I HATE APPLE

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apple's about to shit up one of melbourne's best public spaces with this fucking monstrosity

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9275774-3x2-700x467.jpg

pay your tax or get tae fuck

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link

for years I put in the work to keep iCloud turned off, and it was relentless work. at first they'd just quietly turn it back on whenever you allowed an iOS update. then I made the the decision when I bought a 6S last year never to update iOS, ever. then it started throwing 'your photo library needs optimization. turn on iCloud?' dialogues every time I visited my photo library, even though I had 40G+ free space on my phone. every time. I would say no with every visit to photo library, but I suppose one night checking my phone very late I might have accidentally clicked yes, even though I have no memory of that -- and in the morning, it had synced through iCloud and downloaded duplicates of all the photos I'd manually copied over to my main computer, dated as if they were new photos, strewn throughout my chronology. can't find anything now.

now when I try to turn off the iCloud it says this means it will mean losing photos. I eventually got around the daily dialog to subscribe to a new monthly fee for more iCloud storage by copying all old photos to another hard drive and deleting everything.

I don't normally take any photos I'd need to keep private. but it's pretty shocking what happens to any user who tries to turn off iCloud -- just try it

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link

I've never set it up.

pplains, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link

thanks for the warming milton. i never ended up going ahead with it and probably won’t now.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link

I have it on but never for photos, which has suited me fine.

Alba, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link

This intentional throttling thing could have made sense if they had presented it as an option or a feature prior to its being discovered by a customer

calstars, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/12/21/apple-lawsuit-slowing-down-old-iphone-models/

f u apple

calstars, Friday, 22 December 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link

I just can't get over how consistent the Apple forums experience is. Another classic example: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5437358?start=0&tstart=0

How does that kind of forum culture emerge, where everybody is absolutely incorrect about everything all the time, have zero self-awareness, and seemingly cannot even understand the english language when it's inconvenient to them?

Dan I., Friday, 22 December 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link

Sorry, I know no one cares (rightfully), but it's just so mind-boggling to me. I'm not looking for these, they just come up as a result of routine google searches, and the "high level" forum regulars are absolutely incorrect, EVERY single time! https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6648401?start=0&tstart=0

Dan I., Friday, 22 December 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link

That kind of thing is so common in many tech support forums. Always so many people with low reading comprehension skills that think they are experts at everything. If anyone points out that they might be wrong, instead of questioning themselves they just double down. It is maddening.

silverfish, Friday, 22 December 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link

I was joking a while ago that Apple has really made it, because forum posters seem identical in tone and information level to Microsoft-related forums in the late 90s

really need people insisting you edit random values in app setting files that they have ascribed significance to get to the “change this random registry entry” level though

mh, Friday, 22 December 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link

I've been getting hit with the "Month 13 is out of bounds" console spewage: https://robservatory.com/month-13-is-out-of-bounds/ - f'in annoying

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 23 December 2017 23:37 (six years ago) link

Same, had that at work. Between this and the completely off half-of-screen-nowyouseemenowyoudont-push-notifications of the latest iOS, it's safe to say Apple is making a right mess of things right now. Beggars belief. I can't possibly ask my director, yet again, to buy into this for my team any longer. Which sucks, because change suck. But iOS/apple has become completely unworkable. Guess I'll get acquainted with Android :-/

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 23 December 2017 23:49 (six years ago) link

>I have it on but never for photos, which has suited me fine.

― Alba, Wednesday, December 20, 2017

expert life advice, thank you

Milton Parker, Sunday, 24 December 2017 00:23 (six years ago) link

One of the USB-C ports on my six month old MBP went out a couple weeks ago and I finally got around to getting it fixed. To Apple's credit, they had it fixed it in four days but the whole experience this time rankled - especially taking a day off to sort through "this Time Machine archive is newer than the installed OS" b.s. to just restore everything back. I dunno... I keep thinking about the apocryphal F-16 story - great plane but a software bugs caused it to flip over into inverted flight when crossing the equator

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 24 December 2017 08:33 (six years ago) link

https://www.apple.com/iphone-battery-and-performance/

if there's anything good to come of this, us$50 off replacement batteries for a year is not terrible. shame their hand had to be forced though.

there needs to be a word for this kind of apology which is only issued two weeks after someone exposes your bullshit.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 29 December 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link

Agree, $29 for a battery is damn good

Random Shitposter (calstars), Friday, 29 December 2017 00:34 (six years ago) link

I think they completely fucked up but I also think this was some well-wishing engineer’s idea that was poorly implemented and not a cynical way to market new phones. I might be completely naive, though

targeting an acceptable number of running hours and prioritizing that over some speed makes sense, doing it to a noticeable point, and also not making it a preference you can turn on, smells like an attempt to head off battery complaints without the debate putting it in as a setting would cause

now they’ve got the debate and backlash anyway

mh, Friday, 29 December 2017 00:35 (six years ago) link

I have a 7 and I’m on 11.2 so for me the paranoia begins

Random Shitposter (calstars), Friday, 29 December 2017 00:37 (six years ago) link

fuck Apple

Random Shitposter (calstars), Friday, 29 December 2017 00:38 (six years ago) link

nice, gonna send in like 5 phones for battery replacement.

Spottie, Friday, 29 December 2017 03:09 (six years ago) link

has to be 6 or later model

attention vampire (MatthewK), Friday, 29 December 2017 03:43 (six years ago) link

oh i read that as later as in older

Spottie, Friday, 29 December 2017 03:57 (six years ago) link

i just did/bought parts for battery replacements for two 6's :[

, Friday, 29 December 2017 12:02 (six years ago) link

i gotta say, i wasn't too mad at this. i remember my iphones randomly shutting off at like, 40% charge and i'd be out far away from home and wondering what the hell happened. their transparency w/r/t policy was shit though. and ultimately this leads back to the design decision of not making the battery user replaceable

, Friday, 29 December 2017 12:03 (six years ago) link

^^

DJI, Friday, 29 December 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link

My 6s was shutting off all the time at 20-30% and a year ago I got a free battery out of it due to meeting some specific criteria. It’s been better since but still doesn’t last anywhere near as long as it did when it was brand new in the fall of 2015.

I’ll probably pay $30 for another new battery at the last possible moment to try and get another year out of it because I have no desire to upgrade and lose my headphone jack.

joygoat, Friday, 29 December 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link

i guess my SE isn't affected

however, iFixit is now offering DIY battery kits for $29, for all iPhones

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 29 December 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link

yep just ordered one of those for my old 5, now my daughter’s, who has to charge twice a day at present just for her young person life of Instagram sms & messenger

droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 29 December 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link

My iPhone is doing something weird and I am dying to know why. It's a 6 ,and since I installed iOS 11 last Saturday, Bluetooth turns on every morning at 5:00 a.m. I know it's happening b/c when the Bluetooth receiver attached to my stereo connects to a device, it sends very loud BOO-DOOP! noise through the stereo speakers. (I could just turn the stereo off, but I've gone from being annoyed to being really curious about the cause, so I leave it on to make sure it's happening.)

Any ideas what this is all about??

Je55e, Saturday, 30 December 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link

You have to turn Bluetooth or WiFi off in settings to shut them off completely now. If you just do
It from control center it only disables from the current connection, and for 24 hours.

Spottie, Saturday, 30 December 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link

Ah.... That's kind of annoying!

But also odd b/c I routinely turn off BT between 6-10 pm every night (when I'm not going to listen to any more music or podcasts and when I don't want noises from a game going through the stereo speakers) so that's only less than 12 hours max.

Je55e, Saturday, 30 December 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link

It's not 24 hours, I answered your question elsewhere ding dong.

Jeff, Saturday, 30 December 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link

“it’s not an issue, it’s a feature”

calstars, Saturday, 30 December 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link

Also fuck Apple for persistently trying to auto correct “fuck” to “duck” what the duck

calstars, Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link

Sorry Jeff, I came here before seeing your answer elsewhere. That’s a dumb feature or dumbly implemented and definitely dumbly not communicated.

Je55e, Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link

Also dumb: the BT connector so boisterously proclaiming BOODOOP! upon connecting. (And BEEBOOMP! upon disconnecting).

Je55e, Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

Duck/fuck is pretty easy to get around. Just go to settings/general/keyboard/text replacement. Add the phrase fuck and leave shortcut blank.

Jeff, Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link

Of course you shouldn’t have to do that. Fuck apple.

Jeff, Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link

is it "do not disturb" turning off for the day?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:31 (six years ago) link

Prissy, is what that is. "Oh *surely* you're a nice person and intended to write 'ducking hell'?"

attention vampire (MatthewK), Saturday, 30 December 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link

if i want the meltdown/spectre patch does that mean i need to upgrade to high sierra? is apple going to patch older versions as well? seems like they should since this bug goes back 20 years.

, Thursday, 4 January 2018 20:24 (six years ago) link

Sierra is still getting security fixes I think

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 4 January 2018 20:29 (six years ago) link

following

this article seems like a good overview but does not answer your questions

https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/03/kernel-panic-what-are-meltdown-and-spectre-the-bugs-affecting-nearly-every-computer-and-device/

sleeve, Thursday, 4 January 2018 20:31 (six years ago) link

if i'm reading this right it was fixed last month (to the extent possible, lol) in high sierra, sierra and el capitan

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT208331

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 4 January 2018 20:45 (six years ago) link

The shittiness of autocorrect on iOS 11.2 is driving me fucking crazy with all the capitalizations.

Just so utterly bad.

Alan Watts (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 4 January 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link

thanks caek, that's good to know.

has anybody found out if iPhones are affected? seemed like ARM chips are affected as well, I wonder if Apple's custom silicon walled it off.

, Thursday, 4 January 2018 21:39 (six years ago) link

Fuck, they fixed it in Sierra? I finally upgraded to HS because of this

stet, Thursday, 4 January 2018 21:54 (six years ago) link

i'm still holding off upgrading to HS because I have a few random 32bit apps I don't want to lose the ability to use. What am I supposed to do????

dan selzer, Thursday, 4 January 2018 22:00 (six years ago) link

only run software that you trust and keep your web browser updated to avoid javascript attacks

the main risk here is shared-use machines, especially virtual machines in hosting environments. there are some (impressive) javascript proof of concepts that do similar tricks with latency to try to mine memory, but that's a separate issue and the main browsers have already made changes to block that kind of behavior. and that's already been out there for quite a while

if you don't actually run software that has an attack in it, and your machine isn't set up to run someone else's code, you're pretty unlikely to be at risk. and if you're running random untrusted programs to begin with, you likely have larger problems

mh, Thursday, 4 January 2018 22:17 (six years ago) link


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