Star Wars 8 shit talk

the fact that this movie is making a lot of nerds upset makes me wish I liked it more

ah, missed that. Poe should have been demoted again for that.

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lol yeah. and he does this after they've stated that they have *a* codebreaker, and not the one Maz vouched for.

by Ep 9 he'll be Administrative Assistant Poe

(In) a new interview with Entertainment Weekly, director Rian Johnson explains the decision to kill Snoke was essentially the driving narrative development of the entire story, the one thing he realized needed to happen to raise the stakes. “When I was working on the character of Kylo, I came to a place where I thought the most interesting thing would be to knock the shaky foundation out from under him at the beginning of this movie. By the end of this film, he’s gone from being a wannabe Vader to someone who is standing on his own feet as a complex villain taking the reins.” But in evolving Kylo in that manner, he realized something needed to be done about the former Jedi apprentice’s boss.

Once he realized Kylo’s growth would be a “really good setup going into the next movie,” it led naturally to a choice about the Supreme Leader. “That made me realize the most interesting thing would be to eliminate that dynamic between the ‘emperor’ and pupil, so that all bets are off going into the next one. That also led to the possibility of this dramatic turn in the middle, which could also be a really powerful connection point between Kylo and Rey.” It also smartly sidesteps the whole “redemption by turning on his master” idea that would’ve just echoed the end of Return Of The Jedi, instead having Kylo’s murder of Snoke be part of a larger grab for serious power.

If you had a bunch of theories about Snoke’s origin, or his plans for Rey and the First Order, Johnson doesn’t want you to feel stupid. It’s just that he didn’t see any place for it in his film. “It would have stopped any of these scenes dead cold if he had stopped and given a 30-second speech about how he’s Darth Plagueis. It doesn’t matter to Rey. If he had done that, Rey would have blinked and said, ‘Who?’ And the scene would have gone on.” (Because this is an interview on the internet, Johnson immediately adds, “And I’m not saying he’s Darth Plagueis!”) He agrees that coming up with theories about characters is “part of the fun of being a Star Wars fan,” and doesn’t dissuade anyone from doing so, but maybe let’s all be glad someone who thinks every major character needs a lengthy expository scene revealing their entire history isn’t directing these things.

lmao i'm totally into snoke being darth plagueis

lol at the "I'm not saying he's Darth Plagueis!"

like if that happened a buncha nerds woulda squealed and gone home excited and blogged how this was the best movie ever cos it proved their theory right on the internet

Snoke: I will now reveal a truth to you - one your weak mind may not comprehend. I am eternal. I am the reborn DARTH PLAGUEIS!!!

Rey: Am I supposed to know who that is?

Kylo: Whoa, wait a minute, you never told me that. How can I work alongside you if you're keeping secrets from me.

Snoke: You guys both really know how to ruin a moment *lightsabers self*

I was mildly surprised that they actually said "Sidious" in this movie. Acknowledgment that the prequels existed!

lol yeah I loved that

like if that happened a buncha nerds woulda squealed and gone home excited and blogged how this was the best movie ever cos it proved their theory right on the internet

― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Monday, December 18, 2017 9:53 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh ppl have that theory? i would think any acknowledgment of the prequels would upset people (i'm psyched to hear that there is some)

when I typed in Darth Plagueis earlier in google, it autofilled "Snoke" right after it lol

lmao

ian mcdiarmid telling The Story of Darth Plagueis while watching the weird iridescent bubble opera is my favorite scene in revenge of the sith

it's a fun theory and all, but sometimes I feel like some Star Wars fans think the delight of the series = "OMG, who is this person *really*?". musta been huge Scooby Doo fans too

xpost it was a cool moment in an otherwise hokey film, i agree

still can't believe the prequels had a character named "Nute Gunray"

the non-canon book about Darth Plagueis is uh, not horrible if you feel like reading Star Wars books

it exists in that weird slice of Star Wars canon that popped up post-prequels but before the Disney purchase iirc

what's wild is they released a Tarkin book nearly immediately after that is in Disney canon

but back to TLJ

how is it that a brief sidebar in this movie managed to explain war profiteering and corruption better than the entire ham-fisted prequels, lol

cuz george lucas can’t write for shit without collaborators iirc

true story

Lucas always seemed to think his audiences were really dumb.

hence Obi-Wan's line

"It was said that you would destroy the Sith, not join them! bring balance to the force, not leave it in darkness .."

yes, we remember the prophecy from the first two movies, thank you

I was surprised that during the Darth rebirth scene there wasn't a lab employee saying "quick, we've got to turn Lord Vader into a cyborg because you see he lost all of his limbs and is dying"

george really liked putting the subtext right in front of the text

Snoke was the MVP as far as im concerned. that throne room scene was the best part of the movie. the Snoke character was well done as a visual element (including his stylized death). he was kind of unnaturally tall and lanky and that golden robe made him stand out much more than had they gone with the expected Sith black cloak. i found his mis-shaped skull and headwound quite believable and they did a good job topping the teasing they did in TFA. love that he is still a total mystery. (Andy Serkis deserves all the acclaim he gets, he is Universal-level monster actor as far as im concerned)

lol thinking back on this movie and at one point i got tired of shots of spaceships. at times it was like watching a traffic jam.

snoke imo was one of the stupidest things in tfa but ymmv

"I got tired of shots of spaceships in a movie franchise called Star Wars"

ian mcdiarmid telling The Story of Darth Plagueis while watching the weird iridescent bubble opera is my favorite scene in revenge of the sith

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, December 18, 2017

only time he underacts too

thrilled that snoke is dead and doesn't matter

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I'm breathing a sigh of relief that we weren't yoked with Skywalker's island and the first jedi temple as a Location of Great Importance that Snoke discovers that we have to revisit in the next movie

Snoke reads Rey's mind, finds out everything, and it completely doesn't matter because Skywalker's gone and the temple is brushed away as an artifact that was assigned too much importance

no reason to ever show it again, unless Abrams is a dummy

only time he underacts too

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, December 18, 2017 10:28 AM (twenty-three seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah but the scenery chewing is also great blah blah blah i like the prequels

I'd love to see Ian McDiarmid giving the best man toast at a wedding

still can't believe the prequels had a character named "Nute Gunray"

― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal),

uh it's VICEROY if you're feeling nasty

no reason to ever show it again, unless Abrams is a dummy

― mh, Monday, December 18, 2017 10:28 AM (seventeen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i regret to inform you that etc. etc.

the reversing of TFA's "search for Skywalker" plot into the realization they were looking for the *legendary* Luke Skywalker, who is nowhere to be found until he pulls his shit together and goes out in one last blaze of glory

need to see this again but initial impression is kind of mixed

thought the directing was pretty great -- lots of cool shots i thought were surprising and weird, but in a good way.

the storyline was so convoluted though, and all the dead-end side missions started to bore me a little. i'm not even sure i understand who is fighting whom at this point -- arent there like 20 people in the resistance left? most of whom aren't really capable of fighting?

i understand simon's issues with the social justice messaging, but i thought it was pretty brave to put it in there. when rose mentions that the rich on the casino planet make their money by selling women to the first order, i found that very believable and it explained a lot about her character's motivations.

TOO. MUCH. FORCED. HUMOR. maybe it's just me, but it really takes away from the weight of the plot. there were a couple of genuine laugh out loud moments, though. but mostly the humor was lame and overdone

when it comes to finn...what exactly would you say he does here? seems like they had no idea how to use him in this one

mark hamill stole the show. the hologram sequence was BAD. ASS. i'm not sure if it's a good thing or a bad thing that hamill was the best part of the movie though..

btw Ackbar was robbed

lord if we get an Ep IX where "lol jk Rey u r really REY-WAN KENOBI, ESQ" and "Kylo Ren was SAVED FROM THE DARK SIDE BY LOVE" I may micturate all over the screen

My favorite McDiarmid moment is when he comes in his robes after blasting Mace Windu out the window

ew

my favorite mcdiarmid moment is "NO.... NO NOOOO"

so, same i guess

just rewatched that scene and lord, did Windu take three of the most inept Jedi with him or what....first two deaths were just lances that they failed to parry

carrie fisher was easily the worst part of the movie, though. i thought leia died about 3 times, and was pretty irritated every time i realized she was still alive

ust rewatched that scene and lord, did Windu take three of the most inept Jedi with him or what....first two deaths were just lances that they failed to parry

― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal),

I stumbled into a Star Wars nerd debate last week concerning that fight: whether Sidious deliberately lost so he could get Anakin into the room or Windu legit overpowered him.

I think "deliberately lost" is too clever by half and not even the Emperor is that powerful

p much neither Windu or Sidious looked like they wanted to win, v much an old man saber fight

omg this scene. in the midst of a deadly struggle, of course Lucas has both characters trying to character on a conversation with Anakin.

also McDiarmid reacting like he's just severely constipated

I leafed through the novel and apparently Windu knows some super secret Jedi sauce that allowed him to send Sith energy back at Sidious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQKdyaJHglM