That RSTB list looks like an excellent repository of stuff that won't be on other lists, ty
― imago, Sunday, 10 December 2017 13:59 (six years ago) link
It always is each year. One of the few original mp3 blogs that is still going and is always worth a read. I think that and Said the Gramophone’s are my two favorite EOY lists from a blog. Glad they’re still going on after 10+ years.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 10 December 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link
Btw fastnbulbous that is one insanely detailed list for one person! Love that you made genre lists, I don’t think I even know what genres I’m listening to most of the time.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 10 December 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link
idk if the "pivot to video" now includes lists, but it seems that Pitchfork's Top 10 songs are contained in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR7P_nS9twI
10 Charli XCX "Boys"9 Kelela "Frontline"8 Future "Mask Off"7 King Krule "Dum Surfer"6 Frank Ocean "Chanel"5 Lil Uzi Vert "XO Tour Llif3"4 SZA "Love Galore feat. Travis Scott"3 Lorde "Green Light"2 Kendrick Lamar "D.N.A."1 Cardi B "Bodak Yellow"
― monotony, Monday, 11 December 2017 05:54 (six years ago) link
i forgot about 'boys'
― flopson, Monday, 11 December 2017 05:59 (six years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/the-100-best-songs-of-2017/ full list is up
― ufo, Monday, 11 December 2017 06:06 (six years ago) link
usually there's at least something interesting i'd overlooked to find from the p4k list but i've already heard nearly everything from it this year, oh well. it hasn't really been a great year for singles looking at most of these lists
i still don't understand all the love for bodak yellow, it's fine but doesn't really stand out as 'song of the year' material to me at all
― ufo, Monday, 11 December 2017 06:13 (six years ago) link
The b in bodak stands for boring.
― how's life, Monday, 11 December 2017 06:15 (six years ago) link
it's a good song
― flopson, Monday, 11 December 2017 06:51 (six years ago) link
From the 4 hip hop songs in the top 10, ‘bodak yellow’ is the one that doesn’t leave me any strong impression. Would’ve preferred Kendrick, Future or Lil Uzi to get the #1.
That said, King Krule in the top 10 is more wtf for me. I still don’t get the appeal.
Also I love Charli XCX but Boys must be one of her weakest and less subtle singles.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 11 December 2017 08:45 (six years ago) link
Boys is great, way better than most of her post-True Romance singles, like Break the Rules and After the Afterparty for example are pretty dire
― ufo, Monday, 11 December 2017 10:37 (six years ago) link
PopMatters albums
― iCloudius (cryptosicko), Monday, 11 December 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link
now I understand why these lists start coming out in Nov. When you're the first list out with Lorde and Kendrick in the top spots, cool. When you're the 50th...
― President Keyes, Monday, 11 December 2017 14:47 (six years ago) link
pitchfork established the narrative, the crushing dull inevitability of their lists is their grand validation. here's yr canon, nerds! eat it up!
― imago, Monday, 11 December 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link
feels like that used to be true, but now it kinda feels like they what for twitter/other media to establish the zeitgeist then they just confirm it.
― voodoo chili, Monday, 11 December 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link
it feels like they're listing the things people are supposed to like, rather than making a list out of the things their contributors are passionate about.
― voodoo chili, Monday, 11 December 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link
exactly, that too. also lol @ broken social scene getting in there amongst all the hip choonz - 2004 pfork may be dead but they still look out for their own
― imago, Monday, 11 December 2017 15:16 (six years ago) link
anyone know of a consolidated google doc tracking the major EOY lists? I know someone did this the last couple of years.
― Indexed, Monday, 11 December 2017 16:31 (six years ago) link
try this? ----> http://www.albumoftheyear.org/list/summary/2017/
― faust apes (NickB), Monday, 11 December 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link
helpful, thanks. if anyone knows the google doc owner and can share, i'd appreciate it.
― Indexed, Monday, 11 December 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link
i guess i ultimately liked the vince staples (and i think bagbak was a top ten single) but it's weird seeing an album released that early in the year over and over again as the token also-ran to Kendrick when there were so many other great hip hop albums; migos at least really needs to be in there somewhere.
If that aggregate list is to be believed, there were only five hip hop albums in the consensus top fifty... jay-z, tyler and RTJ being the others. So in a year when hip hop was the dominant sales force, it only amounts to 1/10th of the dominant critical consensus?
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link
rob mitchum has a spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-uY5_BeeKH_e2-XROri85qpV8s_5hMEEoFoxigci61I/htmlview
― stritram, Monday, 11 December 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link
big fish theory which i regularly accidentally refer to as big bang theory was one of the more disappointing things i heard this year, staples replacing any blush of personality he had with production pyrotechnics. its placement on these lists feels extremely arbitrary to me
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 11 December 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link
Richard Dawson is 1st on Quietus list, 2nd on Wire's and now another top ten position on Cracked's, damn, who would have thunk.
― damosuzuki, Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:45 PM (six
Still trying to figure this one out
― curmudgeon, Monday, 11 December 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link
TY stritram!
― Indexed, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link
kinda surprised to not see OMB Peezy on any track lists
― devvvine, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link
Feel like there is disappointingly little room for the weird, niche or genre music in any of these lists, apart from the ones that contain nothing else.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 11 December 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link
So in a year when hip hop was the dominant sales force, it only amounts to 1/10th of the dominant critical consensus?
Not to disagree with the underlying point but critics lists full of best-sellers from any genre wouldn't really be that useful.
― nashwan, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
"sales"
― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 December 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, December 11, 2017 11:56 AM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm, big step down from Summertime '06
― voodoo chili, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link
Critics actually being critical?
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
on The Fader's
― Number None, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link
substitute "spins" for "sales" if u wanna, that's what everybody's pretending to do anyway
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link
As someone who has Guppy as their AOTY, p4k putting that corny ass DJ Khaled/Santana mashup right above Charly Bliss in the bottom of the list felt like their way of specifically trolling me
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link
"Wild Thoughts" rules fuiud
― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link
yeah, no
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link
― voodoo chili, Monday, December 11, 2017 11:17 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
agreed, and summertime 06 was my runaway #1 in 2015. favorite thing on bft is the kendrick verse on yeah right.
― Indexed, Monday, 11 December 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link
― how's life, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:15 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flopson, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:51 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Is it tho 🤔
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link
nah
― maura, Monday, 11 December 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
and it’s certainly more of a reflection of the mindset that turned trump into a viable candidate than an insurgency against the status quo. worthingtons law people
― maura, Monday, 11 December 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link
She's literally also a reality TV star too!
― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link
when you lose the poptimists
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link
https://daily.bandcamp.com/2017/12/11/the-best-bandcamp-albums-of-2017-100-81/
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 11 December 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link
itt: people surprised anew that consensus lists reflect consensus and not individual taste
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link
Melkbelly at 91 on bandcamp list. Too low but I'll take it. (Maybe if I listen to enough of the rest of the list I will find it's not too low.)
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 11 December 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link
can u believe that poptimism is more nuanced than people paint it 🙄
― maura, Monday, 11 December 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link
― maura, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:36 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you're going to have to unpack this for me, how do you get from point A Trump to point B Bodak Yellow?
― evol j, Monday, 11 December 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link
One who has more money is of greater value than one who has less?
― Dan S, Monday, 11 December 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link
People saw them on tv and decided they would be cool with nukes
― President Keyes, Monday, 11 December 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link
Trumps rap debut Bodak Orange is all set to drop in Jan 2018 iirc
― faust apes (NickB), Monday, 11 December 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link