2017 end of the year lists

bodak yellow is a good song, sometimes i even find it great. the way the bass hits during some chorus lines is just... *chef kiss*. can't wait until ppl get angry once it shows up somewhere on ilx 77.

every song i don't like is secretly trump-pop btw.

The Jorja Smith song is cool.

"Bodak Yellow" seems like a boringly obvious in-character Pitchfork #1 imo.

this year's most ridiculous pop hit (or "hit" in this case) that inexplicably causes critics to stumble over themselves to praise it is "bad liar". congrats selena.

"Bad Liar" is ok. These 2017 EOYs have large "ok" per capita / notable deficit in bangers per capita.

Wtf "Boys" at #10 xp

I really didn't hear what others did in "Bad Liar". To me the instrumentation sounds like something from one of those peppy advertisements for home loans or private health insurance.

"has an annoying voice" is about as subjective an opinion as anyone can have
i can think of a few things that differentiate cardi and donnie and net worth is not the first one that comes to mind

"Cut To The Feeling" is also kinda just ok and not as good as 90% of her songs from the past 3 years.

I admit the Talking Heads hook was the initial bait that attracted me to Bad Liar, but I barely even register that anymore. It's just so differently constructed than all other song factory pop this year that it holds the creative and sentimental high ground.

on the poppity pop front i would stand up for New Rules, Boys, Love So Soft, anything on Haim's album, Anything on Red Velvet's album
To a lesser extent: Issues, Bodak, Cut to the Feeling, Bad Liar, Slide, How Long (I am embarrassed but i came around to THE PUTH)
I found the Kesha album overrated but I'm not mad at it.
I'm continuing to try to push Akanamali as my fave pop song of the year in the hopes it gets some movement on the ilx 77
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKxFS8L6AlQ

here's my annual songs list. sun-el musician at #36!

http://www.saidthegramophone.com/archives/best_songs_of_2017.php

Yay!

Ooh, love that

The b in bodak stands for boring.

― how's life, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:15 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's a good song

― flopson, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:51 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is it tho 🤔

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, December 11, 2017 1:33 PM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes

nah

― maura, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:35 PM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yah

and it’s certainly more of a reflection of the mindset that turned trump into a viable candidate than an insurgency against the status quo. worthingtons law people

― maura, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:36 PM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

donald trump: new york born reality tv star who is often defended with "well he makes a lot of money, he must be good at something"; brash; self-inflating; revels in humiliating underlings; has an annoying voice
cardi b: new york born reality tv star who defends herself by crowing about her ability to make "money moves"; brash; self-inflating; revels in humiliating underlings ("I'm a boss, you a worker bitch/ I make bloody moves"); has an annoying voice

― maura, Monday, December 11, 2017 4:58 PM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

can't wait until ppl get angry once it shows up somewhere on ilx 77.

i wish lex still posted

If lex doesn't come back for the poll, then why are we even gonna run it

reasonable point

yeah :(

Pitchfork albums:
https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/the-50-best-albums-of-2017/

King Krule only white male in the top 10

Full Pfork list:

50 Yaeji - EP/EP2
49 Open Mike Eagle - Brick Body Kids Still Daydream
48 (Sandy) Alex G - Rocket
47 Kehlani - SweetSexySavage
46 Laurel Halo - Dust
45 Girlpool - Powerplant
44 Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith - The Kid
43 Lil B - Black Ken
42 Vagabon - Infinite Worlds
41 Zola Jesus - Okovi
40 The xx - I See You
39 Fleet Foxes - Crack-Up
38 Drake - More Life
37 Julie Byrne - Not Even Happiness
36 Syd - Fin
35 Playboi Carti - Playboi Carti
34 Mount Kimbie - Love What Survives
33 Kelly Lee Owens - Kelly Lee Owens
32 Lana Del Rey - Lust for Life
31 Kamasi Washington - Harmony of Difference EP
30 Slowdive - Slowdive
29 Run the Jewels - Run the Jewels 3
28 Ibeyi - Ash
27 Future - HNDRXX
26 Jay Som - Everybody Works
25 Priests - Nothing Feels Natural
24 Thundercat - Drunk
23 Big Thief - Capacity
22 St. Vincent - Masseduction
21 Arca - Arca
20 Björk - Utopia
19 Migos - Culture
18 Julien Baker - Turn Out the Lights
17 Charlotte Gainsbourg - Rest
16 Perfume Genius - No Shape
15 Sampha - Process
14 Mount Eerie - A Crow Looked at Me
13 JAY-Z - 4:44
12 LCD Soundsystem - American Dream
11 The War on Drugs - A Deeper Understanding
10 Jlin - Black Origami
9 Fever Ray - Plunge
8 Tyler, the Creator - Flower Boy
7 Vince Staples - Big Fish Theory
6 Moses Sumney - Aromanticism
5 Lorde - Melodrama
4 Kelela - Take Me Apart
3 King Krule - The OOZ
2 SZA - Ctrl
1 Kendrick Lamar - DAMN.

Late Junction's albums of the year 2017

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5BJCPM3tRkrr0Yd10SmgkPK/late-junctions-albums-of-the-year-2017

loving sean's list

was into that Late Junction list before Arca showed up

love that arca album fwiw

not as much as the pan daijing record that's shown up in a couple of lists though. that thing is a blast

love the arca record too

King Krule only white male in the top 10

not to call you out specifically but the representational olympics people do with these lists is so silly to me

yep

Late Junction list seemed to be another 'obscure stuff only' one, then Arca butts in, then Kendrick and Bjork just to make sure haha

n.b. DAMN is one of the albums of the year, I just don't need it in every list :)

xp haha, perhaps

I think it's cool to see traditional biases challenged though, a nice counterpoint to the Ultimate Classic Rock list

both lists are irritating but at least UCR have a limiting remit, pfork are an aggressively editorialised hipster megachurch, in their own way just as conservative as UCR and just as unsurprising

they made good #1 and #2 choices though

Slowdive only number thirty?! I don’t even know Pitchfork anymore.

xp the fact that you find p4k's list predictable does not make the values guiding the selection less important, for comparison here's the 2007 album top 10, equally "predictable" but very different in representation:

10. Burial - Untrue
9. The Field - From Here We Go Sublime
8. Battles - Mirrored
7. Spoon - Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga
6. Animal Collective - Strawberry Jam
5. of Montreal - Hissing Fauna, Are You The Destroyer?
4. Radiohead - In Rainbows
3. M.I.A. - Kala
2. LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver
1. Panda Bear - Person Pitch

and equally irritating! and those are baaaad 1/2 choices haha

NPR: The 50 Best Albums Of 2017

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/12/568400855/the-50-best-albums-of-2017

^^ good list. Quite some albums I'd like to check out.

(is this one of the first EOY lists to have included Kesha?)

and equally irritating!

Really? I don't like everything in the 2017 list but it's *a lot* less obviously head-in-sand than the 2007 one.

*cough*

i meant that the 2007 list was equally irritating! and perhaps even more so, now you mention it

enjoying Circuit Des Yeux fyi

indie list is indie

decent NPR list, Ron Miles album sounds great and the ÌFÉ is very interesting

Most of the records on that 2007 list are really well remembered, though? It's not 'head-in-sand' as much as it's from a genre website, and focuses on that genre. A very white, very male genre. It's kinda interesting that the first poc to top the pitchfork list was Kanye in 2010, but now it's happened 6 out of 8 years this decade. Indie is dead, band music in general is kinda dead, even the indierockers they put on their list is mostly solo acts. It's also old news, and seeing Kendrick top the list for the third time with a not that original album makes me think a backlash could be on the way. That is kinda the most boring choice they could have made.

yeah lists are much better if you top them with some random obscuro shit just to blow minds

I have not heard a single album on that NPR list, damn

yeah lists are much better if you top them with some random obscuro shit just to blow minds

― The Dearth of Stollen (Noodle Vague), 12. december 2017 14:30 (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Or Taylor Swift. Now that would have been a mindfuck!

'boring choices' are the natural result of these sort of consensus lists, and this year wasn't really one for 'event albums' in the way that the last two years had been

it's weird it's like popular things are popular

Pitchfork should have picked an album they never even reviewed, preferably one from 1993. Only available on CD-Rom.

I feel like that Pitchfork list is exactly the kind of list a whole lot of people used to give them shit for years for not producing. There's a lot of stuff on there I personally don't like (and a lot that I do) but the vast majority of those artists are at the very least pretty adventurous and forward-thinking, and taken as a whole it's a group that's going in a lot of different directions (R&B, folk, electronic, hip-hop, etc.).