the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

when you opened and read it did it say they were suckers?

Tracer how certain is any of it (or is the shitty uncertainty the point)

they need to strip to the waist and start a leadership contest already

gaaaaahhhhhhh

is it weird to be cheering for guy verhofstadt to royally fuck over the country in which i love and work?

I felt weird and a bit icky seeing how he pwnd Davis tbh. I'll allow it for today.

in which i love and work

ladies

don't think Davis needs anybody else's help to self-pwn

we've got enough royal fucks as it is also

xps

Dear Foreign,

Although there are almost certainly no grounds to revoke your residency status, we're sending this letter to fuck with your head a bit and remind you of your fucking place.

Best,

Home Office Cunts

We’re certainly not at this point suggesting, much less demanding, that you fuck off, but we are interested in hearing from you about whether you’ve considered it.

5 continuous years seems confirmed by this story:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/12/minister-outlines-how-eu-nationals-will-apply-for-uk-settled-status-brexit

i guess i have 5 years continuous residence PRIOR to my year away. which maybe counts? i have lived and worked and paid taxes and been unable to vote in this country since 2006. my children were born here. i love london. i don't want to leave. but the constantly shifting promises/threats are honestly so fucking infuriating that i feel like uprooting my entire life and retraining in another language just out of spite.

Ahem

Ní úsáidfidh mé teanga an Choróin

Pleasure, as ever, to speak to my friend @guyverhofstadt - we both agreed on the importance of the Joint Report. Let's work together to get it converted into legal text as soon as possible. 1/2

— David Davis (@DavidDavisMP) December 12, 2017

oof!

is this the 7th?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ1n2T-WAAAn0GE.png

Radical SUK 4evah imo

having all those people together will make their eventual arrests much less of a hassle

If you look at this list, appreciate the connections, share the sensibility and the desire to pull our politics back from the edge, please go and lie down in the middle lane of the M25 at teatime

please to share ID of that Tweeter so that I can be prosecuted for posting vile and threatening abuse on the internet

I think that's from my Twitter but I was eyerolling and ranting about it.

I've been saying for ages that this kind of party will happen at some point tbf. its members and supporters will all be vermin, without exception.

It's from Chris Deerin's article here, and it's delusional unworkable fantasy football bollocks but I still sort of feel sorry for Gordon Brown that he didn't make it.

The whole thing feels reheated from this time last year, in any case.

ITS LACK IS UNSUSTAINABLE, NOODLE VAGUE! UNSUSTAINABLE!

(haha, yes, it is from Matt's, though he wasn't the only person hate-sharing it this morning)

I was about to say "the subtext to these things is always that Corbyn is the worst thing that could happen to this country" but then I had a quick glance at that article and it's the whole text

People keep saying this but I don't think our politcos have properly internalised the fact yet that EU people are reading our media.

This quaintly early-C20th notion that they can say one thing in negotiation and another for the audience at home is leading them into a number of (hilarious to me) unforced fuck-ups. Fuck's sake, diplomacy by keysies?

all the xps

- What would these people even agree on beyond a vague 'yay free markets, boo Brexit' stance?
- Why would anyone want to "pull our politics back from the edge" by returning to something that has already led to disaster. Not a hypothetical one, an actual economic disaster that we're all still dealing with?
- Chucking Cameron and Osborne in there suggests that you don't really think austerity was that bad, rather than the cause of the mess we're currently going through
- Imagine what it would do to the electorate to see Major, Blair and Cameron all lining up on the same side. Their respective legacies or what remains of them would be destroyed. All it would do is reinforce the "they're all the same" line that Farage exploited.

It's all bollocks anyway.

always include a war criminal in your list of ideal members for your new party: check

- The LibDems still exist and no one votes for them.

the LibDems are bad and they should feel bad

This quaintly early-C20th notion that they can say one thing in negotiation and another for the audience at home is leading them into a number of (hilarious to me) unforced fuck-ups.

It keeps reminding me of Parker Posey in Josie & The Pussycat, and her inability to keep her "inside voice" inside.

EU people are reading our media

p sure lenin's and bismarck's and napoleon's ppl were also pulling this dastardly stunt tbrr, it's a lesson our upper* echelons seem to have comprehrensively unlearned

*yes lol

I think the whole idea of Macron in France is that he (in theory) is centrism without the horrible baggage of that entire list.

centrism is all horrible baggage

Was gonna say, that sounds more like the whole idea of Macron outside of France; in France he has plenty baggage.

A lot of that is make-up tbf

Clean hit

the english language as an export triumph and a diplomatic problem:
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2017/12/why-guy-verhofstadt-angry-david-davis-because-britain-has-brexit-strategy

actual best sentence:
"When Denis Healey was overseeing the final stages of Britain’s retreat from empire, Aden’s penultimate governor, Richard Turnbull, told him that ultimately the British Empire would be remembered for just two things: the game of association football, and the expression 'Fuck off'."

fuck off and dier

Poll out

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ1uNGzUMAAFWlX.jpg

Lol

not least at the idea that 'this country has worked'

A list of all centrist parties this year:

People starting centrist dad parties on twitter: a brief thread about 2017’s hottest new trend

— Alan White (@aljwhite) December 6, 2017

can't believe there are so many movements based on middle class Tories trying to protect easy access to their holiday gîtes

totally full of gîte are these purveyors of "sensible politics". They need to realise they are actually dead, not good!

or I meant.. good!

so like... these tory rebels - aren't they just as likely to actually stop brexit happening at all if they vote against this?

they always let you down do these tories!

I mean as in are they actually going to live up to the "rebel" tag for once?

When I think of all the dastardly acts that have gone through parliament in the last 7 years, I raise a glass to these moderate "rebels"!

There’s two things - a Brexit deal can be stopped by rebels, but actually stopping Brexit takes a positive act: the govt needs to try to revoke A50, and get the EU’s agreement to its revocation.

The current Tory Party isn’t capable of the second I don’t think, not with its sizeable minority faction still believing a hard crash out is a good/possible thing.