Star Wars 8 shit talk

There are a lot of spoilers — and some discussion of Joel Schumacher's Batman movies, and the prequels

surprised they didn't call me

The following is a conversation about The Last Jedi held between two friends, one a spry, 30-year-old Millennial, and the other a wizened, but freakishly handsome 38-year-old Gen X kind of a guy.

Hope the writer can help bridge this yawning age gap!

That "38" must be a typo for "48," because then the first sentence says, "We should probably begin by stressing something that is apparent only to the few people who know us personally: you watched the Star Wars films when they were originally released theatrically while I watched them first on VHS." Somebody born in 1979 could only have seen Empire and Jedi in the theater, and would barely remember either at age 1 and nearly age 3.

Rey's parents should have been revealed to be Lady Bird's parents and "nowhere" should have been revealed to be "Sacramento".

The Imperial Guard weren’t around in the confrontation in ROTJ b/c the Emperor dismisses them early on, right? “Leave us!”

One thing I haven’t seen anyone mention is that we get one of the Praetorians full-on mulched, right? We get blood and viscera tossed up, almost in compensation for the dude who get his head bloodlessly air-holed

That was just bits of the outfit. No actual viscera, though it was clearly meant to evoke it.

a better death star

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_circle#/media/File:Colour_sketch_of_a_spaceship_creating_crop_circles.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_circle#/media/File:Colour_sketch_of_a_spaceship_creating_crop_circles.jpg

https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/19/16795346/green-blue-milk-scene-the-last-jedi-luke-skywalker-thala-siren-dairy-science

Thinking about it now, I kinda wanted Snoke to say, "Kylo Ren, I knew Darth Vader, I worked with Darth Vader, and you are no Darth Vader."

haha, excellent.

this movie was awesome

like, what a good movie about failure, specifically the failures between parents (or surrogate parents) and children

all the luke/rey/kylo stuff was exactly what i wanted out of this movie

the jokes were fine! they were much better than the ones in rogue one and honestly weren’t distracting at all imo???? and i had very few issues with the pacing, 2.5 hours flew by

Yayyy glad you liked it!

This movie was rad, I loved all the unique un-starwars-like stylistic touches.

“Homeworld not destroyed” probably at best neutral for Rey, to be honest.

One thing that Hollywood Reporter article did is remind me to ask: did the reyouthified Luke projection remind anyone else of Peter Dinklage?

This really clicked for me on my second viewing. It felt almost like I was watching a completely different movie. That’s the first time a Star Wars has ever done that.

Anyway, it’s great.

Not FLAWLESS mind you. It’s probably a smidge too long with too many subplots, and I could have done without some of the Prequel-esque tomfoolery on the casino planet. But damn.

maybe the last thing where i was really invested in the next installment having weight as the next real, unspoilable installment in something i cared about, was the harry potter books

Okay wait you’re talking about books where the first four came out every year like clockwork, and the last three came out every two years IE the same time gap as the current mainline Star Wars films.

there were three years between 4 and 5, and she wasn't putting out "grindelwald: a harry potter story" in the off years. there were periods of time where you could forget about harry potter and thus be ready to get excited again. idk that was my experience anyway.

Time goes by so much slower when you're a kid. I'm sure there are teenagers out there that have plenty of time to forget about star wars and then get excited again.

i mostly buy that, except that with movies coming out every year, it never goes away. at no point in the last two years have my local dollar stores and chain pharmacies not been selling at least a half-dozen star wars items each. toys okay sure... but star wars paper towels?!

(this was somewhat true for harry potter also, but muddied by the movies overlapping the books.)

rogue one too many

how han solo can you go

Gonna say it now, I fucking loved the casino planet and especially that drunk alien who thought BB-8 was a slot machine.

mocap mark hamill!

after a few days i think my favorite bit, besides the rey/kylo/red dudes battle, was rey's montagey realization of the force with luke. the death that gives rise to new life. hokey sure but it felt right, it felt like the really cool inspiring version of the force that obi-wan and yoda talked about in the first place.

i also like the idea that when luke senses her contact with the dark side, he's wrong to be freaked out. he's flawed in ways that are recognizably the decades-on, matured but not saintly, version of the farmboy on the farm we met all those years ago. that farmboy was also a flyboy so it implies interesting things about poe's capacity for growth also. yeah it's also just that we're repeating ourselves, but this is how poetry should rhyme imo.

man there's a lot in this that i'd enjoy seeing again. if they released a two-hour special edition i think i'd do it.

yeah that’s how i feel too

i think i’ve enjoyed it more as a conversation piece than a movie tbh

agreed, it seems like almost everyone who saw it, saw a different movie

What are you talking about, we all saw Burt Reynolds and Dom deLuise try and make that cross-country run.

no, it was ryan reynolds and dom passantino iirc

What are you talking about, we all saw Burt Reynolds and Dom deLuise try and make that cross-country run.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, December 20, 2017 10:36 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is still the only viable Han Solo movie outline imho

A stand alone movie set in between A New Hope and Empire has to be fertile ground surely? I mean that's what.. a 2 year time-frame? Anything could have happened! Who wouldn't want to watch that? I know the novels and expanded universe probably cover this to death but still..

Who wouldn't want to watch that?

dear lord no more inbetweenquels please

xxxp The Kesselball Run

I did like the continuation of a jokey line from TFA, though. When Han and Leia first re-unite after the big fight on Takodana, the first thing he says is, "You changed your hair." In TLJ, when Luke shows up in the bunker at the end, Leia says, "I know what you're going to say . . . I changed my hair."

omg we'll finally get that movie about the poor Imperial probe droid's courageous journey to Hoth

xxxposts

oh another great thing: hamill's "where's han?" almost guaranteed to work emotionally given our history with the characters, but i still thought it was well-performed and well-directed. would rather have seen that scene play out in dialogue than the cutting-away we got - feels like someone just decided it was too hard to write or would bum the audience out - better get back to some animal antics!

Just make a TV series out of the Darth Vader comic it would be fabulous.

hamill was p wonderful in this movie i thought

^ yeah but also the IV-V period is the only (?) one currently being explored in canon, so appearing in more media is probably not likely.

I loved that the force montage came shortly after Luke fucking around with Rey when she literally reaches out.

Enjoyed this piece -- talks about the Bolivian location used for Crait.

https://earther.com/the-amazing-earth-science-behind-the-last-jedis-new-min-1821429894

the first of the new Vader comics was between IV and V, current one takes place between III and IV

i demand Porg One: A Star Wars Story

out as a six-part comic book and ios game in april 2018 iirc