Molly Haskell on Letter:
Some essayists have felt that Ophuls completely identified with his heroine and expected the same of his audience. It’s true he shared with his female characters a feeling of displacement, an alienation from the culture at large. Their preoccupation with fate and chance give their stories an air of ephemerality....
In watching it again, I find that Stefan has become every bit Lisa’s equal, a vividly imagined lost soul as captivating as he is heartbreaking. Hardly less poignant though with little screen time are the son, Stefan Jr. (Leo B. Pessin), and the husband (Marcel Journet), one of those military men (like Charles Boyer in Madame de) whose conventional views and demeanor mask an obvious depth of feeling. Johann represents correct society, but also the ideals of duty and obligation, by no means trivial. He even married her with the full knowledge of her affair and the child’s parentage. Indeed, she will be urging the boy to call Johann Father even as she is leaving him forever, leaving a ten-year-old Stefan who needs and can appreciate her love for the adult and dissipated Stefan who can’t. And here’s the crux of it: if Stefan repeatedly fails to see her clearly, fails to recognize her as the savior who might redeem his life and vocation, so she fails to appreciate the unlikelihood of his transformation, and especially the depth of his degradation at the end. Rarely has the nature of love as fantasy been so richly understood or so exquisitely expressed.
https://www.filmcomment.com/blog/ive-seen-somewhere-soulmates-ophulss-letter-unknown-woman/
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 December 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link
Just watched Liebelei (1933, a well-worn and poorly subtitled copy on YouTube). The "military men (like Charles Boyer in Madame de) whose conventional views and demeanor mask an obvious depth of feeling" are in full effect--Fritz's duel with the baron is negotiated in high-level discussions of the sort one would associate with an armistice treaty. And Dori, Fritz' playboy roommate, when faced with serving as Fritz' second in that duel, is so disgusted by the prospect that he talks of resigning his commission and emigrating to a Brazil coffee plantation.
I suppose it's oversimplification to reduce all of Ophuls' films to "love never wins in the end, but it's glorious while it lasts"?
― Life is a banquet and my invitation was lost in the mail (j.lu), Saturday, 4 April 2020 00:59 (four years ago) link
I like that all of the Max Ophuls films I have seen now seem to focus on a series of coincidences or connected themes
― Dan S, Sunday, 21 June 2020 01:14 (three years ago) link
still have to see Letter From an Unknown Woman and The Reckless Moment
― Dan S, Sunday, 21 June 2020 01:26 (three years ago) link
uh yeah
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 June 2020 01:29 (three years ago) link
looks like Letter From an Unknown Woman is on youtube
― Dan S, Sunday, 21 June 2020 01:37 (three years ago) link
really liked The Earrings of Madame de... and Lola Montès
― Dan S, Sunday, 21 June 2020 01:45 (three years ago) link
re: Madame de..., don’t fully understand it, but I like the quote from Jacques Rivette: "a difficult work, in the fullest sense of the word, even in its writing, one in which everything aims to disconcert, distract the viewer from what is essential through the accumulation of secondary actions, wrong turns, repetitions and delays; a work in which the picturesque tries hard to conceal the pathetic."
― Dan S, Sunday, 21 June 2020 02:10 (three years ago) link
also love La Ronde
“but Le Ronde killed me, I was unprepared for something so self-conscious or sexed up, you usually don't get both done equally well: 10 episodes where a couple gets together, connected by one of the characters wandering off, vaguely discontent to dreamily encounter their next partner.”
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:58 AM (eleven years ago)
― Dan S, Sunday, 21 June 2020 02:37 (three years ago) link
watched Lola Montès again, it really is beautiful, I’m impressed with Max Ophuls as a director, and his films seem completely distinct from everyone else’s
― Dan S, Thursday, 13 August 2020 00:36 (three years ago) link
I wish I could even like Lola!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 August 2020 00:38 (three years ago) link
what did you dislike about it?
― Dan S, Thursday, 13 August 2020 00:39 (three years ago) link
still haven't seen Letter From an Unknown Woman or The Reckless Moment
― Dan S, Thursday, 13 August 2020 00:42 (three years ago) link
It's stilted in a way those films you cited (Earrings de Madame de..., even La Ronde) aren't. But I've long suspected Lola is one of those Great Films I'll wrestle with for decades. I've read beautiful defenses.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 August 2020 00:44 (three years ago) link
*you cite aren't.
it does have a more stilted quality with all of the spectacle and ceremony, but I was kind of thrilled by that, and I liked that the flashbacks were the heart of it
― Dan S, Thursday, 13 August 2020 00:51 (three years ago) link
You're right. He was moving into another manner.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 August 2020 00:52 (three years ago) link
Recently watched Madame de ... with someone who found the title character the weak link; she didn't understand why the men were so smitten. The only defense I could mount was that she does have amazing chemistry with Donati, and she becomes more compelling once her jealous husband makes miserable.
― lukas, Thursday, 13 August 2020 01:02 (three years ago) link
Were they smitten? The most tragic part of the film is the depth of Boyer's commitment, as he discovers on his own. He insists on wanting a friendship (l'amitié) even if they don't sleep together; she wants something absolute, thus violating the terms of the times. But I wouldn't say he was smitten with his wife in any modern sense.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 August 2020 01:10 (three years ago) link
and the way Boyer modulates irony enough to hint at his regard for Louise is exquisite; it's one of my favorite film performances.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 August 2020 01:11 (three years ago) link
now I want to see it again
― Dan S, Thursday, 13 August 2020 01:26 (three years ago) link