I gather many in this thread will not need reminding but man if it's not a matter of definite life and death do *not* call the fucking cops
― Simon H., Friday, 8 December 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link
Think of how quickly reality show people acclimate to being constantly on camera and how they forget the cameras are there, leading to some truly ridiculous behavior. Now transfer that to someone already used to wearing communicators on their body while at work; the reminder that the recording device is there is going to fade and people will behave however they want to behave. Furthermore, the footage will be spun by the people watching it to match whatever their preconceived notions are, most of which bend heavily in the officer's favor.
― Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link
There are so many possible ways for body cams to fail on top of that, and even if they were proven to make a dent in brutality, they still can't be anywhere near the only strategy
― Simon H., Friday, 8 December 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link
i wasn't saying they should be the only strategy
― treeship 2, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link
i'm wondering what it would take for a national "weinstein moment" in police violence against people of color to happen. video of men and women being murdered doesn't seem to do it. On tape white teen killed among a group of black teens? it's a fucking cold country.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link
It would take white celebs getting assaulted.
― Simon H., Friday, 8 December 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link
the "weinstein movement" already happened when it comes to liberals. but the police and the government are controlled by republicans.
― treeship 2, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link
there are still people on the left who deny that police violence is a serious issue of course but the consensus seems to be pro-police reform, pro-accountability.
― treeship 2, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link
this event won't tip things if tamir rice didn't
none of the cameras or whatever matter as long as they're trained to say 'in fear for my life' and the law is written to permit juries to let that fly
― j., Friday, 8 December 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link
I've never understood owning more than one belt at a given time
― Simon H., Friday, December 8, 2017 2:21 PM (thirteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― marcos, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link
oh christ wrong c&p error
― marcos, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link
I profoundly regret watching that.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, December 8, 2017 1:47 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
meant to quote this
ugh i feel so depressed
everything is so fucked
maybe you should just give a second belt a try
― j., Friday, 8 December 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link
I hate how much that sequence of posts just made me laugh
― Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 8 December 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link
On the plain-shown corruption end of the thread: several friends are among the 200 defendants on trial & facing 80 years in prison after the mass arrest of inauguration day protesters. (boy do i have stuff to say about this in a more appropriate thread)
These notes from the first days in the courtroom have several instances of cops denying things on the stand only to be immediately confronted with contradicting video or audio evidence.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9kdb3a/dystopian-sketches-from-inside-the-inauguration-protesters-trial
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 8 December 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link
i laughed too thanks j
― marcos, Friday, 8 December 2017 21:27 (six years ago) link
it was brilliant timing
― Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 8 December 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link
this is just crazy and so sadhttps://www.yahoo.com/news/alleged-swatting-hoax-ends-death-223700818.html
― Spottie, Saturday, 30 December 2017 04:07 (six years ago) link
damn. is this officially the first time swatting has lead to death?
― Nhex, Saturday, 30 December 2017 05:08 (six years ago) link
Looks like it
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 30 December 2017 13:56 (six years ago) link
looks like the LAPD have arrested a suspect. while the kansas cop who actually fired the shots is on paid administrative leave. sigh.what an absolutely senseless nightmare for that family.
― Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 30 December 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link
this is infuriating. now instead of suicide by cop, it's "homicide by cop".
undoubtedly the police apologists will say "it's the fault of the person who made the false report" and yeah that's true to an extent, but for fuck's sake some level of threat assessment has to be done at the scene prior to shooting!
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 30 December 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link
Abolish gamers
― Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Saturday, 30 December 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link
otm
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 30 December 2017 15:45 (six years ago) link
they arrested the person who made the false report and of course in the statement by law enforcement, all blame for the death was placed on him. which tbf, yeah he invented a scenario where he killed his father and poured gasoline around the house, but....idk maybe check it out before shooting guys?
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 30 December 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link
(I mean yes, it was equally false reporter's fault and he should see heavy jail time as they've done this like ten+ times apparently)
i'm sure more details will come out but.. did this SWAT cop just see an unarmed man open the door and shoot him? really?
― Nhex, Saturday, 30 December 2017 20:22 (six years ago) link
the claim is that he thought he saw the unarmed man's hand "moving towards his waistband" bleagh
― Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 30 December 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link
I'm honestly surprised that you (or anyone) is surprised that yet another murdering pig scumbag has murdered someone for no fucking reason yet again and will no doubt get away with it yet again
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 30 December 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link
i am not surprised fwiw.
― Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 30 December 2017 20:46 (six years ago) link
yeah shame on me i guess
― Nhex, Saturday, 30 December 2017 20:49 (six years ago) link
but bear in mind swatting has happened many many times in the last decade, this is (as far as I know) the first time it finally ended up with someone getting killed
― Nhex, Saturday, 30 December 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link
John Cole:
Obviously, this does not excuse the evil behavior of those who called in the hoax, but jesus fucking christ, maybe we have a policing problem when they show up and start shooting before they even know what the hell is going on? What if that had been a hostage coming to the door (as it was, it was already a completely innocent person)? Why bother calling the cops in a hostage crisis if they are just going to open fire, kill ’em all, and let god sort it out.Just thinking outside the fucking box, here, but maybe decades of pretending the police are infallible and deserve our complete unflinching support and that we bow down at their feet for people who have a job less dangerous than a lumberjack combined with shitty pay, long hours, no chance of punishment for fuckups, and arming them to the teeth with weapons they do not need is also a problem here?
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:17 (six years ago) link
idk gamers still suck for sounding like they're just realizing all of this in 2017
― The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Sunday, 31 December 2017 03:42 (six years ago) link
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/black-man-says-tulsa-cops-arrested-him-for-over-obeying-during-traffic-stop-no-matter-what-i-did-i-was-going-to-lose/?utm_content=buffer0b2d9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
motherfucker!
― j., Monday, 22 January 2018 01:44 (six years ago) link
https://nypost.com/2018/01/21/police-union-slashes-number-of-get-out-of-jail-free-cards-issued/
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 22 January 2018 22:55 (six years ago) link
fucking fuckshttps://www.theroot.com/baltimore-cops-kept-toy-guns-to-plant-just-in-case-they-1822546984
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 23:11 (six years ago) link
When Anna said she was raped by two on-duty cops, she thought it would be a simple case. She had no idea she lived in one of 35 states where officers can claim a detainee consented.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 12:50 (six years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/06/tennessee-sheriff-caught-on-tape-killing-suspect-lawsuit
― Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 12:57 (six years ago) link
Blood is fucking boiling rn
― Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:50 (six years ago) link
jesus. i live in NY and hadn't heard about that Anna Chambers thing
― Nhex, Thursday, 8 February 2018 01:59 (six years ago) link
i think someone bumped another thread about this a couple weeks ago but is there any non-local news coverage (other than one nyt article) about the baltimore police trial? is it that boring and common to have cops rob people now?
― assawoman bay (harbl), Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:05 (six years ago) link
maybe?
― mookieproof, Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:55 (six years ago) link
it's kind of in the mass shootings of 5 people or less category. definitely noteworthy, but no longer national news
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:57 (six years ago) link
kind of fucked up
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:58 (six years ago) link
i just assume most cops are doing some kind of dirt now
― j., Thursday, 8 February 2018 03:04 (six years ago) link
yeah, it's true, what karl said. i just have so much to say about how sublimely bad these cops were. and how many other, un-charged cops they have testified about, and how people are still on this "but most cops are still heroes who keep my family safe" tip.
― assawoman bay (harbl), Friday, 9 February 2018 01:24 (six years ago) link