POLL Will Tear Us Apart – ILM Artist Poll #86 - JOY DIVISION – New Order solo or other groups Poll (aka the Electronic poll) – a NEW ORDER (#37) supplement poll --- Results Thread

haha, i did forget about it and i didn't vote for it.

I remember "Disappointed" getting play on my college station that summer as one of the last classic Brit alternative hits before Nirvana rewrote everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRhIAQAiTtY

3. What Do You Want from Me?
By: Monaco
From: Music For Pleasure
Single Released: 24 February 1997
395 Points, 10 Votes, 1 Number One

i was wondering where this one would place. very surprised it ended up at number three, WOW.

here is the US video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhZKh0sXT1s

not on US YOutube:

The music video for the song features group members Peter Hook and David Potts entering a fancy casino along with many other glamorous people, including two women who appear to be with the both of them, plus two gothic-looking characters (male and female), a midget, and a glamorous-looking woman. As Potts plays roulette with a group of people, Hook plays his bass and sings beneath the glass table. Just before the chorus, Hook appears outside and Potts assists in singing the chorus from underneath the glass. Later on, two back-up singers also appear underneath the glass. At another table, a dealer hands Hook some cards. He sneaks a peek at them as he sings. When he wins, the midget, along with many other people, appear at the table. The midget jumps up and down, cheering. The band then appear in a white room performing the song and also at what appears to be the front of the casino. The guests continue to enjoy themselves and the glamorous looking woman who entered with the midget throws something away in the trash. The midget appears in another part of the casino playing the featured piano solo while the gothic-looking man sits with the gothic-looking woman. He gestures to her as if to say he needs to be excused and goes off with the glamorous-looking woman as his former date looks on. Later on, a man grabs a woman's behind and she shoos him away while the back-up singers sing in to a microphone in another part of the casino. A woman kisses the midget on the head and another man has a drink poured on him by a woman as the band continues to play in the white room. At the end, the four women featured in the video leave the hotel smiling and Hook and Potts follow them out.

i'm trying

my spacing sucked today, usually i'm a lot more uniformed.

are we ready?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7sVSSb2mU4

2. Get The Message
By: Electronic
From: Electronic
Single Released: April 15, 1991
652 Points, 16 Votes, 2 Number Ones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSfjtdnUsls

1. Getting Away with It
By: Electronic
From: Electronic
Single Released: December 4, 1989
753 Ppints, 17 Votes, 5 Number Ones

hope you had fun?

"Get the Message" -- god

Two music videos were made for "Getting Away with It". The first, directed by Chris Marker and produced by Michael Shamberg for European use in 1989, featured Sumner, Marr and Tennant in a studio environment miming to the single edit of the song. Additional footage of Marker's muse Catherine Belkhodja, strolling among peacocks through Paris Zoo and also singing to the track, was left out. The second, shot in 1990, was made for the US release. Sumner and Tennant appeared, alternately, against a series of coloured background, with artistic effects superimposed. Two women's faces are also panned in close-up.

other one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svz0USluN50

"Getting Away With It" sounds too much like "Love My Way" for me to fully engage with it

Solo or other Groups Full Results

33 Songs
18 Ballots

1 Getting Away With It - Electronic 753 Points 17 Votes 5 Number Ones
2 Get the Message - Electronic 652 Points 16 Votes 2 Number Ones
3 What Do You Want From Me? - Monaco 395 Points 10 Votes 1 Number One
4 Disappointed - Electronic 366 Points 9 Votes 1 Number One
5 Some Distant Memory - Electronic 352 Points 8 Votes 3 Number Ones
6 Tighten Up - Electronic 346 Points 9 Votes 1 Number One
7 The Patience of a Saint - Electronic 326 Points 9 Votes
8 Gangster - Electronic 275 Points 7 Votes
9 Reality - Electronic 273 Points 7 Votes
10 Idiot Country - Electronic 248 Points 6 Votes (1 vote for "Idiot Country Two" (AKA ultimatum mix))
11 Selfish - The Other Two 182 Points 5 Votes
12 Forbidden City - Electronic 172 Points 5 Votes
13 Try All You Want - Electronic 164 Points 4 Votes 1 Number One
14 For You - Electronic 116 Points 3 Votes
15 Tasty Fish - The Other Two 105 Points 3 Votes
16 Spanish Heart - 808 State 104 Points 3 Votes
17 Feel Every Beat - Electronic 101 Points 3 Votes
18 Dark Angel - Electronic 84 Points 2 Votes 1 Number One
19 Out of Control - The Chemical Brothers 83 Points 2 Votes 1 Number One
20 Don't Know What Love Was - Hot Chip, Bernard Sumner & Hot City 81 Points 2 Votes
21 Soviet - Electronic 75 Points 2 Votes
22 Vivid - Electronic 68 Points 2 Votes
23 Twisted Tenderness - Electronic 67 Points 2 Votes
24 Shoot Speed/Kill Light - Primal Scream (Bernard Sumner (guitar 2000)) 50 Points 1 Vote 1 Number One
25 This Time I'm Not Wrong - Sub Sub feat: Bernard Sumner (vocals, guitar, 1997) 50 Points 1 Vote 1 Number One
26 Love Tempo - Quando Quango 46 Points 1 Vote
27 The Real Thing* - Gwen Stefani 43 Points 1 Vote
28 Elephant Stone (12" version) – The Stone Roses 40 Points 1 Vote
29 Wheels Over Indian Trails - Stanton Miranda 38 Points 1 Vote
30 Imitation of Life - Electronic 36 Points 1 Vote
31 Until the End of Time - Electronic 36 Points 1 Vote
32 Looking From a Hilltop (Megamix) - Section 25 34 Points 1 Vote
33 Freefall - Electronic 33 Points 1 Vote

Loving this.

Here's the amazing extended version of "Getting Away With It"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KflzQYOaf1I

Just spun the Unknown Pleasures LP. It still sounds so good. I actually feel like there's something oddly warm and comforting about it.

From: Songs from the "Cool World" Soundtrack
Released: June 22, 1992

this is from the Disappointed single, which came out before the Cool World film or (presumably) soundtrack

Cool results! 'Getting Away With It' is possibly my favourite song of all time.

I need to revisit the first Electronic album, I've only heard it in full a couple of times.

Selfish is the best St Etienne track never released.

I was waiting until the poll results to say the same thing ... "Selfish" could have been a minor classic along the lines of "Avenue" if St. Etienne had recorded it, rather than the nearly forgotten second single by the Other Two.

"What Do You Want From Me?" was my #1. Like "Regret" or "Crystal", it's catchy and propulsive from the opening notes and is immediately recognizable as New Order (even though it isn't). It also has one of the few great Peter Hook vocals outside of "Dreams Never End".

Getting Away With It is such a perfect song, glad to see it win. I love Reality, Gangster, and Some Distant memory so much too.

haha i used to love that monaco track

"Some Distant Memory" was my #1, for reasons mentioned upthread, and I also didn't think there were others who felt as strongly about it as I do. I completely forgot about "Spanish Heart", which is great, and don't think I'd ever consciously heard anything by The Other Two. Thanks to this poll I'll check those records out asap, because *both* these tracks sound like Saint Etienne trying to do their version of "Bizarre Love Triangle" - total catnip to me.

I'm still as unimpressed by Raise The Pressure as I was then, though.

The studio version of "Getting Away With It" was the version shown on MuchMusic. I wonder why the US needed a different video? I mean, it couldn't get better than Barney's shirt in that one.

Stephen & Gillian both play in the Stanton Miranda track that only I voted for. Recommended. They also played on & produced the first album by Miranda's project Thick Pigeon which is pretty good.

the main event

Top 20

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20. These Days
143 Points, 4 Votes

collaborated playlist, please help me keep up (I<M Joy Division):

https://open.spotify.com/user/beeok/playlist/5jWdl7QBLtDJvmhCzw77l2

Ian Riese-Moraine Joy Division?

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19. Insight
151 Points, 4 Votes

This one is a long-time favourite for me. Surprised it's not higher.

my no. 4

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18. A Means to an End
197 Points, 6 Votes

too low, though i guess i put it at the end of my ballot. my first favorite joy division song, i.e. the first moment on closer where i wasn't completely baffled

I find it kinda stodgy.

(I was a bit baffled and didn't pay enough attention to vote. Apols.)

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17. Atrocity Exhibition
216 Points, 6 Votes

Love both of these but they didn't make my ballot (could easily have ended up voting for all of Closer).

this was my number three, so powerful and what a way to start an album.

Hannett's production has been highly praised, with Pitchfork describing it as "sepulchral".[7] However, as with their debut album Unknown Pleasures, both Hook and Sumner were unhappy with Hannett's work. Hook said that "Atrocity Exhibition" was mixed on one of his days off, and when he heard the final product was disappointed that the abrasiveness of his guitar part had been laden with effects and toned down. He wrote; "I was like, head in hands, oh fucking hell, its happening again. Unknown Pleasures number two...Martin [Hannett] had melted the guitar with his Marshall Time Waster. Made it sound like somebody strangling a cat, and to my mind, absolutely killed the song. I was so annoyed with him and went in and gave him a piece of my mind but he just turned around and told me to fuck off"

Bassist Peter Hook and guitarist Bernard Sumner swapped instruments when writing and recording the track; according to Hook, they "were bored writing on our instruments so we just thought let's swap. Barney played bass and I played guitar. I was nowhere as proficient a guitarist as him, mind you, but I liked the way it sounds. Great riff, great bass too.

hannett otm

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16. Day of the Lords
233 Points, 6 Votes, 1 Number One

this might turn out to be my last poll...

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15. The Eternal
238 Points, 6 Votes, 1 Number One

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14. Digital
252 Points, 7 Votes

day of the lords just missed my ballot. it was really great rediscovering how much i like unknown pleasures

"Digital" was recorded in the band's first session with Martin Hannett as producer. Recording took place at Cargo Studios in Rochdale, Lancashire on 11 October 1978.

It was the last song ever performed by Joy Division, as it was the final song of the last gig recorded on 2nd May 1980 at Birmingham University.