Spotify - anyone heard of it?

The Wrapped list seemed not to take into account some (or all?) of the listening I did to music that had been saved to my phone. I've noticed that when I look at my queue/history on my laptop it tends to only reflect bits of what I've streamed on the phone, too.

Fastnbulbous, the Wrapped thing doesn't involve any guessing, so if it says Voivod, then your Spotify account definitely played them during 2017. Whether you were listening when it did, we can't tell!

The data for it is a static snapshot as of a little while ago, sadly, so it won't update with your listening from the rest of the year. I wish it did, but that would make the project much harder.

The queue-sharing issues are independent of the underlying listening history, which as far as I *know* has no systemic issues. I think the only way we wouldn't know about something you played offline is if you wiped the app or the phone after listening but before going back online again.

I'm puzzled at its insistence that 'indie Rock' is my most listened-to genre when very little in my top 100 would qualify save for maybe a handful of songs. I listened to Future Islands a bit, and a Camera Obscura song I like a few times but mostly it's other styles.
Was also consistently bamboozled at the Discover Weekly telling me I had to listen to things like Grizzly Bear and the National and other indie rock fare which I really dislike, and never any trap or afrobeat or dancehall or even house and techno which make a big part of my listening these days. What have I been doing wrong?

I dunno but my Tom Petty binge really screwed up my algorithms, that's for sure. note that you can slap an "I don't like this artist" tag onto particularly objectionable suggestions.

thanks to an assignment from whiney the chainsmokers are on my most played list :(

THREE TIMES :( :( :(

i mean spotify isn't the only place i listen to music so i knew this was going to be imperfect

but still

has any1 herd ov 2017wrapped.com

Thanks to my nutso kids listening to their Echo Dot, Boss Fight is my favorite band. I went and created another Spotify account on my family plan for all of the Echos.

do what you got to do

My DW is completely dictated by my nutso 15-year-old. I don’t want to pay for a second acct for him. What oh what can a guy do?

Dog Latin, make a playlist with several examples of each of those genres, turn on repeat and hit play. Leave this playing on your laptop / phone overnight. I think playlists have the most impact on your DW reccs but I don’t know for sure.

I mainly enjoy listening to my friends' lists, so is there anyway I can follow them without them and have them be identifiable, rather than all called "Your Top 100 Songs 2017"? I mean, I made individual empty playlists and copied my friends' playlists in and retitled them... but can Spotify save me those 8 clicks.

Also yes, one of my resolutions was "Keeping buying premium!" which reminded me of that "Keep gaming... it means keep gambling" bit in The Simpsons episode where Springfield builds the casino.

Love to see artists link to (Your) Release Radar with "Hey everyone check my new track on this amazing playlist" or whatever.

probably a mistake, but it's almost smart in a roundabout way -- anyone who clicks a "check out my new track" from an artist is likely to be a fan who's listened to them before, and anyone who does the three-point turn of loading spotify from a spotify URL probably has an account already

Good news! Turned on the Spotify Roku app today and got a message saying it would be temporarily offline starting Friday as they are working on rolling out a new app. I had thought that they basically gave up on Roku, so I'm pleasantly surprised that an improvement is in the works. There's a ton that could be better about the Roku app, I really hope this makes a positive difference.

roku needs to get on the ball imo

Think this is more up to spotify than roku

nevertheless

Is there a Spotify app on Apple TV?

no but you can airstream the audio from your phone through it

https://open.spotify.com/user/ulyssestone/playlist/54hZLPMDWjHVpCi9eJtUPB
^^seems ECM have now heard of Spotify!

oh hell yeah

Spotify loves to recommend me Chris Spedding for some reason. I really don't know why. (But I don't mind.)

― Animal Bitrate (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 11 August 2016 21:10 (nine months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And I think "Video Life" by Chris Spedding has appeared six or seven times overall now. He must have made nearly a penny from me.

― Animal Bitrate (Raw Patrick), Monday, June 5, 2017 10:12 PM (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Good old "Video Life" by Spedding appears yet again in my Discover Weekly as it veers increasingly away from anything I would like to discover.

Technical Question, maybe Glenn knows - if I sync 30 albums offline and then Un-sync them, does the app then (or eventually) release that used space on the device? I don’t think it used to but maybe the app has evolved ?

Today I heard that if you download a playlist to your phone, Spotify will continue to stream it (bypassing the download and using your data allowance) unless you make a point of taking the app offline.

This sounds wrong to me but appears to be confirmed here:

Thanks! If the app isn't set to Offline from the settings, it'll continue to stream songs, instead of reading them from the cache /BH

— SpotifyCares (@SpotifyCares) September 22, 2017

If so this is a very recent change, right? It's insane.

hmm i've been listening to lots of downloaded playlists in the past few weeks and not used any data

i wonder if that's a kludge to make stats easier to calculate for royalty payments?? i.e. what is the definition of a "stream" vs a "download" and do artists get paid differently?

"artists"

i mean i doubt it, but.. struggling to think of another reason

that really doesn't make any sense though

i just mean from an accounting standpoint maybe it's easier to track streams than plays from cache.. probably not though

oh yes and also i was wondering if there's legal language in royalty contracts that differentiates between "streams" and "downloads" and if there's an incentive for spotify to favour the former over the latter

There's no royalty difference between online and offline streams, and the information we track is the same for both. Offline streams just don't get counted until the client reconnects and sends the info from the last offline session.

I don't have any insight into the specific question about data-usage for cached tracks while online, sorry...

another conspiracy theory bites the dust

On the face of it that statement is nuts.

just the phrase "offline stream" is making my head hurt tbh

Sorry, internally we use "stream" to refer to the act of a listener causing a song to be played. But whatever you call this, it's treated the same for record-keeping and royalty-paying whether it happens online or offline.

tempted to start a new thread for this

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/spotifys-fatal-flaw-exposed-how-my-closed-door-meeting_us_5a512262e4b0cd114bdb33cd

^^ original dead link for article

https://thetrichordist.com/2018/01/08/the-slippery-slope-of-censorship-huffpost-pulls-story-critical-of-spotify-ahead-of-ipo/

I was a vocal participant in the meeting, and when it was over I found myself surrounded by several Spotify executives. One said, “Blake, I just don’t think you understand, our users love our product because it’s such an amazing one.” Another added, “You have to look past just numbers, our product is so great it’s actually turning the industry around.” This went on for a while, until I finally said to one of the executives, “You keep using that word, ‘product.’ I’m not trying to be difficult, I’m really asking you: what do you think your product is?”

The executive was surprised. He stared at me blankly and said, “What do you mean? Our product is Spotify.”

There it was. It was a shocking admission to me, in earshot of everyone, and one he obviously didn’t think was an admission at all.

“No no…sorry,” I said, shaking my head in disbelief. “Your product isn’t ‘Spotify.’” He continued to stare at me. I said, “Sir, your product is music.” The emboldened musicians standing around us started laughing. The exec smiled and backed away, “Well okay, if you’re going to be like that.”

that's not a very good article

there is a reason spotify is as successful as it is, and it's not because they sell "music" the way starbucks sells "coffee"

obv Spotify is a product, just like the iPod was, or the record player - that it stands in a different relation to the content it provides is also obv

it might be more like a department store. the products are produced by others, but how do you feel when you're in there? how do you discover what's available? how useful is it as a place to get stuff you knew - and stuff you didn't know you wanted? the great department stores are the best at this. there are even subsidies from the brands, who will set up their own little corners etc.

i just kicked a spotify exec out of my meeting for calling his product an app

It's an awful article, written in an awful tone of voice.

Spotify = Walmart

“No no…sorry,” I said, shaking my giant head full of ethics knowledge in disbelief. “Your product isn’t ‘Spotify.’” He continued to stare at me in amazement. I said, “Sir, your product is music.” The emboldened musicians standing around us started laughing, high fiving, and cheering my name. The exec smiled and backed away, “Well okay, if you’re going to be like that.” He retreated, stepping on the meeting room's carpet rake so that the handle then struck his face.

lmao

anyway, the last spotify complaint was about how spotify made stuff and shouldn't. in this new spotify complaint, guy is sanctimonious about spotify apparently not making stuff.

as if it would all be ok if they made kirkland brand trap