Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

xps just wanna say bout damn time on Danny Masterson, his shit's been reported on for years

I Am Curious (Tootsie)!

also I chuckled reading about Oliver's "I'm glad"

John Oliver should be fucking guillotined

― sleepingbag, Tuesday, December 5, 2017 10:48 AM (thirty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is this an overall statement, or just about the exchange in particular...?

John Oliver is basically exhibit A in the smug liberal social media bubble that got Trump elected, don't @ me

people love to say that shit but if the argument here is that criticizing Trump got him elected then idk where to start

wonder if this story from yesterday kinda spurred on the firing:

One of actor Danny Masterson’s alleged sexual assault victims says a Netflix executive told her this weekend that higher-ups at the company don’t believe the four women who have accused Masterson of rape.

Netflix confirmed in a statement that Andy Yeatman, its director of global kids content, made those “careless” and “uninformed” comments, but noted that he was not initially aware that the woman he was speaking to had accused Masterson of rape.

Yeatman spoke with the woman, whom HuffPost is referring to as Victim B, on the sidelines of a kids’ soccer game in Los Angeles. Yeatman is the head coach of a soccer team for 8- and 9-year-old girls. Victim B’s husband is the head coach of the team that played against Yeatman’s on Sunday. Their respective daughters play on the teams that their fathers coach.

When Victim B approached Yeatman and asked him if he worked at Netflix, she says he answered in the affirmative.

Victim B said she asked Yeatman why Netflix was not taking action against Masterson in light of the district attorney’s investigation and the multiple accusations of rape. According to Victim B and another witness, Yeatman said Netflix takes sexual misconduct allegations seriously but that “we don’t believe them,” referring to Masterson’s four accusers.

Victim B told HuffPost she never expected Yeatman to say such a thing and was left stunned. She said she then told him, “I’m one of them,” indicating she was one of Masterson’s accusers.

The conversation ended quickly.

Victim B said Yeatman approached her at the game about an hour later, ostensibly to clear the air, and told her that he’d had no idea she was one of Masterson’s alleged victims.

Victim B told HuffPost that she began to cry and told Yeatman, “I hope no one ever says that to your daughter.”

Yeatman then told her that he can’t decide whether Netflix takes action against Masterson.

Victim B told Yeatman that she and the other women accusing Masterson of rape were telling the truth and that “Netflix is going to regret this, this is a mistake, they’re going to see.”

Victim B said, and the witness confirmed, that Yeatman said, in what they described as a condescending tone, “we’ll see.”

A Netflix spokesman denied that Yeatman said “we’ll see.”

But the company confirmed in a statement that Yeatman told Victim B that Netflix executives didn’t believe the four women accusing Masterson of rape.

“While he was coaching a youth soccer match today, Mr. Yeatman ― a Netflix kids’ programming executive ― was approached by a stranger who did not identify herself or explain her connection to Danny Masterson,” the statement read. “Mr. Yeatman’s comments were careless, uninformed and do not represent the views of the company. Further, he would have no insights into decision making on The Ranch. We are aware of the allegations against Danny Masterson and we are following the current investigation, and will respond if developments occur.”

John Oliver is basically exhibit A in the smug liberal social media bubble that got Trump elected, don't @ me

― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten),

http://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/tootsie.jpg

people love to say that shit but if the argument here is

got him elected then idk where to start

― frogbs, Tuesday, December 5, 2017 11:33 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No, pissing off liberal straw(wo)men and ‘how dare a black man be president of me’ were in a dead heat of responsibility for this shitshow. Blaming individual liberals is a fool’s errand.

I don't think that being the excuse people use to weaponize their racism/sexism absolves people of said racism/sexism or presupposes that said racism/sexism wouldn't have been expressed anyway.

yes it was "Drumpf" that inspired all those people to pull the lever for the man promising to do away with immigrants

Polling suggests Oliver's glasses swung 10,000 votes in Michigan alone

imagine if Hillary had had Dorothy Michaels as a campaign manager!

Although it is very true that the majority of woke white guys I know are casting around desperately for scapegoats they can hold up so they don't have to cosign the argument "maybe a lot of white people in this country are racist/sexist to the point where it is worth it to harm themselves if they can take down their perceived enemies with them"

I disagree with frogbs, but derailing this thread is nagl, so let's get back on thread

I don't think there are any other threads to talk about Hillary on this board tho

"Sure there's a lot of racism/sexism in this country but maybe someone did something so snarky that the only reasonable response for some people was to close the borders and give all our money to the wealthy; have you considered that?"

believe it or not Whiney many people in America care about more than pop culture bullshit that makes them irrationally angry

I'm not going to argue anymore about this on this thread, so meet me somewhere else or save your breath

if only Oliver did a long sit down in which he tried to humanize and *understand* the "build the wall" crowd like every other news outlet did

DJP bringing major OTMness here

Hoffman pulled his regular old "BUT I WAS IN TOOTSIE!" card. I will defer to Teri Garr's brilliant AV Club interview regarding that. https://t.co/KyM9ZmqFKr pic.twitter.com/IsJbQSxCMX

— Tyler Coates (@tylercoates) December 5, 2017

at least in Tootsie the joke's on the Hoffman character. NO surprise that Hoffman's this self-absorbed in real life.

That Teri Garr interview is great

DJP otm, Whiney has the weirdest priorities

It's nice to fantasize about the thing that annoys you the most being proportionately responsible for everything wrong with the world. Sometimes when someone rudely cuts me off in traffic I want their entire family to disown them in that moment.

I disagree with frogbs, but derailing this thread is nagl, so let's get back on thread

― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, December 5, 2017 11:41 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm not going to argue anymore about this on this thread, so meet me somewhere else or save your breath

― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, December 5, 2017 11:43 AM (thirty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"last word!" - Whiney

the Democrats shitting on their constituents for 40 years = total nonfactor as always

BACK TO TOPIC

I'd say that counts as assault

I really didn't know anything about Dustin Hoffman other than he was a good actor; all of this is... "disappointing" isn't the right word but I don't have a better one. Like, he wasn't a role model I aspired to but he was an innocuous-seeming guy who gave a bunch of performances I've enjoyed and, while I have no reason to assume that generic people are generally good given the absence of any other information, I don't remember hearing or reading any stories about him being "difficult" which I translated internally to "this isn't someone who is going to go on record as being an ass about things".

The idea that walking around dressed as Tootsie gave him insight into what it was like to be a woman is the most ridiculous, shallow thing.

Hoffman was another case where the stuff was already out there: that old Meryl Streep interview where she describes him groping her as they met for the first time

Not disputing that the info was there, just saying that I didn't remember seeing it.

tbh Dustin Hoffman isn't an actor I think about all that much

he's great in a bunch of movies *and* the stories I've read about him (cf Kramer vs. Kramer) have generally painted a picture of an asshole. Not unusual.

I don't remember hearing or reading any stories about him being "difficult"

He's had the reputation for being EXTREMELY difficult for years! William Goldman's Adventures in the Screen Trade has a number of anecdotes about Hoffman that make him out to be a total jerk to work with, and Tootsie was apparently the nightmare shoot to end all nightmare shoots because of his bad behaviour on set.

had the same impression with Spacey - kinda disappointed but not that surprised

what I like about the Oliver/Hoffman exchange is really just that it ~happened~. I am not certain how successful it was but people at Hoffman’s level of will never talk openly about this if they are prepped beforehand.

Again, I dunno that it achieved much especially in that setting but I like the attempt

the Spacey thing was weird to me, because I'd heard the rumors for so many years and there were so many of them that I figured they had to be true. like every "share your celebrity encounter" article/thread always seemed to have one predatory anecdote about Kevin Spacey

xp yeah i love that Oliver did that, even if he bugs me, i dont give a fuck, what he did absolutely rules
i had no idea about Hoffman's reputation as difficult, his comments are pretty stupid & insane especially re: Tootsie

I dunno. Sure there's racism aplenty and more than enough to occupy us for uncounted decades ahead. But can you just let the groped women have their moment? kthxbye.

Wow, Aimless, the point flew so far over your head it veered into outer space

IOW that is a shitty oblivious asshole thing for you to say

Tootsie is in part about Hoffman the actor's insufferability on set

yes, he inspired his own character

Tootsie is also a majorly bad film - fewer jokes than you remember, and too much shouting

I will take this scene forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnHqiipcw6g

(But it's the only thing I've watched from it in years and years.)

from Dec '82 on, has never seemed like any kind of masterpiece to me. Good and shallow comedy.

yeah it's fun but Morbz is correct

Anyway, fuck Hoffman, yay Oliver, etc.

Anyway, more on the National Enquirer/Us Weekly bro

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/national-enquirer-dylan-howard-sexual-misconduct-allegations_us_5a2704b5e4b06007f6b57303

Former employees of American Media Inc., which owns seven tabloids, told the AP that the company’s chief content officer, Dylan Howard, openly discussed his sex life, talked about female employees’ sex lives and forced women to watch or listen to pornographic material.

Howard left the company in 2012 after it launched an investigation into his behavior. He was later rehired with a promotion and worked out of the company’s New York office.