POLL Will Tear Us Apart – ILM Artist Poll #86 - JOY DIVISION – New Order solo or other groups Poll (aka the Electronic poll) – a NEW ORDER (#37) supplement poll --- Results Thread

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I love the first Electronic album, but not as much as I love Technique or Closer. I'll take it over Unknown Pleasures with no hesitation.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link

"It's an open act of defiance and it's aimed directly at you" pops up in my head at all kinds of occasions.

That makes my life sound more interesting than it is, but OK.

Substance is the only Joy Division album (not-album) I really really care for.

dorsalstop, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:35 (six years ago) link

Electronic is my favorite album of all time.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:36 (six years ago) link

for anyone interested, Billboard interviewed me for its Substance-at-30 podcast in August.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link

speaking of

Bee OK, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 22:04 (six years ago) link

If not for Technique, Electronic would be my favorite album of all time.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link

Brotherhood is way too low! my second favourite (not including New Order's Substance) too. never understood why it isn't loved more.

the best of Electronic is as great as Technique but I don't really like Idiot Country or Feel Every Beat much

ufo, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 22:23 (six years ago) link

Brotherhood would be higher if people didn't vote for compilations in an album poll. ;)

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 22:31 (six years ago) link

Cool, this thing has started. I only voted in the Joy Division part of this poll.

the future is now, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 23:36 (six years ago) link

closer too low

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 December 2017 00:05 (six years ago) link

i still have never really gotten into closer as a whole

ufo, Thursday, 14 December 2017 00:10 (six years ago) link

get very high then sad, or vice versa

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 December 2017 00:11 (six years ago) link

the first poll upset.

Bee OK, Thursday, 14 December 2017 00:14 (six years ago) link

lol i guess i should’ve voted in the albums poll

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 December 2017 00:15 (six years ago) link

more later, after i post two and one, which will come along sooner rather than later.

Bee OK, Thursday, 14 December 2017 00:15 (six years ago) link

whoa figured that this was a lock for #1. basically a perfect album except for guilty partner

ufo, Thursday, 14 December 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link

and another shocker...

Bee OK, Thursday, 14 December 2017 00:45 (six years ago) link

Fuckin Pitchfork babies

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 December 2017 00:47 (six years ago) link

I love Guilty Partner. One of Bernard’s best lyrics (seriously low bar there). I enjoy the songs that feel the most autobiographical, and this is one of those.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 14 December 2017 00:47 (six years ago) link

Zero number 1 votes.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 14 December 2017 00:47 (six years ago) link

that was crazy and still managed to come in first.

Bee OK, Thursday, 14 December 2017 00:52 (six years ago) link

I should have voted in the albums poll, not sure if it would have made a difference.

the future is now, Thursday, 14 December 2017 00:58 (six years ago) link

Fuckin Pitchfork babies

lol. i had them both in there but Technique was higher.

Bee OK, Thursday, 14 December 2017 01:00 (six years ago) link

Unknown Pleasures and Technique both had 5 number one votes, so that ended up being a draw. Unknown Pleasures did get an extra vote, 12 vs 11, so that is what tipped the scales. Power, Corruption & Lies was on just about ever ballot submitted.

Bee OK, Thursday, 14 December 2017 01:03 (six years ago) link

Album Full Results

16 Albums
16 Ballots

1 Power, Corruption & Lies 596 Points 15 Votes
2 Unknown Pleasures 526 Points 12 Votes 5 #1
3 Technique 504 Points 11 Votes 5 #1
4 Closer 473 Points 11 Votes 1 #1
5 Substance 1987 - New Order 471 Points 11 Votes 3 #1
6 Low-Life 423 Points 11 Votes
7 Substance - Joy Division 405 Points 10 Votes
8 Electronic 322 Points 8 Votes 1 #1
9 Brotherhood 232 Points 6 Votes
10 Movement 163 Points 4 Votes 1 #1
11 Still 120 Points 3 Votes
12 Republic 071 Points 2 Votes
13 Singles (2013) 046 Points 1 Votes
14 The Complete BBC Recordings 040 Points 1 Votes
15 Waiting For The Sirens' Call 036 Points 1 Votes
16 1981-Factus 8-1982 035 Points 1 Votes

Bee OK, Thursday, 14 December 2017 01:28 (six years ago) link

Unknown Pleasures is the best, I think it made up 7/10 of my tracks ballot

crüt, Thursday, 14 December 2017 01:35 (six years ago) link

I will always have a soft spot for Movement. I was the #1. Almost included 1981-1982 but disqualified it due to being an EP and opted for Substance (NO) instead.

lingereffect (Kent Burt), Thursday, 14 December 2017 02:23 (six years ago) link

81-82 EP is the best single piece of vinyl in their entire catalog to me. My favorite New Order thing to listen to is my expanded 81-82 playlist with this EP, plus Ceremony, and tracks from Peel Sessions and Movement.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 14 December 2017 03:11 (six years ago) link

Unknown Pleasures is the best, I think it made up 7/10 of my tracks ballot

6/10 of mine (but I started out higher).

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 14 December 2017 03:13 (six years ago) link

well you don't get a tan like this for nuthin'

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 December 2017 04:36 (six years ago) link

I love Try All You Want so much. It sounds so huge on a big system. It's too bad Kevin Saunderson wasn't asked to remix this one at the time. It has a great bassline.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 14 December 2017 06:05 (six years ago) link

It's interesting that the albums that ended up at 3 & 4 are vastly superior to the ones that ended up at 1 & 2.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 14 December 2017 07:02 (six years ago) link

I'd forgotten that PC&L finished a close second in the New Order poll, so I guess it's not that much of an upset ... but still, ahead of both Technique and Unknown Pleasures? Maybe because it's the perfect bridge between what JD was and what NO would become?

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 14 December 2017 11:00 (six years ago) link

Technique was my #1. PC&L is more uneven, but the highs are pretty high. Your Silent Face", "Leave Me Alone" and "Age of Consent" are all top-10 New Order tracks for me.

dorsalstop, Thursday, 14 December 2017 13:37 (six years ago) link

i' up and ready to go

Bee OK, Thursday, 14 December 2017 18:05 (six years ago) link

New Order Solo or other Groups

Bee OK, Thursday, 14 December 2017 18:05 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lPmTQUggok

20. Didn't Know What Love Was
From: Hot CHip
Featuring: Bernard Sumner (vocals, keyboards, production)
Released: 2010
81 Points, 2 Votes

Bee OK, Thursday, 14 December 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link

i see Stephen Morris is also in the video playing drums but not sure if he is actually on this track. in fact i can't find any information in regards to this track. if anyone knows any history of this track please share.

Bee OK, Thursday, 14 December 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link

that should read:

From: Hot Chip, Bernard Sumner & Hot City

Bee OK, Thursday, 14 December 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sOpbRL8R4g

19. Out of Control
From: The Chemical Brothers
Featuring: Bernard Summer (vocals, guitar)
Released: 11 October 1999

Bee OK, Thursday, 14 December 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link

83 Points, 3 Votes, 1 Number One

Bee OK, Thursday, 14 December 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link

sorry, 2 Votes

I think i need some coffee.

Bee OK, Thursday, 14 December 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link

The music video of the song was directed by W.I.Z.. The video's cast includes actress Rosario Dawson and Michel Brown, and depicts a Mexican conflict between government and EZLN, a revolutionary group that appeared during the 1990s. Then is revealed to be an advertisement for a fictional Coca-Cola-type beverage. The camera pans out to reveal it being displayed in an electronic shop, before the storefront is smashed in and the video ends with shaky night-time footage of violent urban riots, shot on handheld cameras.

Bee OK, Thursday, 14 December 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link

Interesting start and two songs I really don't know.

Blue Room, Thursday, 14 December 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

Unless I've missed something, "Failures", "Komakino", "From Safety To Where", and "As You Said" were the only JD tracks that didn't receive votes (not including pre-1978 Warsaw era demo recordings that were never released on Factory).

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 17 December 2017 08:12 (six years ago) link

Ballot. Next time The Other Two would definitely make it in before the two Twisted Tenderness tracks.

Joy Division tracks:
Transmission
Disorder
Atmosphere
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Decades
Twenty Four Hours
Dead Souls
Isolation
Insight
Passover

Solo or other group - these are all by Electronic:
Some Distant Memory
Get the Message
Reality
Tighten Up
Try All You Want
Getting Away With It
The Patience of a Saint
Idiot Country
Twisted Tenderness
Vivid

Albums
New Order - Technique
New Order - Substance 1987
Joy Division - Substance
New Order - Brotherhood
New Order - Power, Corruption and Lies
Electronic - Electronic
New Order - Low-life

dorsalstop, Sunday, 17 December 2017 10:45 (six years ago) link

my ballot

Twenty Four Hours
The Only Mistake
Decades
Insight
Atmosphere
Something Must Break
Novelty
The Eternal
Transmission
A Means to an End

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 17 December 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link

My ballot

Part One (Joy Division, ranked):

Day of the Lords
New Dawn Fades
Disorder
Shadowplay
Atmosphere
Interzone
She's Lost Control
Wilderness
Digital
A Means To An End

Part Three (albums, ranked):

Unknown Pleasures
Closer
Movement
Power, Corruption & Lies
Substance (Joy Division)
Substance (New Order)

crüt, Sunday, 17 December 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link

My ballot

Twenty Four Hours
Transmission
Heart & Soul
Shadowplay
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Passover
Decades
Disorder
She's Lost Control
Atmosphere

that's not my post, Sunday, 17 December 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

Joy Division:
Transmission
Ceremony
Atmosphere
Insight
Decades
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Isolation
Disorder
Shadowplay
Incubation

Solo etc. (ALL ELECTRONIC)
Some Distant Memory
Idiot Country
Soviet
Gangster
Tighten Up
Disappointed
Patience of a Saint
Get the Message
Getting Away With It
Feel Every Beat

droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 17 December 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link

Wow, great JD results. My ballot:

New Dawn Fades
Twenty-Four Hours
Shadowplay
Candidate
Insight
Disorder
Novelty
Atrocity Exhibition
Day of the Lords
Transmission

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 17 December 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link

I thought "New Dawn Fades" was a fan favourite. I'm a little surprised I was the only #1 vote.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 17 December 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link

It's definitely one of my favorites.

My whole Top 10 made the Top 10, so great results!

1. Transmission
2. Atmosphere
3. New Dawn Fades
4. Shadowplay
5. She's Lost Control
6. Love Will Tear Us Apart
7. Dead Souls
8. Twenty Four Hours
9. Decades
10. Disorder

Thanks for the poll Bee OK!

LeRooLeRoo, Sunday, 17 December 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

JD tracks

1 Disorder Preston 1980
2 She’s lost control Evidently Chickentown/BBC vers
3 Ceremony (Still v)
4 New Dawn Fades (UP vers)
Shadowplay
Isolation
Love will tear
ice age
dead souls
atmosphere

ALBUMS

U Pleasures
Preston 1980
Still
Closer
Les Bains

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 17 December 2017 23:32 (six years ago) link

JD

The eternal
Atmosphere
Decades
Love will tear us apart
Transmission
She's lost control
Isolation
Shadowplay
New Dawn fades
24 hours

OTHER

Electonic - Getting away with it
Disappointed
Get the message
Some distant memory
Idiot country two
Imitation of life
Patience of a saint
Monaco - What do you want from me

ALBUMS

Technique
Electonic
Closer
Power corruption & lies
Low life

i know kore-eda (or something), Sunday, 17 December 2017 23:47 (six years ago) link

1. Love Will Tear Us Apart
2. Shadowplay
3. Ceremony
4. Transmission
5. She's Lost Control
6. Days of the Lords
7. Dead Souls
8. I Remember Nothing
9. Heart and Soul
10. Decades

the future is now, Monday, 18 December 2017 14:27 (six years ago) link

thanks to those who kept the Spotify up to date!

Bee OK, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 00:37 (six years ago) link

Spotify (ILM Joy Division) https://open.spotify.com/user/beeok/playlist/5jWdl7QBLtDJvmhCzw77l2

Albums Full Results

16 Albums
16 Ballots

1 Power, Corruption & Lies 596 Points 15 Votes
2 Unknown Pleasures 526 Points 12 Votes 5 #1
3 Technique 504 Points 11 Votes 5 #1
4 Closer 473 Points 11 Votes 1 #1
5 Substance 1987 - New Order 471 Points 11 Votes 3 #1
6 Low-Life 423 Points 11 Votes
7 Substance - Joy Division 405 Points 10 Votes
8 Electronic 322 Points 8 Votes 1 #1
9 Brotherhood 232 Points 6 Votes
10 Movement 163 Points 4 Votes 1 #1
11 Still 120 Points 3 Votes
12 Republic 071 Points 2 Votes
13 Singles (2013) 046 Points 1 Votes
14 The Complete BBC Recordings 040 Points 1 Votes
15 Waiting For The Sirens' Call 036 Points 1 Votes
16 1981-Factus 8-1982 035 Points 1 Votes

New Order Solo or other Groups Full Results

33 Songs
18 Ballots

1 Getting Away With It - Electronic 753 Points 17 Votes 5 Number Ones
2 Get the Message - Electronic 652 Points 16 Votes 2 Number Ones
3 What Do You Want From Me? - Monaco 395 Points 10 Votes 1 Number One
4 Disappointed - Electronic 366 Points 9 Votes 1 Number One
5 Some Distant Memory - Electronic 352 Points 8 Votes 3 Number Ones
6 Tighten Up - Electronic 346 Points 9 Votes 1 Number One
7 The Patience of a Saint - Electronic 326 Points 9 Votes
8 Gangster - Electronic 275 Points 7 Votes
9 Reality - Electronic 273 Points 7 Votes
10 Idiot Country - Electronic 248 Points 6 Votes (1 vote for "Idiot Country Two" (AKA ultimatum mix))
11 Selfish - The Other Two 182 Points 5 Votes
12 Forbidden City - Electronic 172 Points 5 Votes
13 Try All You Want - Electronic 164 Points 4 Votes 1 Number One
14 For You - Electronic 116 Points 3 Votes
15 Tasty Fish - The Other Two 105 Points 3 Votes
16 Spanish Heart - 808 State 104 Points 3 Votes
17 Feel Every Beat - Electronic 101 Points 3 Votes
18 Dark Angel - Electronic 84 Points 2 Votes 1 Number One
19 Out of Control - The Chemical Brothers 83 Points 2 Votes 1 Number One
20 Don't Know What Love Was - Hot Chip, Bernard Sumner & Hot City 81 Points 2 Votes
21 Soviet - Electronic 75 Points 2 Votes
22 Vivid - Electronic 68 Points 2 Votes
23 Twisted Tenderness - Electronic 67 Points 2 Votes
24 Shoot Speed/Kill Light - Primal Scream (Bernard Sumner (guitar 2000)) 50 Points 1 Vote 1 Number One
25 This Time I'm Not Wrong - Sub Sub feat: Bernard Sumner (vocals, guitar, 1997) 50 Points 1 Vote 1 Number One
26 Love Tempo - Quando Quango 46 Points 1 Vote
27 The Real Thing* - Gwen Stefani 43 Points 1 Vote
28 Elephant Stone (12" version) – The Stone Roses 40 Points 1 Vote
29 Wheels Over Indian Trails - Stanton Miranda 38 Points 1 Vote
30 Imitation of Life - Electronic 36 Points 1 Vote
31 Until the End of Time - Electronic 36 Points 1 Vote
32 Looking From a Hilltop (Megamix) - Section 25 34 Points 1 Vote
33 Freefall - Electronic 33 Points 1 Vote

Joy Division Full Results

26 Ballots
38 Songs

1 Disorder 848 Points 21 Votes 6 Number Ones
2 Transmission 825 Points 19 Votes 5 Number Ones
3 Atmosphere 811 Points 20 Votes 1 Number One
4 Shadowplay 787 Points 20 Votes 1 Number One
5 Twenty Four Hours 661 Points 17 Votes 3 Number Ones
6 Love Will Tear Us Apart 640 Points 16 Votes 3 Number Ones
7 She Lost Control 620 Points 16 Votes 2 Number Ones
8 New Dawn Fades 506 Points 13 Votes 1 Number One
9 Dead Souls 444 Points 12 Votes 1 Number One
10 Decades 425 Points 11 Votes 1 Number One
11 Heart and Soul 351 Points 9 Votes
12 Isolation 323 Points 9 Votes
13 Ceremony 258 Points 6 Votes
14 Digital 252 Points 7 Votes
15 The Eternal 238 Points 6 Votes 1 Number One
16 Day of the Lords 233 Points 6 Votes 1 Number One
17 Atrocity Exhibition 216 Points 6 Votes
18 A Means To An End 197 Points 6 Votes
19 Insight 151 Points 4 Votes
20 These Days 143 Points 4 Votes
21 Passover 135 Points 4 Votes
22 Warsaw 111 Points 3 Votes
23 Something Must Break 104 Points 3 Votes
24 ice age 72 Points 2 Votes
25 Novelty 70 Points 2 Votes
26 Interzone 68 Points 2 Votes
27 Sound of Music 67 Points 2 Votes
28 The Only Mistake 46 Points 1 Vote
29 The Kill 43 Points 1 Vote
30 Candidate 40 Points 1 Vote
31 Exercise One 40 Points 1 Vote
32 autosuggestion 38 Points 1 Vote
33 No Love Lost 35 Points 1 Vote
34 Colony (Peel Session) 34 Points 1 Vote
35 I Remember Nothing 34 Points 1 Vote
36 Wilderness 34 Points 1 Vote
37 leaders of men 33 Points 1 Vote
38 Incubation 32 Points 1 Vote

Bee OK, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 00:41 (six years ago) link

Thanks for running the poll, Bee! This was a fun poll -- I wasn't sure what to expect from such an odd mishmash of mini-polls but the results turned out better than I expected.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 13:11 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

I don't think Bee OK has posted since this poll, sad face.

I watched Control last night and made me think of this poll.

the future is now, Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:50 (six years ago) link


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