2017 end of the year lists

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awesome, thanks

sleeve, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link

whoa mixmag list looks fun as hell

brimstead, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link

Wow, I bought a fair bit of contemporary classical and jazz this year but I haven't even heard most of the Textura lists. (Eric Hofbauer is my colleague and I saw him do Prehistoric Jazz live, which was really good. Listened to the Nicole Mitchell a couple of times but it didn't fully sink in.)

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link

To those who've heard most of the stuff on these lists (assuming you exist): what's your average play count per album and how much 'older' music have you listened to this year?

pomenitul, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

You're right to add "assuming you exist." I doubt the person who has heard most of the music on all of these lists exists, even on this board.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link

Stereogum - The Best Jazz Albums Of 2017
https://www.stereogum.com/1975242/the-best-jazz-albums-of-2017/franchises/2017-in-review/

ht unperson

faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link

I doubt the person who has heard most of the music on all of these lists exists, even on this board.

― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, December 13, 2017

Of course, of course. But maybe they exist within the confines of a given genre.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link

Is there a sound in jazz more instantly identifiable than Jane Ira Bloom's soprano saxophone?

hmm perhaps, I for one don't even know who she is! (will add that it sounds good and she does seem to have a special tone)

I was always amazed at how in order to gain proper entrance to the jazz world you need to be able to recognize players by their sound, I think personally I might be able to pick out Miles Davis and Thelonius Monk, but that's about it... and I love jazz!

niels, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link

I like Bloom, but I hate that kind of hype-talk. I can tell a few players apart from the pack, but not super-reliably unless they're an incredibly individualistic stylist on the level of, say, Cecil Taylor, where there's absolutely no mistaking them for anyone else.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link

Happy with how nuts our electronic list turned out

https://t.co/1IcrGxHIab

mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link

LOVE the SW album, thanks for reminding me! I have it listed as 2016 but whatever

sleeve, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link

The Jane Ira Bloom album is glorious---unperson, whose column got me to check it out, is no soprano sax stan, to put it mildly---so if he likes it---!

dow, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link

LOVE the SW album, thanks for reminding me! I have it listed as 2016 but whatever

― sleeve, Wednesday, December 13, 2017 12:05 PM (thirty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah it rules

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link

that lanark artefax ep is v appropriately placed

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link

To those who've heard most of the stuff on these lists (assuming you exist): what's your average play count per album and how much 'older' music have you listened to this year?


1000000 plays and I listened to all the older music last year

brimstead, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

"I suspect the lot of you are full of shit"

brimstead, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

lol, i also listened to all the music GIVE ME MORE

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link

wait until feb, I'm sure there'll be a new King Gizzard record

President Keyes, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link

lol, try a week or so

sleeve, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link

The textura list is insane, feels from another planet. I don’t think I’ve even heard about any of the artists in there. I’ll need to do some heavy listening this week.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link

kerrang list (thanks kerr for providing me the scans)

1. Employed to Serve: The Warmth of a Dying Sun
2. Enter Shikari: The Spark
3. Code Orange: Forever
4. Mastodon: Emperor of Sand
5. Converge: The Dusk in Us
6. Foo Fighters: Concrete and Gold
7. Neck Deep: The Peace and the Panic
8. Rise Against: Wolves
9. The Menzingers: After the Party
10. PVRIS: All We Know of Heaven, All We Need of Hell
11. Creeper: Eternity, in Your Arms
12. Can't Swim: Fail You Again
13. AFI: AFI (The Blood Album)
14. Pallbearer: Heartless
15. Higher Power: Soul Structure
16. Frank Carter & The Rattlesnakes: Modern Ruin
17. Marilyn Manson: Heaven Upside Down
18. Chelsea Wolfe: Hiss Spun
19. The Bronx: The Bronx
20. Royal Blood: How Did We Get So Dark?
21. Queens of the Stone Age: Villains
22. Nothing But Thieves: Broken Machine
23. The Darkness: Pinewood Smile
24. Prophets of Rage: Prophets of Rage
25. Deaf Havana: All These Countless Nights
26. The Used: The Canyon
27. Glassjaw: Material Control
28. Power Trip: Nightmare Logic
29. Electric Wizard: Wizard Bloody Wizard
30. Lower Than Atlantis: Safe in Sound
31. Arcane Roots: Melancholia Hymns
32. Asking Alexandria: Asking Alexandria
33. While She Sleeps: You Are We
34. Knuckle Punk: Shapeshifter
35. Myrkur: Mareridt
36. Ohhms: The Fool
37. Papa Roach: Crooked Teeth
38. Stone Sour: Hydrograd
39. At the Drive-in: Interalia
40. HO99O9: United States of Horror
41. Linkin Park: One More Light
42. Manchester Orchestra: A Black Mile to the Surface
43. Thy Art is Murder: Dear Desolation
44. Paramore: After Laughter
45. ONE OK ROCK: Ambitions
46. You Me At Six: Night People
47. Grave Pleasures: Motherblood
48. All Time Low: Last Young Renegade
49. Stray from the Path: Only Death is Real
50. Royal Thunder: Wick

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link

what a bizarre publication

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link

i am listening to this arcane roots record i've never heard of and i think it might be right up simon's alley? mine as well tbh

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link

I look forward to the bafflement that rummaging through these lists will inevitably generate.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

Also… Papa Roach?

pomenitul, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

Dazed & Confused - The 20 best albums of 2017

http://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/38392/1/the-20-best-albums-of-2017

faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:47 (six years ago) link

Vinyl Factory: Our favourite DJs on the tracks that defined the dance floor in 2017

https://thevinylfactory.com/features/favourite-djs-tracks-defined-dance-floor-2017/

faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:53 (six years ago) link

Dazed & Confused - The 20 best K-Pop songs of 2017

http://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/38328/1/the-20-best-k-pop-songs-of-2017

faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link

Anneli Drecker (whose solo album appears on the Textura list) also appears on the excellent Justin Adams album, Ribbons (also from this year). I couldn't get into the solo Drecker album, but maybe I'll try again.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 22:31 (six years ago) link

donald trump: new york born reality tv star who is often defended with "well he makes a lot of money, he must be good at something"; brash; self-inflating; revels in humiliating underlings; has an annoying voice
cardi b: new york born reality tv star who defends herself by crowing about her ability to make "money moves"; brash; self-inflating; revels in humiliating underlings ("I'm a boss, you a worker bitch/ I make bloody moves"); has an annoying voice

― maura, Monday, December 11, 2017 3:58 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I can definitely see this.

My take on "Bodak" is that I understand why people gravitate to it but don't really enjoy it much.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 14 December 2017 01:18 (six years ago) link

i don't remember all the p&j singles winners but this definitely seems to be the year w/ the least obvious #1 in quite a while ... like Bodak Yellow is fine but it feels like it's topping these lists because there just isn't that much competition. (side note to this: I think 3 or 4 songs from DAMN are sort of cannibalizing each other w/r/t 'best songs' lists.)

alpine static, Thursday, 14 December 2017 04:07 (six years ago) link

To those who've heard most of the stuff on these lists (assuming you exist): what's your average play count per album and how much 'older' music have you listened to this year?

This is def not me but I've honestly been finding it hard enough to digest (and even remember) all the music I did get.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 14 December 2017 04:13 (six years ago) link

Another question kinda related to that: how many 2017 albums have people even heard so far this year? I assume that it's gonna be a lot for the professional critics here, but how about everyone else? I've only heard about 40 but I'm gonna plow my way through a whole bunch more before i dare try to make any lists

josh az (2011nostalgia), Thursday, 14 December 2017 04:44 (six years ago) link

Non-critic/non-blogger/non-DJ here. I would say I've heard at least a 100, maybe up 150 or even 200. There are a lot of things I listen to once and then largely forget about.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 14 December 2017 04:55 (six years ago) link

Probably around 180 here, but that used to be higher. Now I have a real job so I have less time for music.

Dinsdale, Thursday, 14 December 2017 06:28 (six years ago) link

who cares how many you've heard, that's fucking absurd, peace

In a slipshod style (Ross), Thursday, 14 December 2017 06:30 (six years ago) link

not about quantity, but quality..?

In a slipshod style (Ross), Thursday, 14 December 2017 06:33 (six years ago) link

https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/the-20-best-rap-albums-of-2017/

1. Kendrick Lamar - DAMN.
2. Vince Staples - Big Fish Theory
3. Tyler, the Creator - Flower Boy
4. JAY-Z - 4:44
5. Migos - Culture
6. Future - HNDRXX
7. Run the Jewels - Run the Jewels 3
8. Playboi Carti - Playboi Carti
9. Drake - More Life
10. Lil B - Black Ken
11. Open Mike Eagle - Brick Body Kids Still Daydream
12. Wiki - No Mountains in Manhattan
13. Chief Keef - Thot Breaker
14. Lil Uzi Vert - Luv Is Rage 2
15. MIKE - May God Bless Your Hustle
16. Kamaiyah - Before I Wake
17. 2 Chainz - Pretty Girls Like Trap Music
18. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - A.I. Youngboy
19. milo - who told you to think??!!?!?!?!
20. Rapsody - Laila’s Wisdom

ArchCarrier, Thursday, 14 December 2017 07:18 (six years ago) link

I haven't heard any!

saer, Thursday, 14 December 2017 07:35 (six years ago) link

unless you count clips, in which case Ive heard 1, the album by Atree (and not just because its by a tree though it played into it a little bit I will concede)

saer, Thursday, 14 December 2017 07:36 (six years ago) link

I have only listened to TQD's "Baked Beans" on a loop all year

The Dearth of Stollen (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 December 2017 07:42 (six years ago) link

oh but i see where you're going with this, how did I know such a thing existed and it is because its by atree but it doesnt totally sit right with me. i think "a tree" is better than "atree" but 'atree' is better than 'Atree', that capitalization is all wrong this listening to albums business is a stressful endeavour and thats before you even get to whatever nonsense may lie within

saer, Thursday, 14 December 2017 07:43 (six years ago) link

think i listen to at least one new album every day at work, many of which i forget ever existed at all, possibly even sometimes while they're actually playing, but maybe 20% of those get saved on my ipod and get a few more plays while i'm moving around doing whatever. also buy probably one new album every week mostly just cos i have a stupid attachment to things and like going to record shops and all that crap, and even though i often forget all about some of those records too, on the whole they get listened to properly at home. so it's somewhere between 50 and 250 depending on what you want to count as listening.

faust apes (NickB), Thursday, 14 December 2017 07:57 (six years ago) link

Cosmopolitan - The 10 Best Albums of 2017

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/music/a9157293/best-albums-of-2017/

faust apes (NickB), Thursday, 14 December 2017 08:02 (six years ago) link

NPR - The 100 Best Songs Of 2017

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/13/568725030/the-100-best-songs-of-2017

faust apes (NickB), Thursday, 14 December 2017 08:07 (six years ago) link

some of these lists are um... like do these people even know who liam gallagher is?

faust apes (NickB), Thursday, 14 December 2017 08:08 (six years ago) link

i keep forgetting about Black Ken

alpine static, Thursday, 14 December 2017 08:10 (six years ago) link

Year-end lists from Die Zeit, divided into the categories "Big Star", "Young Talent", "New Interpretation", "Secret Tip", "Good Entertainment", "Edition, Box Set" and "Musik Book".

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 14 December 2017 08:36 (six years ago) link

npr song list looks p cool!

niels, Thursday, 14 December 2017 09:31 (six years ago) link

XXL: 50 of the Best Hip-Hop Songs of 2017

http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2017/12/best-hip-hop-songs-2017/

faust apes (NickB), Thursday, 14 December 2017 09:50 (six years ago) link


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