POLL Will Tear Us Apart – ILM Artist Poll #86 - JOY DIVISION – New Order solo or other groups Poll (aka the Electronic poll) – a NEW ORDER (#37) supplement poll --- Results Thread

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new noise, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

this might turn out to be my last poll...

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link

day of the lords just missed my ballot. it was really great rediscovering how much i like unknown pleasures

ufo, Friday, 15 December 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link

"Digital" was recorded in the band's first session with Martin Hannett as producer. Recording took place at Cargo Studios in Rochdale, Lancashire on 11 October 1978.

It was the last song ever performed by Joy Division, as it was the final song of the last gig recorded on 2nd May 1980 at Birmingham University.

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link

Just got here. None of my votes showed up yet, though it was hard leaving "Atrocity Exhibition" off my ballot. I realized while voting that I loved Closer more as an album than individual tracks.

LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 15 December 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link

my #2 but understandable that not everyone voted for it

ufo, Friday, 15 December 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link

"Ceremony" was one of the last Joy Division songs to be composed, with lyrics written by Ian Curtis. There are three recorded versions by Joy Division in existence. The first is a live version, available on the Still album, from their final concert at High Hall, Birmingham University on 2 May 1980. The second, available on the Heart and Soul four-disc box set, is from a studio session on 14 May 1980,[4] four days before Curtis's suicide. It was the band's last recording. The third is a version recorded at the soundcheck on the afternoon of 2 May 1980 (along with "Decades") and is only available on bootleg. In all recordings, the vocals are only partially audible.

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link

"digital"!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:57 (six years ago) link

Isolation is so fantastic. I really like the version New Order started doing in 1998 as well, one of their best reworks of a Joy Division track

ufo, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link

Bassist Peter Hook said the ending of "Isolation" came as the serendipitous result of Martin Hannett's efforts to rescue the original master tape from a botched edit by a junior sound engineer.

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:23 (six years ago) link

I like that song but I always had a problem with the way Ian Curtis sings the chorus off key most of the time.

LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link

Ha, when I heard Unknown Pleasures in a coffeeshop over the summer, it really hit me that he sounds like he's in a different key than the band much of the time. It still manages to work for me (maybe because of this?).

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 15 December 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link

so powerful but didn't crack my Top 10.

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:47 (six years ago) link

the drumming in this song is such a highlight.

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:47 (six years ago) link

the somewhat off key vocals bug me a lot more on Closer than Unknown Pleasures for some reason

ufo, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link

Top 10

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 23:00 (six years ago) link

decades is a fucking unreal song

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 15 December 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link

the somewhat off key vocals bug me a lot more on Closer than Unknown Pleasures for some reason

I think they're actually key to what affected me about Joy Division in the first place. Like, if he sang like Bono or someone, I don't think it would have worked the same way. I've never really analysed how or why, though. Probably something I should attempt.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 15 December 2017 23:19 (six years ago) link

Just catching up, voted "Decades" as my number ten too.

the future is now, Friday, 15 December 2017 23:23 (six years ago) link

Solid track. Just missed my ballot.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 15 December 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link

"Day of the Lords" def made it, though.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 15 December 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link

"Someone take these dreams away
That point me to another day"

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 23:36 (six years ago) link

i just been reminded of the Nine Inch Nail's version of this song: https://youtu.be/sDHqywS6un0

Bee OK, Friday, 15 December 2017 23:38 (six years ago) link

:New Dawn Fades" opens with a backwards and heavily modified sample from previous song "Insight", presumably added by Martin Hannett, post-production. The song relies on an ascending guitar riff by Bernard Sumner played against a descending bass riff by Peter Hook. The song uses the same progression throughout, but grows in intensity as the song progresses, reaching its peak with Ian Curtis singing "Me, seeing me this time, hoping for something else", and ending with a guitar solo. The song closes side one of Unknown Pleasures. It's also one of few Joy Division songs with two distinct guitars playing, one distorted and one a clean electric guitar picking notes from the guitar chords.

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 December 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link

"New Dawn Fades" has been featured in several films. In the 1995 film Heat, an instrumental version of Moby's cover plays during the car chase leading up to Al Pacino's and Robert De Niro's first on-screen meeting. It was also used in the 2005 remake of House of Wax, and a live version was featured in the 2006 Academy Award nominee Reprise. An instrumental version was produced by Christopher Drake on the Batman Year One Soundtrack. It was most-recently used in the soundtrack for Antoine Fuqua's 2014 movie, The Equalizer, starring Denzel Washington. It's in the soundtrack of ACAB - All Cops Are Bastards.

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 December 2017 00:10 (six years ago) link

and "New Dawn Fades" did make my ballot.

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 December 2017 00:13 (six years ago) link

over 100 point jump

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 December 2017 00:22 (six years ago) link

Two separate recordings of the song have been released: the version appearing on the band's debut album, and an extended, more electronic version was released in 1980 as a 12" single.[4] This 12" single version contains an additional verse not present on the initial version of the song, and was recorded in March 1980 at Strawberry Studios, Stockport, making this song one of the last studio recordings recorded by the band prior to the May 1980 suicide of their lead singer, Ian Curtis. On the US release of the 12" single, "She's Lost Control" appeared as the A-side (with "Atmosphere" as the B-side), as opposed the UK version, where the song appeared as the B-side to "Atmosphere"

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 December 2017 00:27 (six years ago) link

The composition of "She's Lost Control" centres upon Peter Hook's bassline, played high up on the neck, and a mechanistic drum beat played by Stephen Morris. For the song's recording, each drum was recorded completely separately, as producer Martin Hannett obsessively pursued clean drum sounds with no "bleed through" (when one drum's sound is added to the signal of another drum unintentionally) on songs he considered potential singles.

Live, this song would be played at a faster pace than that upon the album, and much more aggressively, with Curtis often shouting the lyrics before the bridge sections. The syndrum used upon live performances of this song would often be more abrasive and louder in the mix than that used upon the studio recordings. On later live recordings, Curtis would play a keyboard line during the coda, one of only a few songs on which he would play an instrument.

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 December 2017 00:28 (six years ago) link

Curtis primarily drew the lyrical inspiration for "She's Lost Control" from a young woman he met while working at a Macclesfield occupational rehabilitation centre between 1978 and 1979. The woman had epilepsy and had been desperate to find employment, yet she suffered seizures whenever she came to the exchange, which would greatly disturb Curtis. At one stage, this young woman ceased attending her appointments at the occupational rehabilitation centre. Initially, Curtis assumed she had found a job, but he would later discover she had died of an epileptic seizure.

Her unexpected death and Curtis's subsequent awareness and experiences of the stigma endured by individuals suffering from neurological impairments formed the lyrical inspiration for the song.

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 December 2017 00:31 (six years ago) link

wow!

Curtis would later inform his wife he had been informed this woman had choked to death in her sleep as a result of an epileptic seizure. Consequently, one of Ian Curtis's greatest fears was his dying in his sleep as a result of an epileptic seizure. Due to this fear, he and his wife would establish a ritual whereby, upon evenings following a Joy Division gig in which Curtis did not experience an epileptic seizure, Ian would either sit in a chair and wait for an epileptic seizure to occur in his wife's presence, or lie in bed with his wife as both listened in silence, to await a change in his breathing rhythm (which would signal an impending seizure), in order that his wife could help him, before he would sleep.

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 December 2017 00:32 (six years ago) link

"New Dawn Fades" was my #1. Still flows so well and feels so powerful.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 16 December 2017 00:36 (six years ago) link

https://youtu.be/xqHF3hdxz_M

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 December 2017 00:55 (six years ago) link

Unpopular opinion - I'm sick to death of "Dead Souls." Never want to hear it again.

Only one of my votes has charted yet (Atrocity Exhibition). I guess I prefer different things from JD than most of you.

lingereffect (Kent Burt), Saturday, 16 December 2017 00:57 (six years ago) link

i give up

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 December 2017 01:07 (six years ago) link

tomorrow will be the Top 6

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 December 2017 01:07 (six years ago) link

i still have yet to watch "Control" going to try now:

https://youtu.be/japVdQlB5wE

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 December 2017 01:08 (six years ago) link

I hasten to add that I do like most of these songs a lot, but not top 10.

lingereffect (Kent Burt), Saturday, 16 December 2017 01:28 (six years ago) link

I thought this was going to finish tonight.

the future is now, Saturday, 16 December 2017 02:28 (six years ago) link


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