This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2017

I'mma sticking Aki Kaurismaki's The Other Side of Hope in my #2 slot behind BPM for now... Puts most of the crap listed above into perspective.

Le Havre made no impression on me, is this one considered superior?

not by most; i'm a big fan across the board

Speaking of crap, here's the Golden Globe nominees. For those following along, yep, that's five white men nominated for best director.

Best motion picture, drama
“Call Me By Your Name”
“Dunkirk”
“The Post”
“The Shape of Water”
“Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”

Best motion picture, comedy or musical
“The Disaster Artist”
“Get Out”
“The Greatest Showman”
“I, Tonya”
“Lady Bird”

Best actress in a motion picture, drama
Jessica Chastain, “Molly’s Game”
Sally Hawkins, “The Shape of Water”
Frances McDormand, “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”
Meryl Streep, “The Post”
Michelle Williams, “All the Money in the World”

Best actress in a motion picture, comedy or musical
Judi Dench, “Victoria & Abdul”
Helen Mirren, “The Leisure Seeker”
Margot Robbie, “I, Tonya”
Saoirse Ronan, “Lady Bird”
Emma Stone, “Battle of the Sexes”

Best actor in a motion picture, drama
Timothée Chalamet, “Call Me By Your Name”
Daniel Day-Lewis, “Phantom Thread”
Tom Hanks, “The Post”
Gary Oldman, “Darkest Hour”
Denzel Washington, “Roman J. Israel, Esq.”

Best actor in a motion picture, comedy or musical
Steve Carell, “Battle of the Sexes”
Ansel Elgort, “Baby Driver”
James Franco, “The Disaster Artist”
Hugh Jackman, “The Greatest Showman”
Daniel Kaluuya, “Get Out”

Best supporting actress in a motion picture
Laurie Metcalf, “Lady Bird”
Allison Janney, “I, Tonya”
Mary J. Blige, “Mudbound”
Octavia Spencer, “The Shape of Water”
Hong Chau, “Downsizing”

Best supporting actor in a motion picture
Armie Hammer, “Call Me By Your Name”
Richard Jenkins, “The Shape of Water”
Sam Rockwell, “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”
Willem Dafoe, “The Florida Project”
Christopher Plummer, “All the Money in the World”

Best director, motion picture
Christopher Nolan, “Dunkirk”
Steven Spielberg, “The Post”
Guillermo del Toro, “The Shape of Water”
Martin McDonagh, “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”
Ridley Scott, “All the Money in the World”

Best screenplay, motion picture
“Lady Bird” (Greta Gerwig)
“The Shape of Water” (Guillermo del Toro and Vanessa Taylor)
“Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri” (Martin McDonagh)
“The Post” (Liz Hannah and Josh Singer)
“Molly’s Game” (Aaron Sorkin)

Best animated feature film
“Coco”
“Loving Vincent”
“The Breadwinner”
“Ferdinand”
“The Boss Baby”

Best original song
“Remember Me,” “Coco”
“This Is Me,” “The Greatest Showman”
“Mighty River,” “Mudbound”
“Home,” “Ferdinand”
“The Star,” “The Star”

Best original score, motion picture
“The Shape of Water”
“Dunkirk”
“The Post”
“Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”
“Phantom Thread”

Best foreign language film
“The Square”
“First They Killed My Father”
“In the Fade”
“A Fantastic Woman”
“Loveless”

Ansel Elgort, “Baby Driver”

call me by YOUR name

Get Out is a comedy, huh?

I don't think Guillermo del Toro is white

/Get Out/ is a comedy, huh?

Take it to twitter, normie

xp OK, asterisk. But neither is Guillermo del Toro Greta Gerwig, Dee Rees or Jordan Peele.

the Hollywood Whoring Press doesn't like Sufjan Stevens songs, it seems

they are saluting Ridley Scott's bottom-line solution to #Metoo, though!

no one's gonna convince me to give I, Tonya screener a chance?

Margo's Game was actively obnoxious.

The best song in Call Me By Your Name was Psychedelic Furs

LOVED the square btw

xp the best song in CMBYN was Ravel's Miroirs: Une barque sur l'océan gtfo

There's no way The Greatest Showman isn't the worst of the pic nominees

here, Morbs, let Elio serenade you:

http://cinemavine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/call-me-your-name-movie-trailer-Timothe%CC%81e-Chalamet-.png

There's no way The Greatest Showman isn't the worst of the pic nominees

Since they somehow managed to not nominate All The Money in the World in best picture despite nominating it everywhere else, probably.

it's amazing that there was a hit Broadway musical about Barnum in 1980 (?) that was never adapted to film, and yet they made this one, which looks imported from 1969.

Darling P.T.

not that good!

(that B'way musical starred Jim Dale and a pre-Garp Glenn Close btw)

I hope the song about the beluga whales he boiled alive is catchy, at least.

remember this horror?

https://recklesseyes.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/water_for_elephants_movie_poster2.jpg

Like Water for Elephants

holy shit: WFE made $117 million.

I don't, mercifully

The TGS trailer makes it clear he gave the 'freaks' and little people their dignity.

San Diego crix trying to shake things up

Best Actor: James McAvoy, SPLIT
Runner Up: James Franco, THE DISASTER ARTIST

Best Actress: Sally Hawkins, MAUDIE
Runner Up: Sally Hawkins, THE SHAPE OF WATER

We've got a few voters on our end who are also enthusiastic about McAvoy. The studio's certainly doing a mild push.

Slant's "follies" of the year. (Like Reverse Shot, not calling them "worsts.")

https://www.slantmagazine.com/features/article/the-20-worst-film-follies-of-2017/

here is Film Comment's list

https://www.filmcomment.com/best-of-2017/

We're to the point in the year where I can accurately predict what will appear in the top reaches of these polls but still be properly surprised by what order they come in. Wouldn't have guessed that #1.

i am going to guess before I click on it

I was wrong! Good, Jeff Wells may have a stroke.

still mystified by the Personal Shopper love.

I kind of liked Clouds of Sils Maria, what did you think of that one Dr. Morbius?

I loathed it! Except for Stewart.

also, Kaurismaki finishing ahead of The Orlando Rascals -- what the world needs now.

01. Good Time (Josh and Benny Safdie, USA, A24)
02. A Quiet Passion (Terence Davies, U.K./Belgium, Music Box Films)
03. Personal Shopper (Olivier Assayas, France, IFC Films)
04. Get Out (Jordan Peele, USA, Universal Pictures)
05. Nocturama (Bertrand Bonello, France, Grasshopper Film)
06. Ex Libris: The New York Public Library (Frederick Wiseman, USA, Zipporah Films)
07. The Death of Louis XIV (Albert Serra, France/Portugal/Spain, The Cinema Guild)
08. Faces Places (Agnès Varda and JR, France, Cohen Media Group)
09. The Lost City of Z (James Gray, USA, Amazon Studios/Bleecker Street)
10. Lady Bird (Greta Gerwig, USA, A24)
11. The Human Surge (Eduardo Williams, Argentina, Grasshopper Film)
12. The Other Side of Hope (Aki Kaurismäki, Finland, Janus Films)
13. The Florida Project (Sean Baker, USA, A24)
14. Dawson City: Frozen Time (Bill Morrison, USA, Kino Lorber)
15. Phantom Thread (Paul Thomas Anderson, USA, Focus Features)
16. On the Beach at Night Alone (Hong Sangsoo, South Korea, The Cinema Guild)
17. Wonderstruck (Todd Haynes, USA, Amazon Studios)
18. Mudbound (Dee Rees, USA, Netflix)
19. BPM (Robin Campillo, France, The Orchard)
20. The Square (Ruben Östlund, Sweden, Magnolia)

I'm legit shocked by the #1.

What was your guess, Morbs?

Another December, another Wiseman not screening till God knows when

#19! I really don't have a good sense anymore of who votes in that poll. xp

Ex Libris is screening at NYC MoMA on the 28th, c'mon up. (I missed its monthlong run here, which was shockingly short.)

I owe y'all a visit. Probably January or early Feb.

i guess the FC voters are NYC-heavy, so that helped Good Time.

Also by rough count 14/20 played one of the last two NYFFs or opened at Lincoln Center.

#11 seems to have, ahem, surged from outta nowhere.

what did y'all think of The Other Side of Hope (? I'm watching it on Thursday.

Also, fully half that list is American, which I'm surprised by at this point.

Never mind, found the Kaurismaki thread.

Missed Human Surge but it's running at a local year-wrapup series soon.

haven't seen one of these:

https://www.filmcomment.com/best-undistributed-films-of-2017/

I ... have my work cut out for me in '18.

Number 1 is indeed very good, was in competition at CPH:PIX. Have only seen a couple of the other ones.

Ex Libris is worth seeing but it's among his weaker ones tbh