Star Wars 8 shit talk

the other reason I know this movie was good is because it pissed off the right fanboys: people who simply just wanted another Star Wars movie that hit the exact same beats as the ones before it, nerds who just wanted more easy fanfic like TFA (which don't get me wrong, I loved). Don't get me wrong, I loved Rogue One, but - as good as it was, it was a movie that had no point existing. Everybody knew what was going to happen more or less, it just had to have the blanks filled in.

A lotta nerds wanted the Snoke and Rey mysteries to be these big, shocking reveals, including me going in, but that isn't ever what Star Wars did best so I'm actually happier they weren't. Empire was already a killer movie before the "I am your father" moment - that just elevated it. Rey's realization is a net positive - she doesn't have a legacy to uphold or adhere to. Her purpose in the conflict is her own to decide, rather than being prescribed to her like Luke's was laid out for him.

In the original trilogy, the Empire was the old guard, with aging veterans like the Emperor, Tarkin, and Vader eventually being overwhelmed by fresh, driven new blood in the Rebel Alliance. Here, the roles are reversed - the Resistance's leadership is filled with aging, fatigued ex-Alliance members, whereas the First Order is lead by hungry, fired up young men. Kylo sees this as necessary, that the previous generations have run their course, and its time for his to lead. His move makes perfect sense. Kylo doesn't like to kneel before authority - he wants to *be* the authority. He doesn't like being manipulated.

I also like how Rey confuses Kylo's conflict for sympathy for her cause. He adores *her*, and he still has a hard time with being the closed off, ruthless killer like his grandfather was, but he still believes the Resistance is scum.

The side missions all fail because Holdo had the right answer to the problem all along - and Rey, Finn, Poe all learn from their failures in a way that makes them stronger at the end of the movie despite being thinner in ranks.

anywho..going again today.

The world-building was great. Loved the casino-planet scene and Luke's hermit planet.

Praetorian guards are badass. What can I say?

it was funny when they started busting moves.. like a beefeater suddenly throwing off his cloak and flexing a kung fu stance

it was really the time for Star Wars-themed Wu-Tang music

those are all good points neanderthal!

especially the wu-tang one

I have to admit I've been to the Star Wars toy aisle a few times this week, playing it off like "I'm looking for my kid" (I don't have kids).

yeah i like your generational take, Neanderthal, it feels right and true to the movie

once again i didn't like any of the humanoid character CGI. it just looked like cartoons. snoke's scariness in particular suffers imo because a subconscious part of your brain knows he's simply not real. as the tech gets better, say 5-10 years out, large chunks of this movie will look v embarrassing

I feel like Snoke was just an ex-Senator who had a botched plastic surgery

My Snoke backstory of choice is he’s an Order 66 survivor who went bad in exile

it was def nice to see puppet yoda back in action (even if he did look a little... off in his first few shots)

still sticking with my ‘snoke is an insane shaved ewok’ theory

something so weird about andy serkis locking up every cgi job going. nobody else could have done that? they had to pay serkis rates?

biggest disappointment -- where are the knights of ren? i was promised knights of ren!

also regarding rey's parentage -- do we trust a knight of ren to be honest?

not i!

speaking of mocap, apparently mark hamill played the drunk little alien that keeps pumping change into bb8 xxp

good point about the knights of ren! rian johnson says the first cut of the movie ran over three hours so maybe they've hit the cutting room floor again

Lol yea its like two movies no knights

IMO the 9th film is gonna say the previous 8 films were a coma patients slumber dream

Don't get me wrong, I loved Rogue One,

no let me get you wrong!

it was def nice to see puppet yoda back in action (even if he did look a little... off in his first few shots)

Wait that wasn't CGI? Damn

p sure the first shot of him was CGI, and a few subsequent ones too

hard to tell if the first shot was or it was just because of the glowing haze. I've seen it twice and can't tell. when he's wiggling around and sitting down it definitely the puppet though.

"Apparently JGL voiced a character."

who is that?

http://www.slashfilm.com/joseph-gordon-levitt-has-a-cameo-in-star-wars-the-last-jedi/

ah. I was trying to figure out who JGL was and all I could come up with was Jennifer Gason Leigh

totally re watching Rogue One tonight. Star Wars is great innit?

jean guc lodard

cgi porgs were lame too. if they'd figured out how to do it practically it could have been great. i did appreciate a "lone chewie thinkin' baout things" moment tho

most of the porgs were puppets I believe

not that that excuses them

I like how in Luke’s fantasy oh himself at the end his hair is a lot less grey

yeah when he pulled off his hood at the end i was like ‘wtf I guess he stopped off for some grecian 2000 and a quick haircut on the way’

Also blue lightsaber. Spent too much of that scene internally spluttering "but that's the wrong lightsaber!" before I realised what might be going on

what is wrong with you porg haters

The porgs got a huge positive reaction in the theatre. But I suspect everyone else hated them

The Porgs were a harmless diversion.

Not having Han helped this movie

guess I'll read Chewie and the Porgs by myself then

https://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Last-Chewie-Porgs/dp/1484780760

He eats live Porgs

Thats why they call him Chewie

he shoves them up his hairy ass Richard Gere style

The main Rebel ship looked kinda like a giant dingleberry

if I were to venture a guess about the JGL voice it's probably the Canto Bight alien who reports the ship parked on the beach.

More aliens should have Baltimore accents

Kelly Marie Tran below Gwendolyn Christie in the credits is some astonishing bullshit. That’s pretty much my only complaint.

Agree. Phasma was just a cameo. KMT was great

Kind of amazed Phasma wasnt executed for what she did at the end of TFA

wonder if she’ll turn up to get owned yet again in the next one

stop trying to make Captain Phasma happen tbh (that just autocorrected to uppercase on my iPhone wtf)

he shoves them up his hairy ass Richard Gere style

Seeing this in 4D is fun if u have that near u

Also liked Luke's explicit references to events from the prequels

Kelly Marie Tran below Gwendolyn Christie in the credits is some astonishing bullshit.

wait waht that is bullshit

tran was so great - just instantly likeable and principled and charismatic. i hope she gets a lot of work off the back of this

Apparently the JGL-voiced character is called Slowen Lo