Who's getting into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

Close to arbitrary?!

it’s exceedingly arbitrary

It exceeds arbitrary.

everyone complaining about bon jovi and tacitly approving dire straits is a cop or worse a boomer sympathizer

^^^this

What's wrong with Dire Straits?

You’re taking the piss right?

I've got to say the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction news for Bon Jovi kinda bugged me. As a Def Leppard fan, I put together a detailed "face-off" comparing the 2 bands to show which one is REALLY more "worthy" of the honor.

I hope you find it interesting...Feel free to share it if you agree!

"Bon Jovi, but not Def Leppard? For Shame Rock & Roll Hall of Fame!"
https://www.nostalgiclogic.com/bon-jovi-not-def-leppard-shame/

How many more threads are you going to post this on

https://pitchfork.com/news/radiohead-the-cure-janet-jackson-inducted-into-rock-hall-of-fame/

Someone finally recognized Radiohead!

We should have each other to tea huh?
We should have each other with cream
Then curl up by the fire
And sleep for awhile
It's the grooviest thing
It's the perfect dream...

Someone finally recognized Radiohead!

― Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:48 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

About damn time! The Radio Head is a good rock 'n roll band, with evergreens like The Creep and My Bronze Lung.

lol at the Pitchfork blurb stressing Roxy Music (with Brian Eno) just to get Brian Eno's name in there, as if Roxy Music by itself is too much of a head scratcher.

While I suspect they will puss-out and attend, it would be great if Radiohead blew it off and instead they had an allstar band of like Adam Levine, Chris Martin, Ed Sheehan and Sam Smith pay tribute or something.

lol

Don't mention Chris Martin -- it only serves to remind us that Coldplay will one day be joining them.

Bryan Ferry singing Janet's "Come Back to Me" = dream of a lifetime fulfilled.

This is a really strong list of inductees - like, even as some random idiot millennial I'm at least a baseline level of impressed with every name on there, and a few of them I really love - but the stubborn fanboy in me still really wishes Todd Rundgren had gotten a spot. I'm not sure who I'd have the nerve to say shouldn't be on there, though (especially if I had to affirm my choice to a fan of that act). Def Leppard, maybe?

Maybe Stevie Nicks, going on an unchecked assumption that Fleetwood Mac are already inducted.

I was thinking the same thing, about this being a really strong “class” — both “critically” and in terms of “popularity,” at several different levels.

i'm not a fan of their music, but def leppard was the most popular band of a dominant genre (hair metal) for years. it's hard to argue they don't deserve to be in the rock hall, especially if the objectively inferior bon jovi is in already

Guns n Roses too.

Hysteria is definitely a landmark piece of work...insane album

First four albums all solid

it's hard to argue they don't deserve to be in the rock hall, especially if the objectively inferior bon jovi is in already

Literally the only argument in their favor IMO. "Well, we let this even shittier band in - guess we're stuck with 'em."

Eric Clapton is in three times

xp Funny how you cut out the first part of Voodoo Chili's argument!

I'm starting to think Wire isn't going to get in!!!

xp Funny how you cut out the first part of Voodoo Chili's argument!

Because "they were really popular!" doesn't mean anything to me.

Fine, but here are the Rock Hall's official criteria:

Performers
This category honors bands or solo artists which demonstrate musical excellence. Such a descriptor includes (but isn't limited to) influence on other performers or genres; length and depth of career and catalog; stylistic innovations; or superior technique and skills.

They also say, Besides demonstrating unquestionable musical excellence and talent, inductees will have had a significant impact on the development, evolution and preservation of rock & roll.

Given those loosey-goosey standards, an argument can certainly be made for Def Leppard that goes beyond, "Well, we let in KISS and Bon Jovi..."!

i don't like hair metal, but it seems silly to me to have a rock hall and not include hair metal

i don't like hair metal, but it seems silly to me to have a rock hall and not include hair metal

Hair metal should absolutely be included, and I would 100% argue for the induction of Mötley Crüe, Ratt, Poison, W.A.S.P. and Junkyard (a band that hasn't got a chance in hell of getting in, but who were really quite good).

Being really popular does seem like a possibly relevant criterion for a hall of fame tbf.

Also wtf Ratt?

the studio techniques that led to hysteria sounding as massive as it does (still) are HOF worthy on their own

Yeah, I had the thought that Mutt Lange probably deserves to be in there.

Meat Loaf/Jim Steinman together

Point being I might actually watch the ceremony - on first broadcast!! - this year on the strength of the nominees.
Also I have nothing against Def Leppard, I was just thinking of who on that list I had the least personal passion for. Plus I've checked now and Fleetwood got in back in 1998 so Stevie Nicks is almost certainly the one I'd swap out for Todd anyway