trying to sneak back into the industry under an assumed name! And now this Phoebe lady... what’s the deal??”

― it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Sunday, November 15, 2020 7:00 PM (two years ago)

There appears to be a song on this record titled "Leonard Cohen"

Bring it on, the EP is glorious, and each one of them has gotten better since then. Phoebe is opening for Taylor Swift, right? She's gonna get a lot of new fans this year.

it should be cute but it's actually annoying. this may be because i am a 46-year-old member of the Phoebe Bridgers subreddit.

this reminds me of a friend of mine telling me he got annoyed at the boygenius show he went to because there were so many young people and I was like "dude, I too wound up being a 50 year old greyhair at a phoebe bridgers concert and that is just something you have to accept"

Phoebe is opening for Taylor Swift, right?

That has got to be either the best or the worst opening slot in the world.

she'll do great but if you were annoyed by her fans now, just wait until she picks up more swifties

I wish her luck convincing those people that she is more than the only thing standing between them and Taylor.

man, I think they took it down, but there was a boygenius pitchfork live set from brooklyn on youtube for a few years that I watched about a thousand times, the version of Me and My Dog in it is one of my favorite live performances ever I think.

Interscope, huh? I guess they outgrew Matador. I wonder if Julien and Lucy are still there as solo artists.

(Old Matador BBS interests die hard.)

the pitchfork live session is def now gone from youtube, I wonder if that's because of the band changing labels or something...or maybe they're going to release that session in some other way. I hope it comes back, it's something else. there are a few audience shot videos of the same show but they're not as good obviously

phoebe's set that preceeded theirs does appear to still be online though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLYlYwoqeFI

Genuinely excited for the album. The EP is magnificent.

Yep, love the EP and optimistic that they’ll all bring good material for the album.

Heard her on a Sirius XM radio show playing lots of melancholy rock ballads by Big Star and others and she was enthusing about Alex Chilton from Box Tops days to Big Star and solo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJFaEfwu6J8

they sound fucking amazing together, once again

Three tracks (including the above) on Spotify. All lovely but True Blue stands out as a Dacus masterclass.

I like them all, "$20" best because I always like when Baker rocks out a little. Hope there's at least a bit more of that on the album.

I think there should be a boygenius thread, really. Any objections?

make it

boygenius: Baker Bridgers Dacus LLC

I absolutely love Phoebe Bridgers, but even as a huge Phoebe Bridgers fan, I would be very good with seeing about 65% fewer "artist X releases a new single featuring Phoebe Bridgers" headlines every month. Seems like they are hitting every few days right now.

🤑

Phoeturing Phoebe.

The National one is fucking ridiculous: 'contains tincture of Bridgers'.

What prompted this was realizing that today's Pitchfork headline about a new song with Rob Moose was indeed not the same headline as the one from two days ago about a new song with Arlo Parks.

clearly a Bridgers too far

It won't last, you're only the new cool kid for a while, but she seems like she's having fun.

Also she obviously loves collaborating.

"Rob Moose" is killing me for some reason what a hilarious name

Mortal enemy of

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71EytrCqVML.jpg

In the photo accompanying the pfork article, HE seems to be the one wearing her trademark "skeleton costume" garb... unexpected switcheroo!

Lol every Pitchfoyk article about this Rob Moose guy has Bridgers’ name in the headline