PopMatters albums
― iCloudius (cryptosicko), Monday, 11 December 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link
now I understand why these lists start coming out in Nov. When you're the first list out with Lorde and Kendrick in the top spots, cool. When you're the 50th...
― President Keyes, Monday, 11 December 2017 14:47 (six years ago) link
pitchfork established the narrative, the crushing dull inevitability of their lists is their grand validation. here's yr canon, nerds! eat it up!
― imago, Monday, 11 December 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link
feels like that used to be true, but now it kinda feels like they what for twitter/other media to establish the zeitgeist then they just confirm it.
― voodoo chili, Monday, 11 December 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link
it feels like they're listing the things people are supposed to like, rather than making a list out of the things their contributors are passionate about.
― voodoo chili, Monday, 11 December 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link
exactly, that too. also lol @ broken social scene getting in there amongst all the hip choonz - 2004 pfork may be dead but they still look out for their own
― imago, Monday, 11 December 2017 15:16 (six years ago) link
anyone know of a consolidated google doc tracking the major EOY lists? I know someone did this the last couple of years.
― Indexed, Monday, 11 December 2017 16:31 (six years ago) link
try this? ----> http://www.albumoftheyear.org/list/summary/2017/
― faust apes (NickB), Monday, 11 December 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link
helpful, thanks. if anyone knows the google doc owner and can share, i'd appreciate it.
― Indexed, Monday, 11 December 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link
i guess i ultimately liked the vince staples (and i think bagbak was a top ten single) but it's weird seeing an album released that early in the year over and over again as the token also-ran to Kendrick when there were so many other great hip hop albums; migos at least really needs to be in there somewhere.
If that aggregate list is to be believed, there were only five hip hop albums in the consensus top fifty... jay-z, tyler and RTJ being the others. So in a year when hip hop was the dominant sales force, it only amounts to 1/10th of the dominant critical consensus?
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link
rob mitchum has a spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-uY5_BeeKH_e2-XROri85qpV8s_5hMEEoFoxigci61I/htmlview
― stritram, Monday, 11 December 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link
big fish theory which i regularly accidentally refer to as big bang theory was one of the more disappointing things i heard this year, staples replacing any blush of personality he had with production pyrotechnics. its placement on these lists feels extremely arbitrary to me
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 11 December 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link
Richard Dawson is 1st on Quietus list, 2nd on Wire's and now another top ten position on Cracked's, damn, who would have thunk.
― damosuzuki, Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:45 PM (six
Still trying to figure this one out
― curmudgeon, Monday, 11 December 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link
TY stritram!
― Indexed, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link
kinda surprised to not see OMB Peezy on any track lists
― devvvine, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link
Feel like there is disappointingly little room for the weird, niche or genre music in any of these lists, apart from the ones that contain nothing else.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 11 December 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link
So in a year when hip hop was the dominant sales force, it only amounts to 1/10th of the dominant critical consensus?
Not to disagree with the underlying point but critics lists full of best-sellers from any genre wouldn't really be that useful.
― nashwan, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
"sales"
― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 December 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, December 11, 2017 11:56 AM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm, big step down from Summertime '06
― voodoo chili, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link
Critics actually being critical?
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
on The Fader's
― Number None, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link
substitute "spins" for "sales" if u wanna, that's what everybody's pretending to do anyway
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link
As someone who has Guppy as their AOTY, p4k putting that corny ass DJ Khaled/Santana mashup right above Charly Bliss in the bottom of the list felt like their way of specifically trolling me
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link
"Wild Thoughts" rules fuiud
― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link
yeah, no
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link
― voodoo chili, Monday, December 11, 2017 11:17 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
agreed, and summertime 06 was my runaway #1 in 2015. favorite thing on bft is the kendrick verse on yeah right.
― Indexed, Monday, 11 December 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link
The b in bodak stands for boring.
― how's life, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:15 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's a good song
― flopson, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:51 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Is it tho 🤔
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link
nah
― maura, Monday, 11 December 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
and it’s certainly more of a reflection of the mindset that turned trump into a viable candidate than an insurgency against the status quo. worthingtons law people
― maura, Monday, 11 December 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link
She's literally also a reality TV star too!
― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link
when you lose the poptimists
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link
https://daily.bandcamp.com/2017/12/11/the-best-bandcamp-albums-of-2017-100-81/
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 11 December 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link
itt: people surprised anew that consensus lists reflect consensus and not individual taste
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link
Melkbelly at 91 on bandcamp list. Too low but I'll take it. (Maybe if I listen to enough of the rest of the list I will find it's not too low.)
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 11 December 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link
can u believe that poptimism is more nuanced than people paint it 🙄
― maura, Monday, 11 December 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link
― maura, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:36 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you're going to have to unpack this for me, how do you get from point A Trump to point B Bodak Yellow?
― evol j, Monday, 11 December 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link
One who has more money is of greater value than one who has less?
― Dan S, Monday, 11 December 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link
People saw them on tv and decided they would be cool with nukes
― President Keyes, Monday, 11 December 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link
Trumps rap debut Bodak Orange is all set to drop in Jan 2018 iirc
― faust apes (NickB), Monday, 11 December 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link
this isn't even a particularly poptimist year for lists. even discounting the usual caveat that actual poptimism would involve liking Ed Sheeran
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Monday, 11 December 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link
would it?
― your meat, my veg (imago), Monday, 11 December 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link
maybe it's time the American poptimists of ILX gave Rag'n'Bone Man a chance
― your meat, my veg (imago), Monday, 11 December 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link
Columnfortably Numb: The Best Psych-Rock Of 2017
― Dinsdale, Monday, 11 December 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, December 11, 2017 11:21 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
LOL PLEASE
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 11 December 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link
rag n bone man is getting airplay here. i thought the song was imagine dragons.
― maura, Monday, 11 December 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link
ANYWAY, worthington's law is a joke in 1997 that's reality in 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILN_UHVcLrg
donald trump: new york born reality tv star who is often defended with "well he makes a lot of money, he must be good at something"; brash; self-inflating; revels in humiliating underlings; has an annoying voicecardi b: new york born reality tv star who defends herself by crowing about her ability to make "money moves"; brash; self-inflating; revels in humiliating underlings ("I'm a boss, you a worker bitch/ I make bloody moves"); has an annoying voice
― maura, Monday, 11 December 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link
not to take the air out of everyone's TAYLOR SWIFT IS THE REAL MENACE sails but yeah
― maura, Monday, 11 December 2017 21:59 (six years ago) link
bodak yellow is a good song, sometimes i even find it great. the way the bass hits during some chorus lines is just... *chef kiss*. can't wait until ppl get angry once it shows up somewhere on ilx 77.
every song i don't like is secretly trump-pop btw.
― dyl, Monday, 11 December 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link
The Jorja Smith song is cool.
― billstevejim, Monday, 11 December 2017 23:31 (six years ago) link
"Bodak Yellow" seems like a boringly obvious in-character Pitchfork #1 imo.
― billstevejim, Monday, 11 December 2017 23:34 (six years ago) link