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Things got out of hand at our Wild West themed robot rape park but that's the price you pay for greatness

President Keyes, Monday, 11 December 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link

What is the tone in that clickhole article

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Monday, 11 December 2017 15:51 (six years ago) link

i believe it's 'profane marc loi'

straightedge is just volcel for vegans (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 December 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

or perhaps 'matt mcgorry's internal monologue'

straightedge is just volcel for vegans (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 December 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

xxp weary

ogmor, Monday, 11 December 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link

friend of mine had occasion to have to work w Batali in a professional capacity some years ago and while he did nothing of this nature in that instance I guess he was the biggest asshole about everything and kept not showing up for stuff and delayed things several days, def have off a terrible vibe I guess

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 11 December 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link

I mean celebrity chefs are up there with directors as a profession in which behaving just terribly seems to be part of the .... not gig, not draw, not expectation...but it really seems to come with the job

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Monday, 11 December 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

Just please tell me hes not Australian

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Monday, 11 December 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link

I used to work for a chef who's now semi-famous and he used to have a rep as a complete nightmare, till he sobered up. I recall some chair-throwing on one of my first nights there. Kitchens in general are just cesspools of harassment and drug abuse, but I'm guessing that's common knowledge by now.

Simon H., Monday, 11 December 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link

professional chefs are, by and large, mostly nutjobs

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link

I mean celebrity chefs are up there with directors as a profession in which behaving just terribly seems to be part of the .... not gig, not draw, not expectation...but it really seems to come with the job

― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Monday, December 11, 2017 8:19 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i love all the bad tattoo man chefs with their arms folded glaring at the camera, angry because their new hot restaurant is opening and they have to cook food.

omar little, Monday, 11 December 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link

they'd have to be. I mean, it's just fuckin' fuel, food. xp

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 December 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link

How different they are to the humble contestants on Masterchef.

Mark G, Monday, 11 December 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link

Similar situation in Chicago last month:
https://chicago.eater.com/2017/10/23/16523668/publican-chef-cosmo-goss-fired-one-off-photo-employee-inappropriate-personal

It's so much part of kitchen/restaurant culture - the rock-n-roll bacchanalia "rock-star" thing - that I assume much more is on the way. In the way that Batali now casts a shadow on the temple/destination Eataly, at some point 'hot new restaurants' will take a hit as people get more aware of the culture that makes it happen.

... (Eazy), Monday, 11 December 2017 16:32 (six years ago) link

how long until a plate of pork belly brings Guy Fieri up on assault charges?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 December 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link

Prob worth noting here (or maybe not but whatever) that Guy actually comes out looking sorta decent at heart in comparison to the more snooty Micheline starred chefs.

quick robin, to the hot take mobile! i've got a date with destiny and 600 words on Buzzfeed!

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link

inappropriate behavior, sexual harassment, drinking, drugs, etc are so embedded in the restaurant and bar business it's hard to even know where to start

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 11 December 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link

Guy Fieri is probably the best dude in the biz

frogbs, Monday, 11 December 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link

I have no idea about his personal life (nor do I care to) but what I have seen of his schtick is relentlessly positive: he appears to love every piece of food in existence, even if it's probably terrible. He loves every restaurant he visits. He's buds with every cook he meets.

So maybe that might carry over into not being a terrible asshole who wants to tear people down? I dunno. I don't want him to cook for me but he does seem to be bringing a different schtick from e.g. Oliver whose default setting is YOU FUCKING SUCK, YOU USELESS CUNT

didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 11 December 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link

Wait, is that who I mean? Probably not.

didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 11 December 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link

Gordon Ramsey. Jamie Oliver just likes to shame the poors

.oO (silby), Monday, 11 December 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

j oliver got testy with a black woman who was a soul food genius when he took a "road trip" and visited her place, all because she wouldn't tell him her exact recipe as she was cooking it, and that put him in my bad books for life. like maybe if you are sticking your video camera in her face and visiting her personally you should show a little respect and listen to what she says you complete dickhead

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 December 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link

Thanks, silby, was in a hurry and got sloppy

didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 11 December 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link

I thought that assessment of Oliver was pretty accurate

badg, Monday, 11 December 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link

The New Yorker has severed ties with Ryan Lizza in response to behavior the magazine believes to be “improper sexual conduct." Full statement: pic.twitter.com/a1PAb5Vkao

— Michael Calderone (@mlcalderone) December 11, 2017

mookieproof, Monday, 11 December 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link

That's two for today. Who will be #3?

... (Eazy), Monday, 11 December 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link

is there gonna be an alec baldwin moment or did that technically happen already

global tetrahedron, Monday, 11 December 2017 21:31 (six years ago) link

oh, and bill murray. the chive will be so disappointed, maybe

global tetrahedron, Monday, 11 December 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link

fuck the chive

maura, Monday, 11 December 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link

just on principle

maura, Monday, 11 December 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link

Oof. NAGL whatever is going on.

Just got statement from Ryan Lizza, who calls his firing from the New Yorker "a terrible mistake" pic.twitter.com/Jf6bQ9Nu83

— Tom Kludt (@TomKludt) December 11, 2017

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Monday, 11 December 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link

There were Batali rumors a couple of years ago, weren’t there?

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 11 December 2017 22:21 (six years ago) link

murray has actually occurred to me. as a partyin 70s comedy dude. i hope nothing happened. fuck the chive obv

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 December 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link

something tells me y'all need to chill out, keep calm, and chive on

global tetrahedron, Monday, 11 December 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link

i wonder what happened with Lizza. seems ballsy of him to say it was a dating relationship if in fact it wasn't.

akm, Monday, 11 December 2017 22:51 (six years ago) link

the whole "Bill Murray showed up at a bar and gave everyone free drinks!" is really fuckin annoying

flappy bird, Monday, 11 December 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link

"bill murray showed up at a bar and slipped everyone a roofie!" is even worse

akm, Monday, 11 December 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link

if bill murray’s former wife’s divorce paperwork is anything to go by the guy is a physically and mentally abusive asshole

straightedge is just volcel for vegans (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 December 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link

i wonder what happened with Lizza. seems ballsy of him to say it was a dating relationship if in fact it wasn't.

― akm, Monday, December 11, 2017 5:51 PM (fifty-eight minutes ago)

sounds like it might be an intra-office relationship

k3vin k., Monday, 11 December 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link

that's what I was thinking. which, if so, is mega fucked up to basically publicly dump this news at a time where it's going to be immediately assumed that it's a sexual assault/rape accusation.

but....who knows.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 00:32 (six years ago) link

Gordon Ramsey. Jamie Oliver just likes to shame the poors

fwiw the UK version of Kitchen Nightmares was delightful and heartwarming, as Ramsay gave advice both general and specific, was supportive, aimed to build a better-working version of the restaurant ppl had in their heads, and left the viewer knowing a little more about both food and management.

the US version is a horrible pile of shit which uses three shots of a bad restaurant run by an idiot, three scenes of Ramsay shouting abuse at them, rubbing his face and going "fuuuuck me", and 19 reaction shots of employees, all repeated over and over again in a tedious, uninformative formula. plus a shot of Ramsay taking off his shirt.

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:22 (six years ago) link

rubbing his face and going "fuuuuck me",

lmao this is so hilarious and otm

flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:31 (six years ago) link

yeah the og Kitchen Nightmares was one of my fav shows, hated the histrionic version they ported over to the US.

the ep about the salmon+strawberries guy always my fav

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:33 (six years ago) link

fox does it again

maura, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 02:41 (six years ago) link

salmon+strawberries guy vs pirate bar rescue

crocus bulbotuber (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 02:55 (six years ago) link

the plate-hoarder in the Tudor-style pub was my favorite of the OG Kitchen Nightmares

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 03:21 (six years ago) link

anyway back onto topic, I guessed to myself last night that it was going to be Batali because of the smattering of stories that had already come out. It felt plausible. And that nice-guy cheery persona makes it hit home a lot harder.

Anyway, not that any of that tempered my revulsion at reading the stories about him this morning
the full-body from-behind hugs and the deep-inhaling (among other things)
on the regular
like that's part of your worklife for however long
jfc

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 03:26 (six years ago) link

They say the most important thing for a person in the public eye is sincerity; once you can fake that, you're on your way to success.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 03:35 (six years ago) link

Thought this was a really good essay:

https://www.thecut.com/2017/12/rebecca-traister-this-moment-isnt-just-about-sex.html

“What makes women vulnerable is not their carnal violability, but rather the way that their worth has been understood as fundamentally erotic, ornamental; that they have not been taken seriously as equals; that they have been treated as some ancillary reward that comes with the kinds of power men are taught to reach for and are valued for achieving. How to make clear that the trauma of the smaller trespasses — the boob grabs and unwanted kisses or come-ons from bosses — is not necessarily even about the sexualized act in question; so many of us learned to maneuver around hands-y men without sustaining lasting emotional damage when we were 14. Rather, it’s about the cruel reminder that these are still the terms on which we are valued, by our colleagues, our bosses, sometimes our competitors, the men we tricked ourselves into thinking might see us as smart, formidable colleagues or rivals, not as the kinds of objects they can just grab and grope and degrade without consequence. It’s not that we’re horrified like some Victorian damsel; it’s that we’re horrified like a woman in 2017 who briefly believed she was equal to her male peers but has just been reminded that she is not, who has suddenly had her comparative powerlessness revealed to her.”

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 04:53 (six years ago) link


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