Star Wars 8 shit talk

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I think I get it now that I’ve read both your posts and you tied them together. See, intellectually I’m down with moral ambiguity, I recognize it, it’s important to think about, it’s hard. But it also doesn’t really exist because lol morality ha ha social constructs etc. I went to school!

BTW another thing we learned is that the Force is mostly bollocks, only really useful as a last ditch resort in certain-death situations.

El Tomboto, Monday, 18 December 2017 01:25 (six years ago) link

Young Roger Wilco used it janitorially in the final scene too

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 18 December 2017 01:33 (six years ago) link

one of my favorite tweeters is a big fan of this movie and her comments make me wish I liked it more (it's a thread)

can’t wait till we get to the point of society where i try and watch cinderella online and the disney police jump straight out of my computer screen to arrest me

— [to the tune of star wars] (@See_Em_Play) December 17, 2017

Simon H., Monday, 18 December 2017 01:40 (six years ago) link

xp and for long distance phone calls but that’s not the point I was making

El Tomboto, Monday, 18 December 2017 01:45 (six years ago) link

Simon that’s an awesome thread thanks!

El Tomboto, Monday, 18 December 2017 01:51 (six years ago) link

if the next movie doesn't start with poe being court-martialed and executed for his two acts of massively destructive insubordination then i'm out

nobody’s commented on Finn’s leaking waterbed stillsuit!

El Tomboto, Monday, 18 December 2017 02:09 (six years ago) link

i’m always here for Drew Magary’s take on, well, anything so his TLJ nitpick is def worth the read.
(I mean, I don’t agree, but who cares)

https://www.gq.com/story/lets-lovingly-nitpick-star-wars-the-last-jedi-to-death

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 December 2017 02:30 (six years ago) link

That’s a great twitter thred

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 18 December 2017 02:30 (six years ago) link

A good tangent to Magary’s take is Chaw who apparently subtracted a star for loving Rian Johnson too much: http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2017/12/star-wars-the-last-jedi.html

I love all these takes btw

El Tomboto, Monday, 18 December 2017 02:51 (six years ago) link

ooh that’s a good one

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 December 2017 02:55 (six years ago) link

I'ma nitpick Magary and point out that Anakin Skywalker free-dived through what had to be literally thousands of feet through Coruscant sky traffic to land precisely on top of a fleeing speeder. in that light Leia's once-ever onscreen use of the Force is not that big a deal.

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Monday, 18 December 2017 03:46 (six years ago) link

<3

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 December 2017 03:57 (six years ago) link

Me personally, I would have put Ackbar in the captain’s chair of that medical ship, with a little exposition where he volunteers to pilot the slowest oldest junker in the fleet. Cut some of the horse chase, guarantee more bawling.

And then in act 3, when the pilots are flying out against the giant gorilla AT-ATs in their shitty speeders, they can all cheer “FOR ACKBAAARRRRR!”

My ideas are good

El Tomboto, Monday, 18 December 2017 04:03 (six years ago) link

just got back from seeing this. it has topped ROTJ as the most cornball entry. the ending with the chimney sweep kid and the shooting star was too much.

i was confused at a number of points because the movie just had too much plot and kept moving on, whether the characters were ready or not. Rey leaves Luke's island really quickly compared to how long it took them to find it. at one point it seems like Laura Dern's character is being set up to be a double agent, only then we find out like a minute later that she isn't a traitor.

Poe Dameron. who the fuck is this guy? why should we care about him? does he have a family? where is he from? what does he do? two movies i have watched and i only know this guy is the guy that shoots the gun that goes pew pew pew. this guy that we are following is a dangerous loose canon with no character and no motivation and almost gets Leia killed and yet he's never thrown in the brig or anything. he never suffers any consequences (yet Finn is incapacitated for trying to leave??? what kind of fucked up message is this sending?). maybe his bloodlust is just too useful.

i did really like Laura Dern and Leia Poppins was an incredible moment and honestly wish they had saved it for the end of the film, it was very moving, very beautiful. Space Opera at its most glorious. the Snoke battle was really cool too. some good setpieces here.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 18 December 2017 04:17 (six years ago) link

I seem to be in the minority on this but the energy between Kylo Ren and Rey didn't feel at all sexual to me, it felt whatever the opposite of that is

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 18 December 2017 04:55 (six years ago) link

some of u saw this 3x i bet

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 December 2017 04:59 (six years ago) link

gimme time

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 December 2017 05:00 (six years ago) link

some of u saw this 3x i bet

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, December 18, 2017 4:59 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fuck off

The Spilling of a Sacred Beer (latebloomer), Monday, 18 December 2017 05:03 (six years ago) link

happened to catch RoTJ on tv tonight, and realized something

ppl are annoyed @ Leia using the Force “all of a sudden” in her space death scene but she didn’t even find out she had the Force until ROTJ - Luke says she’ll learn to use it in time. So she really hasn’t had that many chances to use it anyway!

tbh my lols & wtf @ that scene was mainly how weird & unnatural she looked flying across the screen like a mannequin on a wire

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 December 2017 05:05 (six years ago) link

Leia floating through space and Rey in the mirrors were the two moments that felt a tiny bit like Twin Peaks

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 18 December 2017 05:17 (six years ago) link

Are 3D movies still a thing? Was this in 3D? Or is 3D more or less done?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 December 2017 05:23 (six years ago) link

it was shown in 3D yes

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 December 2017 05:31 (six years ago) link

Seriously Josh I can afford to pay you back for those tickets

El Tomboto, Monday, 18 December 2017 05:36 (six years ago) link

Leia floating through space and Rey in the mirrors were the two moments that felt a tiny bit like Twin Peaks


Yes! And the Snoke Lounge throne room, but that’s just shared lineage, I think.

El Tomboto, Monday, 18 December 2017 05:39 (six years ago) link

Amazing. Every word in Bruneau's post was wrong.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 December 2017 06:19 (six years ago) link

sidebar: (cf: Phil D batsignal)

anyone got a rec for a good Star Wars podcast that isn’t RebelForce Radio? i don’t like RFR

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 December 2017 06:30 (six years ago) link

I would like to not start watching this at 1130PM bc the reviews I’ve liked are the opinions I want to have so idk

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 18 December 2017 06:32 (six years ago) link

A good tangent to Magary’s take is Chaw who apparently subtracted a star for loving Rian Johnson too much: http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2017/12/star-wars-the-last-jedi.html

I love all these takes btw

Genuinely welling up here, goddamn.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 18 December 2017 10:35 (six years ago) link

I do love how the movie has such an expansive sense of what a Star Wars movie can be that it can embed a Disney live action movie (and one of their more socialist ones) in it. But I can understand how people mightn’t.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 18 December 2017 10:42 (six years ago) link

one of their more socialist ones

this meme must die

Simon H., Monday, 18 December 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link

I’m not entirely certain you know what that word means.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 18 December 2017 13:01 (six years ago) link

A meme (/miːm/ MEEM) is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture — often with the aim of conveying a particular phenomenon, theme, or meaning represented by the meme.[1] A meme acts as a unit for carrying cultural ideas, symbols, or practices, that can be transmitted from one mind to another through writing, speech, gestures, rituals, or other imitable phenomena with a mimicked theme.

Simon H., Monday, 18 December 2017 13:26 (six years ago) link

the shit talk begins!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 December 2017 13:34 (six years ago) link

I want to assure everyone, it's going to be all right.

I know people worry that J J Abrams has a high bar to clear. But here's the opening crawl for the next one, and holy heck, amazing. pic.twitter.com/GTnVEVBU9g

— Ned Raggett (@NedRaggett) December 18, 2017

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 December 2017 13:52 (six years ago) link

porgwai

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 18 December 2017 14:02 (six years ago) link

Porg Kar Wai

El Tomboto, Monday, 18 December 2017 14:26 (six years ago) link

No I meant socialist.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 18 December 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link

So apparently the iron joke was a nod to Hardware Wars: http://uproxx.com/movies/star-wars-the-last-jedi-hardware-wars-rian-johnson/3/

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Monday, 18 December 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link

yeah i loved that gag. and the chimney sweep kid at the end probably a nod to the og Star Wars Kid meme.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 18 December 2017 14:38 (six years ago) link

This is great:

Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017)
(dir. Rian Johnson) pic.twitter.com/mgw7fXm9Fn

— Simpsons Films (@simpsonsfilms) December 17, 2017

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Monday, 18 December 2017 14:42 (six years ago) link

from that review:

It destroys the idea of destiny and the notion that this story is bound to the Skywalker family

This, exactly. I've never been a huge fan of the "prophecy" trope - this series is better off being free of it.

I've kind of said it to friends, but The Force Awakens wasn't the sequel I wanted, but one I learned to appreciate once I let my expectations melt away. The Last Jedi is the one I wanted.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 December 2017 15:09 (six years ago) link

You were right upthread about pissing off the nerdboys, at least the right KIND of nerdboys. I'm seeing tweets of the "Rian Johnson raped my childhood" ilk all over the place.

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Monday, 18 December 2017 15:11 (six years ago) link

but showing a blank form and then saying "Not a Skywalker" is still centering the series on Skywalker. them fumbling Rey's parentage reveal had the opposite effect for me. if they were nobody space farmers then show them. the very fact that they won't show them because it isn't relevant to the Skywalker plot centers it on the Skywalkers. give me a new family to give a shit about.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 18 December 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link

except the whole point is that parentage doesn't matter

Simon H., Monday, 18 December 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link

so then reveal a random person if it doesn't matter.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 18 December 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link

xpost Except when it does (as with Adam Driver).

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 December 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link

No one has mentioned the obv chemistry Poe and Rey had upon meeting (?!?) at the end of the film. Wouldn't be surprised if this is the beginning of a whole new bloodline of Force-sensitives. I'll catch that film on cable.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 18 December 2017 15:19 (six years ago) link

Occurs to me today that Kylo Ren is the only Dark Side apprentice to successfully pull off what all apprentices yearn to under the Sith 'Rule of Two' -- kill off the master and take over.

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Monday, 18 December 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link

my main issue with some of the fanboy whining = the ones that are screaming "bad writing", like....

if anything, the original trilogy was trashy fun. The dialogue was cornball. the plotting was often arbitrary - there are a ton of plot holes and gaps in the OG series but nobody cared.

I think this film has some of the sharpest dialogue in the series, and that it's more of a character driven piece than a narrative piece. I could respect the argument that Johnson's style is too heavy for this universe, that it doesn't need to 'transcend' its simpler beginnings, but that isn't the complaint the nerdboys are making. They don't like the writing because big, significant events don't happen and we don't find out shocking mysteries about people's identities and prophecies aren't fulfilled etc.

feel like if these nerds want comfort food they should just play Battlefront for 20 hours a day.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 December 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link


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