POLL Will Tear Us Apart – ILM Artist Poll #86 - JOY DIVISION – New Order solo or other groups Poll (aka the Electronic poll) – a NEW ORDER (#37) supplement poll --- Results Thread

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Ian Riese-Moraine Joy Division?

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Friday, 15 December 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link

This one is a long-time favourite for me. Surprised it's not higher.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 15 December 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link

my no. 4

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 15 December 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link

too low, though i guess i put it at the end of my ballot. my first favorite joy division song, i.e. the first moment on closer where i wasn't completely baffled

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 15 December 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link

I find it kinda stodgy.

(I was a bit baffled and didn't pay enough attention to vote. Apols.)

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link

Love both of these but they didn't make my ballot (could easily have ended up voting for all of Closer).

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link

this was my number three, so powerful and what a way to start an album.

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link

Hannett's production has been highly praised, with Pitchfork describing it as "sepulchral".[7] However, as with their debut album Unknown Pleasures, both Hook and Sumner were unhappy with Hannett's work. Hook said that "Atrocity Exhibition" was mixed on one of his days off, and when he heard the final product was disappointed that the abrasiveness of his guitar part had been laden with effects and toned down. He wrote; "I was like, head in hands, oh fucking hell, its happening again. Unknown Pleasures number two...Martin [Hannett] had melted the guitar with his Marshall Time Waster. Made it sound like somebody strangling a cat, and to my mind, absolutely killed the song. I was so annoyed with him and went in and gave him a piece of my mind but he just turned around and told me to fuck off"

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link

Bassist Peter Hook and guitarist Bernard Sumner swapped instruments when writing and recording the track; according to Hook, they "were bored writing on our instruments so we just thought let's swap. Barney played bass and I played guitar. I was nowhere as proficient a guitarist as him, mind you, but I liked the way it sounds. Great riff, great bass too.

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

hannett otm

new noise, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

this might turn out to be my last poll...

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link

day of the lords just missed my ballot. it was really great rediscovering how much i like unknown pleasures

ufo, Friday, 15 December 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link

"Digital" was recorded in the band's first session with Martin Hannett as producer. Recording took place at Cargo Studios in Rochdale, Lancashire on 11 October 1978.

It was the last song ever performed by Joy Division, as it was the final song of the last gig recorded on 2nd May 1980 at Birmingham University.

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link

Just got here. None of my votes showed up yet, though it was hard leaving "Atrocity Exhibition" off my ballot. I realized while voting that I loved Closer more as an album than individual tracks.

LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 15 December 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link

my #2 but understandable that not everyone voted for it

ufo, Friday, 15 December 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link

"Ceremony" was one of the last Joy Division songs to be composed, with lyrics written by Ian Curtis. There are three recorded versions by Joy Division in existence. The first is a live version, available on the Still album, from their final concert at High Hall, Birmingham University on 2 May 1980. The second, available on the Heart and Soul four-disc box set, is from a studio session on 14 May 1980,[4] four days before Curtis's suicide. It was the band's last recording. The third is a version recorded at the soundcheck on the afternoon of 2 May 1980 (along with "Decades") and is only available on bootleg. In all recordings, the vocals are only partially audible.

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link

"digital"!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:57 (six years ago) link

Isolation is so fantastic. I really like the version New Order started doing in 1998 as well, one of their best reworks of a Joy Division track

ufo, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link

Bassist Peter Hook said the ending of "Isolation" came as the serendipitous result of Martin Hannett's efforts to rescue the original master tape from a botched edit by a junior sound engineer.

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:23 (six years ago) link

I like that song but I always had a problem with the way Ian Curtis sings the chorus off key most of the time.

LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link

Ha, when I heard Unknown Pleasures in a coffeeshop over the summer, it really hit me that he sounds like he's in a different key than the band much of the time. It still manages to work for me (maybe because of this?).

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 15 December 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link

so powerful but didn't crack my Top 10.

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:47 (six years ago) link

the drumming in this song is such a highlight.

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:47 (six years ago) link

the somewhat off key vocals bug me a lot more on Closer than Unknown Pleasures for some reason

ufo, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link

Top 10

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 23:00 (six years ago) link

decades is a fucking unreal song

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 15 December 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link

the somewhat off key vocals bug me a lot more on Closer than Unknown Pleasures for some reason

I think they're actually key to what affected me about Joy Division in the first place. Like, if he sang like Bono or someone, I don't think it would have worked the same way. I've never really analysed how or why, though. Probably something I should attempt.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 15 December 2017 23:19 (six years ago) link

Just catching up, voted "Decades" as my number ten too.

the future is now, Friday, 15 December 2017 23:23 (six years ago) link

Solid track. Just missed my ballot.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 15 December 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link

"Day of the Lords" def made it, though.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 15 December 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link

"Someone take these dreams away
That point me to another day"

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 23:36 (six years ago) link

i just been reminded of the Nine Inch Nail's version of this song: https://youtu.be/sDHqywS6un0

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 23:38 (six years ago) link

:New Dawn Fades" opens with a backwards and heavily modified sample from previous song "Insight", presumably added by Martin Hannett, post-production. The song relies on an ascending guitar riff by Bernard Sumner played against a descending bass riff by Peter Hook. The song uses the same progression throughout, but grows in intensity as the song progresses, reaching its peak with Ian Curtis singing "Me, seeing me this time, hoping for something else", and ending with a guitar solo. The song closes side one of Unknown Pleasures. It's also one of few Joy Division songs with two distinct guitars playing, one distorted and one a clean electric guitar picking notes from the guitar chords.

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 December 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link

"New Dawn Fades" has been featured in several films. In the 1995 film Heat, an instrumental version of Moby's cover plays during the car chase leading up to Al Pacino's and Robert De Niro's first on-screen meeting. It was also used in the 2005 remake of House of Wax, and a live version was featured in the 2006 Academy Award nominee Reprise. An instrumental version was produced by Christopher Drake on the Batman Year One Soundtrack. It was most-recently used in the soundtrack for Antoine Fuqua's 2014 movie, The Equalizer, starring Denzel Washington. It's in the soundtrack of ACAB - All Cops Are Bastards.

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 December 2017 00:10 (six years ago) link

and "New Dawn Fades" did make my ballot.

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 December 2017 00:13 (six years ago) link

over 100 point jump

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 December 2017 00:22 (six years ago) link

Two separate recordings of the song have been released: the version appearing on the band's debut album, and an extended, more electronic version was released in 1980 as a 12" single.[4] This 12" single version contains an additional verse not present on the initial version of the song, and was recorded in March 1980 at Strawberry Studios, Stockport, making this song one of the last studio recordings recorded by the band prior to the May 1980 suicide of their lead singer, Ian Curtis. On the US release of the 12" single, "She's Lost Control" appeared as the A-side (with "Atmosphere" as the B-side), as opposed the UK version, where the song appeared as the B-side to "Atmosphere"

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 December 2017 00:27 (six years ago) link


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