Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

yes, he inspired his own character

Tootsie is also a majorly bad film - fewer jokes than you remember, and too much shouting

I will take this scene forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnHqiipcw6g

(But it's the only thing I've watched from it in years and years.)

from Dec '82 on, has never seemed like any kind of masterpiece to me. Good and shallow comedy.

yeah it's fun but Morbz is correct

Anyway, fuck Hoffman, yay Oliver, etc.

Anyway, more on the National Enquirer/Us Weekly bro

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/national-enquirer-dylan-howard-sexual-misconduct-allegations_us_5a2704b5e4b06007f6b57303

Former employees of American Media Inc., which owns seven tabloids, told the AP that the company’s chief content officer, Dylan Howard, openly discussed his sex life, talked about female employees’ sex lives and forced women to watch or listen to pornographic material.

Howard left the company in 2012 after it launched an investigation into his behavior. He was later rehired with a promotion and worked out of the company’s New York office.

Tootsie is also a majorly bad film - fewer jokes than you remember, and too much shouting

― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, December 5, 2017 4:53 PM

this is the rongest thing I've ever read on ILE.

from Dec '82 on, has never seemed like any kind of masterpiece to me. Good and shallow comedy.

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius)

yes, a shallow masterpiece

Guess who’s Dustin Hoffman’s agent?

My assailant @WME ‘s Adam Venit.

If I wrote this in a movie you’d call it ridiculous.

ABUSERS PROTECT ABUSERS https://t.co/pBid0CInoe

— terrycrews (@terrycrews) December 5, 2017

(There is a tendency in this culture for people to far overpraise white men when they happen to make public their stumbling onto a non-troglodytic opinion—because white men are still, after all this bullshit, the "standard," and so I guess is the assumption of their bad opinions. The "John Oliver is a gold standard feminist" huzzah-ing in the wake of last nigh is ABSOLUTELY an incidence of that.)

*night

That is definitely the most frustrating part of all of this, going right back to what Hannibal Buress did. Oh, the men are speaking out so now you're all listening? OK then.

the opinion of 1 man > countless women howling into the void :(

yep

that one woman who talked to the netflix guy at the youth soccer game is the exception that proves the rule

I assumed the entirety of praise was because he confronted someone accused in such a public setting

that stuff on The Graduate DVD came out years ago and no one said boo

here’s a useful thread on this subtopic for those confused about the eye rolling

lmao a few years ago john oliver didn’t know why it was fucked up that there were no women at the daily show stop praising men for doing the bare minimum male feminism is a sham thank you for playing https://t.co/Q5f2D7cddi https://t.co/eWaFiKqxSS

— Aminatou Sow (@aminatou) December 5, 2017

huh was Samantha Bee out of town for that event or something

not that it matters but i think kristin schall performed at that show

tbh calling John Oliver a "gold standard" anything is really asking for it.

idk how many women worked on the Daily Show but I know it isn't zero. Whether or not there is/was adequate representation on-staff I don't really know.

Sounds like the '08 roast of Matt Lauer got pretty weird:

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/12/05/media-elite-laughed-at-2008-roast-sending-matt-lauer-s-pervy-behavior.amp.html

Daily show was created by lizz winstead wasn’t it

Xp

we're linking to Fox News now?

xp

Didn't know that was verboten

The original Tony Ortega Voice piece they link to has a lot of it, but there's more details in this one. In sum: it's a roast but even for a roast it's a really fucking gross roast, the more so in obvious retrospect.

xxp all the quotes in the Fox News article are sourced from a Village Voice writeup of the roast in 2008. yes, despite the url its not fayyke nyews

I think Lizz Winstead (who yes, created the show) left partly because Craig Kilborn was such a fucking fratty douche.

"She quit in 1998 shortly after Kilborn told Esquire magazine, “To be honest, Lizz does find me very attractive. If I wanted her to blow me, she would.”:

that aminitow sow's twitter feed is exactly why I try to never go on twitter

The NYT crew that broke the original Weinstein story has a massive new one up

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/05/us/harvey-weinstein-complicity.html

Suffice to say Bob Weinstein, among many others, are about to be fully shredded.

2 months tomorrow since the first story ran

Kinda want to take back some shit I said about the NYT but don’t want to give K3v the satisfaction. Aaaaarrrrgh.

Ugh the new NYT piece just puts me right back in the same place as those first stories. His actions are abject & terrifying... but the network he’s created to enable it is just as frightening.

And I dont mean frightening that it exists. I took that as a given. I mean frightening to think about drawb in by that network, being assaulted, and then smothered by that network. Being pursued. Being paid off. Being pushed into the dirty laundry cart & sent down the chute with such efficiency that you are only realizing on the way down that you are not just one. You are one of many. Hundreds. And there is a PROCEDURE for handling you and your damaged life.

Thinking about what that feels like makes me feel so afraid and angry and hurt.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-am-a-victim-of-sexual-harassment-and-i-want-you-to-question-my-story/2017/12/05/e4bc780a-d626-11e7-a986-d0a9770d9a3e_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.2bd3d4ac2247

said like a true academic

fucking usc of course

person of the year!!!!1111

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2017/12/06/poy-2017-cover_vert-f1543ad0e414ef2a31d9b0e95c3d100a62eeee91-s900-c85.jpg

in what way was Taylor a silence breaker? I thought she'd been dissing exes in her songs for years.

I have uh mixed feelings about her being on there (vs dozens of others who had a lot more to lose).

uh do you not remember the trial from earlier this year

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/jury-sides-with-taylor-swift-in-groping-trial-w497780

alternately you could you know. click the link

sure other people had more to lose and one could say that focusing on celebrities and the rich and those in the culture industry, as much of the press has done, only results in a fraction of the problem being examined. but her trial shone a light on a toxic culture in radio, one that absolutely gets beamed out to listeners and helps put america in an ever more retrogressive place

like the manboyism of radio is something that isn’t discussed much because it’s “what the market wants.” which should make it an even more crucial topic of inquiry

I knew about the trial. It's just a little odd to see her sharing space with women who had to act out against people with markedly more power than they had. But yes, there are certainly worse topics to make a calculated appeal to a broader audience like this with.

ah i missed the trial.

we had our 'own' Dutch case of radio manboyism this week (http://metro.co.uk/2017/12/05/dutch-radio-station-apologises-streaker-prank-leaves-singer-tears-7134264/)

Yeah morning zoo crew culture is perpetually stuck on 1990, it's weird when I listen every now and then, same old schtick descended from Stern and a zillion small market losers killing time between Aerosmith and whatever

Lena Dunham coming across really well the new NYTimes piece, sounds like she actually was trying to point out this fucked up thing. extra fucked up that no one believed her.

bet the Clintons are counting their blessings that the TV documentary they were making w HW never got made.

They put Taylor Swift on the cover to sell magazines--very defendable choice of editing. Would rather have more gas on the fire even if it comes at the cost of more stargazing.

So, this is because Trumpo turned them down?

(leaving that typo in..)

Trump didn't turn them down, he was just in the running.

"I know...."