Star Wars 8 shit talk

this is a very odd film

sometimes to its benefit, often not

xpost to Morbs : should I even watch his latest ( have it queued up) ?

no idea where the raves are coming from at all, but then i felt the same reading all the 'Rogue One is better tan The Force Awakens' hype last year.

takin the kids tomorrow, hope it's at least alright

how would you rank tfa/tlj/rogue, pisces?

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tfa
tlj
(quite a big gap)
rogue*

*although the Darth chunk at the end of Rogue is still one of the best things i've ever seen.

i will say that this had the single biggest LOL of any Star Wars film; caught me completely off-guard and i was still laughing to myself deep into the following scene. lots of people are saying the lols are not very Star Wars-y, ymmv.

going to stop checking thread until tomorrow evening, but hoping for more lols along the line of “That’s not how the force works!”

Well I laughed out loud at least a dozen times. The audience also applauded about that same number of times at specific moments. Shit delivers.

There are a couple of real shocks in this I didn't see coming at all at least not at the moment they did. And one particular moment you can see coming maybe a minute or two before it does but was still jaw-dropping (it happens in space...sort of...).

My only real ish is with the ending and there are a few red herrings before it but it felt oddly conclusive - nothing like ESB in its final act.

A lot of stuff happens, none of it really matters though

Does *anything* matter

No one I’ve read yet seems to have spotted the (MILD TECHNICAL SPOILER) shot that very cleverly references the tracking shot from the party scene in WINGS yet. Thought it was cute.

yes JV, you should watch Sacred Deer, it's amazing it was even released in a country as humorless as America.

best in the series btw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kJkhEcQ44k

This is an odd beast. Contains probably an equal amount of amazing and cringeworthy moments. Shakes up the formula somewhat, which I appreciated. Guaranteed to piss off nerdboys (a mark in its favor).

this was maybe 2% better than TFA

some interesting stuff on the periphery and a few arresting images, but also a *lot* of dreck.

Wheeeeee

more tomorrow

For now, I’ll just say I’m incredibly stoked for Rian Johnson’s trilogy in this universe, whatever that ends up being.

Some could make the argument that this is just an expensive, intentionally weird exercise in confounding expectations while playing an old popular song backwards, and they wouldn’t be wrong, but they would definitely be missing the point.

not nearly weird enough imo

i liked it. I particularly liked the *spoiler* ironing the jacket shot.

" the party scene in WINGS yet"

what wings? the sitcom?

steven weber shucks with lightsaber?

^^ lol yes that was fantastic

I really liked it, even if it suffered somewhat from Return of the King syndrome, and often it felt like Kyle Ren made decisions just to make them. It wore its emotions on its sleeves a lot more than any other SW film (though some of this might be residual sadness about Carrie Fisher), and I keenly felt the hope and despair of the characters.

It's probably my favorite of the new school Star Wars movies, and I'm worried I'll get whiplash when the series returns to JJ Abrams' shaky hands

Xps the ironing shot was fantastic I mean

"It wore its emotions on its sleeves a lot more than any other SW film (though some of this might be residual sadness about Carrie Fisher)" you mean your sadness? because she wasn't dead when they made it obv

I do wonder if they second guessed any of this after she died. they've certainly set themselves up for a bit of a conundrum in movie 3 now.

Right, i was saying I might have been projecting my sadness about Carrie Fosher, not that there weren't many intentionally emotional moments in the movie itself

I'm guessing this is the Wings tracking shot mentioned above?

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https://youtu.be/d1H699088FI

yes that’s the one, Nate.

*SPOILER* The ironing shot was great - however a lot of the other humour seemed forced. And the "cute" Chewie sidekick that popped up multiple times really was a horrible idea.*SPOILER*

re: humor, some was OK, some felt like Joss Whedon punch-up type shit.

Saw it tonight with my daughters and just LOVED it. Could complain or critique but why, it was a huge fucking spectacle, funny, moving occasionally, irreverent, beautiful even. Simon you sound a little bitter.

fwiw there was no applause in my audience either except at the logo and dedication, so I don't think I was alone inn my nonplussedness

Oh - well none at mine either, but we're Australians, we are a little reticent. Altho now you say it my crew seemed to enjoy it more than most.

" the party scene in WINGS yet"

what wings? the sitcom?

if a tree falls in the forest...

Saw it tonight with my daughters and just LOVED it. Could complain or critique but why, it was a huge fucking spectacle, funny, moving occasionally, irreverent, beautiful even.

This was basically our experience with our kids. They were super into it, and we were v entertained too. And there was a LOT of applause during the film at our screening.

I mean, narratively, the series just gets more and more ridiculous the more times they tell the exact same story (O NO REBEL ALLIANCE IS DOOMED/WAIT THERE'S A NEEDLESSLY COMPLICATED WAY TO SAVE THEM/NO WAIT, THEY'RE STILL DOOMED/BUT WAIT!...) But this one has a legitimately epic sweep, and I like this trilogy's cast. Even if their relatively high level of acting chops just highlights Hamill's hamminess.

hasn't he been doing the Joker voice for 30 years?

Gonna just *SPOILER* away now fuiud.

I would've liked more casino but mostly just because I like to look at all the different alien folk properly.

Phasma was wasted and should've appeared earlier in the film - hope she survived the drop...

The first full shot of Yoda immediately made me wish they'd gone back to a puppet but he looked better in all subsequent shots.

Shame in a way to have so little need for R2 in this.

Snoke (and his guards) just looked fantastic albeit DEAD SO SOON :O

hasn't he been doing the Joker voice for 30 years?

Well yes.

Guaranteed to piss off nerdboys (a mark in its favor).

How are we defining "nerdboys" here, because I'm a con-attending, toy-collecting saddo and I loved it. I especially love that prequel haters have to hear Luke Skywalker say the name "Darth Sidious" on screen AND lampshade the "actually the Jedi were arrogant fuckups" argument that Lucas made after Sith. (BTW I own that R2-D2 button down that HOOS posted and I wear it to the office often.)

Contra Richard Brody I think this was one of the most idiosyncratically directed SW movies! Not just things like the iron joke, but things like the Rashomon flashbacks involving Luke and Kylo Ren, the impressionistic flashes when Luke tells Rey to reach out with the Force, the pacing -- Tombot's description above "intentionally weird exercise in confounding expectations" is pretty accurate, but in a good way!!

Two specific expectation-confounding things I liked were rendering completely irrelevant the "Who is Snoke?" and "Who are Rey's parents?" questions.

Phil cited basically all of the things I liked, besides the lucid action staging/editing and all red everything.

Also BTW does the Dixney/FOX deal mean Disney could put the Fox fanfare back at the front of these movies?

I also like that the middle third of the movie was basically that episode of nu-BSG where the fleet keeps jumping every 33 minutes to try to stay ahead of the Cylons, except they couldn't even do that and had to remain just out of artillery range.

as i posted in the wrong thread -- not bad, but really wish it hadn't been super-over-duper-hyped as OMG BEST EVER

Yeah that was immediately reminiscent of BSG, loved it xp

Having the ground view of the Destroyers suddenly appear in the sky at the start...just one of countless great visuals I need to see again ASAP

Yeah, that was awesome. This statement from io9's spoiler-free review is a pretty decent summary statement:

From scene to scene Johnson is basically saying, “Look, if we can have talking slugs, laser swords, and lightspeed, why can’t I do this?” And then he does it.

And that's true for both good and bad. For every perhaps overly-broad comedy moment ("Could you put on a towel or something?") there's a scene like that or the Empire blithely destroying a medical frigate.

"And the "cute" Chewie sidekick that popped up multiple times really was a horrible idea."

WTF you have no soul