So in a year when hip hop was the dominant sales force, it only amounts to 1/10th of the dominant critical consensus?
Not to disagree with the underlying point but critics lists full of best-sellers from any genre wouldn't really be that useful.
― nashwan, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
"sales"
― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 December 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link
big fish theory which i regularly accidentally refer to as big bang theory was one of the more disappointing things i heard this year, staples replacing any blush of personality he had with production pyrotechnics. its placement on these lists feels extremely arbitrary to me
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, December 11, 2017 11:56 AM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm, big step down from Summertime '06
― voodoo chili, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link
Critics actually being critical?
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
kinda surprised to not see OMB Peezy on any track lists
on The Fader's
― Number None, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link
substitute "spins" for "sales" if u wanna, that's what everybody's pretending to do anyway
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link
As someone who has Guppy as their AOTY, p4k putting that corny ass DJ Khaled/Santana mashup right above Charly Bliss in the bottom of the list felt like their way of specifically trolling me
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link
"Wild Thoughts" rules fuiud
― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link
yeah, no
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link
― voodoo chili, Monday, December 11, 2017 11:17 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
agreed, and summertime 06 was my runaway #1 in 2015. favorite thing on bft is the kendrick verse on yeah right.
― Indexed, Monday, 11 December 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link
The b in bodak stands for boring.
― how's life, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:15 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's a good song
― flopson, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:51 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Is it tho 🤔
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link
nah
― maura, Monday, 11 December 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
and it’s certainly more of a reflection of the mindset that turned trump into a viable candidate than an insurgency against the status quo. worthingtons law people
― maura, Monday, 11 December 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link
She's literally also a reality TV star too!
― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link
when you lose the poptimists
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link
https://daily.bandcamp.com/2017/12/11/the-best-bandcamp-albums-of-2017-100-81/
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 11 December 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link
itt: people surprised anew that consensus lists reflect consensus and not individual taste
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Monday, 11 December 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link
Melkbelly at 91 on bandcamp list. Too low but I'll take it. (Maybe if I listen to enough of the rest of the list I will find it's not too low.)
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 11 December 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link
can u believe that poptimism is more nuanced than people paint it 🙄
― maura, Monday, 11 December 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link
― maura, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:36 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you're going to have to unpack this for me, how do you get from point A Trump to point B Bodak Yellow?
― evol j, Monday, 11 December 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link
One who has more money is of greater value than one who has less?
― Dan S, Monday, 11 December 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link
People saw them on tv and decided they would be cool with nukes
― President Keyes, Monday, 11 December 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link
Trumps rap debut Bodak Orange is all set to drop in Jan 2018 iirc
― faust apes (NickB), Monday, 11 December 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link
this isn't even a particularly poptimist year for lists. even discounting the usual caveat that actual poptimism would involve liking Ed Sheeran
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Monday, 11 December 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link
would it?
― your meat, my veg (imago), Monday, 11 December 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link
maybe it's time the American poptimists of ILX gave Rag'n'Bone Man a chance
― your meat, my veg (imago), Monday, 11 December 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link
Columnfortably Numb: The Best Psych-Rock Of 2017
― Dinsdale, Monday, 11 December 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, December 11, 2017 11:21 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
LOL PLEASE
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 11 December 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link
rag n bone man is getting airplay here. i thought the song was imagine dragons.
― maura, Monday, 11 December 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link
ANYWAY, worthington's law is a joke in 1997 that's reality in 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILN_UHVcLrg
donald trump: new york born reality tv star who is often defended with "well he makes a lot of money, he must be good at something"; brash; self-inflating; revels in humiliating underlings; has an annoying voicecardi b: new york born reality tv star who defends herself by crowing about her ability to make "money moves"; brash; self-inflating; revels in humiliating underlings ("I'm a boss, you a worker bitch/ I make bloody moves"); has an annoying voice
― maura, Monday, 11 December 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link
not to take the air out of everyone's TAYLOR SWIFT IS THE REAL MENACE sails but yeah
― maura, Monday, 11 December 2017 21:59 (six years ago) link
bodak yellow is a good song, sometimes i even find it great. the way the bass hits during some chorus lines is just... *chef kiss*. can't wait until ppl get angry once it shows up somewhere on ilx 77.
every song i don't like is secretly trump-pop btw.
― dyl, Monday, 11 December 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link
The Jorja Smith song is cool.
― billstevejim, Monday, 11 December 2017 23:31 (six years ago) link
"Bodak Yellow" seems like a boringly obvious in-character Pitchfork #1 imo.
― billstevejim, Monday, 11 December 2017 23:34 (six years ago) link
this year's most ridiculous pop hit (or "hit" in this case) that inexplicably causes critics to stumble over themselves to praise it is "bad liar". congrats selena.
― dyl, Monday, 11 December 2017 23:45 (six years ago) link
"Bad Liar" is ok. These 2017 EOYs have large "ok" per capita / notable deficit in bangers per capita.
Wtf "Boys" at #10 xp
― billstevejim, Monday, 11 December 2017 23:53 (six years ago) link
I really didn't hear what others did in "Bad Liar". To me the instrumentation sounds like something from one of those peppy advertisements for home loans or private health insurance.
― monotony, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link
"has an annoying voice" is about as subjective an opinion as anyone can havei can think of a few things that differentiate cardi and donnie and net worth is not the first one that comes to mind
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 00:05 (six years ago) link
"Cut To The Feeling" is also kinda just ok and not as good as 90% of her songs from the past 3 years.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 00:16 (six years ago) link
I admit the Talking Heads hook was the initial bait that attracted me to Bad Liar, but I barely even register that anymore. It's just so differently constructed than all other song factory pop this year that it holds the creative and sentimental high ground.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 00:19 (six years ago) link
on the poppity pop front i would stand up for New Rules, Boys, Love So Soft, anything on Haim's album, Anything on Red Velvet's albumTo a lesser extent: Issues, Bodak, Cut to the Feeling, Bad Liar, Slide, How Long (I am embarrassed but i came around to THE PUTH)I found the Kesha album overrated but I'm not mad at it.I'm continuing to try to push Akanamali as my fave pop song of the year in the hopes it gets some movement on the ilx 77https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKxFS8L6AlQ
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 00:36 (six years ago) link
here's my annual songs list. sun-el musician at #36!
http://www.saidthegramophone.com/archives/best_songs_of_2017.php
― sean gramophone, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:05 (six years ago) link
Yay!
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:06 (six years ago) link
Ooh, love that
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:54 (six years ago) link
The b in bodak stands for boring.― how's life, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:15 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkit's a good song― flopson, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:51 AM Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkIs it tho 🤔― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, December 11, 2017 1:33 PM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, December 11, 2017 1:33 PM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes
nah― maura, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:35 PM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― maura, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:35 PM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yah
and it’s certainly more of a reflection of the mindset that turned trump into a viable candidate than an insurgency against the status quo. worthingtons law people― maura, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:36 PM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkdonald trump: new york born reality tv star who is often defended with "well he makes a lot of money, he must be good at something"; brash; self-inflating; revels in humiliating underlings; has an annoying voicecardi b: new york born reality tv star who defends herself by crowing about her ability to make "money moves"; brash; self-inflating; revels in humiliating underlings ("I'm a boss, you a worker bitch/ I make bloody moves"); has an annoying voice― maura, Monday, December 11, 2017 4:58 PM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― maura, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:36 PM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― maura, Monday, December 11, 2017 4:58 PM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol
― flopson, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 04:44 (six years ago) link
can't wait until ppl get angry once it shows up somewhere on ilx 77.
i wish lex still posted
If lex doesn't come back for the poll, then why are we even gonna run it
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 04:48 (six years ago) link
reasonable point
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 04:54 (six years ago) link
yeah :(
― sleeve, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 05:06 (six years ago) link
Pitchfork albums:https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/the-50-best-albums-of-2017/
― faust apes (NickB), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 07:28 (six years ago) link