Rolling Metal Thread 2009

are you trying to recommend it to us

um so if this show in any form gets to your town, GO!

both Krallice and WITTR were fucking top notch, unbelievable show A++++++

empires and zebulon pike were great as well, but fairly sure they were just a TC option

Hmm Moonsorrow and Primordial were both excellent, but also heavy on the pomp and cheese factors. Korpiklaani... I just don't get it.

Also, I'm liking the H&H record a lot. It's certainly true that it could have been faster, but given the non-shortage of other, faster, bands, I think their decision to go heavy is just fine. That plus the new Candlemass is a good year in old-school metal in just two albums...

I think the new Candlemass outclasses the H&H by a considerable margin.

Korpiklaani... I just don't get it.

They're so much fun, the crowd on Monday just ate it up. Though like someone else said, their bassist looks uncannily like a garden gnome.

I just bought the double LP H&H. Must compare it to Candlemass side by side, but there are definitely some lyrics on Death Magic Doom that are as silly as anything Dio ever wrote.

My Q&A with Marduk guitarist Morgan Hakansson.

Nice. I'm way more excited to see Marduk than Mayhem.

UGH

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7319/boneawlcompflyer02.jpg

It's not the band who made the flyer btw, its some stupid kid on viva la vinyl who made it. Not a bright idea.

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horsefacekillah2 posted this on May 20th, 2009 @ 10:09:26 am

bjornbad posted this on May 20th, 2009 @ 2:42:23 am
i might even go so far as to say silly

I made the flyer.
I was "going for" silly.
I don't think it glorifies Nazis anymore than it glorifies book burning or an image of a dead body on a flier (e.g., a "victim of a bombraid") glorifies war.

idiot

jesus.

glad bone awl have nothing to do with that. was just jamming em yesterday.

well theres been rumours about bone awl for a while. So fuck knows. I have an lp and tape of theirs so id be gutted if they really were into it

never heard those rumors about bone awl myself, but yeah, that would suck.

"I was "going for" silly."?

Well, you missed, you stupid wee shite. How about a trip to the nearest old folks home to meet someone with personal knowledge of that kind of silly? It's not like you shouldn't have known how that kind of imagery has been used in BM circles.

you would be better posting that on vlv so the guy who did the flyer can see it.

Not sure what's worse, the idiot that put the flyer together, or the asshat on that thread that offered tips to give it more of a "wp" feel.

Marilyn Manson fan in school shooting

Wow, tomorrow night's Mayhem/Marduk show just got better; turns out Cattle Decapitation's playing the last gig of their tour with Gwar that night, so they won't be on the bill. They join the Blackenedfest lineup the next night, in Baltimore. Yay!

never heard those rumors about bone awl myself, but yeah, that would suck.

i've never heard word one about them having any kind of dubious politics. i think early on they used the same skull insignia death in june used? but other than that, if they're nazis or whatever, they seem to go to great lengths to hide it - their cover art and lyrical concerns would seem to indicate an interest in obscure archaeology/paleontology and henry darger...

No, I've read nothing of that kind either. My impression is that the fascist tendency in BM are quite upfront that that's what they're all about - you don't see that coyness that you get in industrial music.

Be interested to hear if there's any reaction from Bone Awl, or any of the other bands on the flier. The kvlt thing is always to say nothing, of course, but this kind of crap will follow a band around.

in better news, i get to go see krallice and wolves in the throne room tonight. super excited!

Just watched a screener copy of the black metal documentary Until the Light Takes Us. Super low budget, but it has some in depth interviews with Varg in prison and follows Fenriz all over Norway. Certainly worth watching.

Hellhammer makes a statement about how he's proud of Bard for killing a faggot. That really makes me question seeing Mayhem live, or giving them any local press when that tour comes through town...

On a separate note: Pitchfork brutally slams the new Wolves in the Throneroom releases.

funny i'm listening to black cascade now and while i don't think it's as good as two hunters that pfork review is very wrong. seems like black cascade's problem is production more than anything.

oh man you are in for a great show tonight dude. best show of the year so far for me.

It's a weird time for P-Fork to slam WITTR, when as someone pointed out elsewhere, stylistically it's not far off from the first two albums, which they unabashedly loved. Plus Stosuy was singing the album's praises in his column if I recall...I'd trust his opinion over the editors' when it comes to a metal album, that's for sure.

Hellhammer makes a statement about how he's proud of Bard for killing a faggot. That really makes me question seeing Mayhem live, or giving them any local press when that tour comes through town...

At the very least it's good to know which black metal artists have grown up, and which ones are still idiots after all these years. Shame, too, cos he's such an incredible drummer.

If that Pitchfork review makes people who "trust" Pitchfork reviews stay away, that's fine with me.

Marduk didn't make the gig tonight. Oh, well; at least I got to see Lair of the Minotaur.

Just watched a screener copy of the black metal documentary Until the Light Takes Us.

Just wanted to big this up. It's really really good.

man, I really want to see this.

hellhammer sounds like a big jerk/MORAN.

does that surprise you?

no, but it still kind of blows my mind that he would think it's cool to say that.

and I just read the pitchfork wittr reviews. really weird that they would slam those last two releases while praising two hunters/diadem. they definitely seem cut from the same cloth.

plus, diadem is really, really boring.

review seems to boil down to, "this black metal band plays black metal too much on these records."

I was actually slightly disappointed by Black Cascade, mainly because I don't think it followed through on the most promising aspects of Malevolent Grain that I really liked. But still, no way either of them deserved that kind of trashing.

it just means BM isnt hip in pitchforkland now. troo elitists will be rejoicing that their music isnt being tainted by hipsters anymore.

it's confusing because the same dude wrote both this review and the two hunters review. i don't get one guy feeling so differently about those records.

anyway, show last night: john was right, it was pretty amazing. krallice was very good, played all new stuff. they were held back a little bit by sound issues (mick barr couldn't figure out why his guitar was like twice as loud as the other guy's) and the fact that they played pretty early and didn't get cool lighting or anything. new songs sound great though.

then we chilled in the back during a storm of light because they are a pretty boring doom-lite band.

wolves in the throne room was incredible. i think it's easy to underestimate them as musicians on their albums, but no chance you could do so live. they are really really good, a special band imo. everything was balanced perfectly and sounded amazing. great setlist too, some new stuff plus "vastness and sorrow" (still my favorite song of theirs) and the first song from diadem as a crowd-pleasing encore. i'll repeat the message: go see them if you get a chance.

yeah, black cascade is single-minded in a way that malevolent grain isn't. and I was initially disappointed for the same reasons.

but is it really that much of a departure from the rest of their catalog? I don't think so. it's just probably their most METAL record. not a bad thing, imo.

I have to see wittr live sometime. just missed em.

well theres been rumours about bone awl for a while. So fuck knows. I have an lp and tape of theirs so id be gutted if they really were into it

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 20 May 2009 17:39 (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Coming in late to this but yeah are you sure you're not thinking of someone else? I do love me the fuck out of some Bone Awl I must say

I just kind of expect it when it comes to BM. It's not really going to influence me liking it either way, I mean I like Burzum and Mayhem and shit so whatevs.

review seems to boil down to, "this black metal band plays black metal too much on these records."

Seems to me like if anything he's saying the opposite?

New Ahkmed is really good. Anyone else heard it?

Seems to me like if anything he's saying the opposite?

oh yeah? I just skimmed at work and don't feel like re-reading, but it seemed like the dude kept saying that two hunters was way more varied/pulled in more disparate influences/etc. which is true to some extent but I feel like this is such a common non-metal guy complaint! and it always makes me wonder, "well, why are you even listening to metal records if what really floats your boat are the non-metal bits?"

Yeah truth... I guess you can substitute 'metal' for a whole load of other genres and there's an example, like ppl whose favourite punk band ever is Refused or who think it's wildly exciting that an indie-rap producer listens to Stereolab or something

I don't have a problem with it per se though, I don't think most people's tastes are worked out via spreadsheet... you end up liking and disliking stuff for all manner of arbitary reasons. Anyway, the review had that bit about sounding like Enya which I was going on partly, so I guess he's not saying the opposite so much as "this has relatively trad BM bits and non-trad BM bit and non-BM at all bits and none of them are very good"

yeah, I generally don't care either. just a little frustrating coming from a critic trashing a record.