What is the REAL name of the double album released by the Beatles on November 22, 1968?

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Four unpronounceable symbols on the lyrics sheet.

Liquid Plejades, Friday, 22 December 2017 14:34 (six years ago) link

stylized group monogram iirc, the working title was "PRGJ"

Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Friday, 22 December 2017 14:37 (six years ago) link

TS The Beatles' "White Album" vs. Eddie Palmieri's "White Album" vs. Caetano Veloso's "White Album"

― Burru Men Meet Burryman ina Wicker Man (James Redd and the Blecchs), 22. december 2017 12:58 (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Veloso

Frederik B, Friday, 22 December 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

why is this a poll the title is the only thing on the cover

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 December 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link

whiteness

Men's Scarehouse - "You're gonna like the way you're shook." (m bison), Friday, 22 December 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link

Jeff.

jesus and figs and science and the foo fighters (unregistered), Friday, 22 December 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link

^^^^^

brimstead, Friday, 22 December 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link

Paul calls it The White Album.

Its title is "The Beatles".

And why not?

Mark G, Saturday, 23 December 2017 23:50 (six years ago) link

Is Richard Hamilton still alive? We should ask him, it was his idea. He should get final say.

piscesx, Sunday, 24 December 2017 12:33 (six years ago) link

*votes*

dorsalstop, Sunday, 24 December 2017 13:16 (six years ago) link

I didn't think this was an issue--it's officially The Beatles, and everyone calls it The White Album (except Noodle Vague, who calls it Fuck the Beatles).

clemenza, Sunday, 24 December 2017 13:53 (six years ago) link

I also didn't think this was an issue--it's officially untitled, and everyone calls it the white album (except people who incorrectly capitalise and italicise that informal title).

dorsalstop, Sunday, 24 December 2017 14:04 (six years ago) link

Ire the white album - everyone I've met has called it this, this semantics shit is the definition of "not living but killing time"

kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 24 December 2017 14:09 (six years ago) link

* it's

kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 24 December 2017 14:11 (six years ago) link

Dorstalstop (no idea how credible these sites are):

http://www.beatlesebooks.com/white-album
http://beatlestrivia.com/what-is-the-official-name-of-the-white-album/

As for the name of the album, the working title had been “A Doll's House,” named after the popular novel by Henrik Isben, but this had to be dropped because the progressive rock band “Family” had released an album entitled “Music In A Doll's House” earlier in the year. Paul remembers: “Richard asked, 'Has there been an album called “The Beatles”?' so I referred back to EMI and they said, 'No. There's been “Meet The Beatles,” introducing The Beatles in America, but there'd never been an album called “The Beatles”.' So he said, 'Let's call it that'; which is the official title of the White Album.”

clemenza, Sunday, 24 December 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link

And I don't know the answer to this, but if a title isn't an actual title, just something that's been adopted as a title, I'm not sure why you wouldn't italicize it anyway--within that sentence, the words "The White Album" are functioning as a title.

clemenza, Sunday, 24 December 2017 14:44 (six years ago) link

Clemenza otm

kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 24 December 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link

the man from P.O.R.L.O.C.K. (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 24 December 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link

I didn't think this was an issue--it's officially The Beatles, and everyone calls it The White Album.

I can think of one person who doesn't, can you children?

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 December 2017 15:39 (six years ago) link

course the official title according to Macca is 'the BLOODY Beatles' White Album'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9xDBTpLz-8

piscesx, Sunday, 24 December 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link

/I didn't think this was an issue--it's officially The Beatles, and everyone calls it The White Album./

I can think of one person who doesn't, can you children?

Music has the right to The BeatlesThe White Albumchildren

Steely Rodin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 December 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link

it's called "the white album"

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 24 December 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

^cosign

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 24 December 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link

Blink 182

MarkoP, Sunday, 24 December 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link

does anyone call the red and blue albums '1962-1966' and '1967-1970'? i bet they don't.

piscesx, Sunday, 24 December 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link

None of these. I call it "the Beatles' white album." Punctuation (sic).

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 24 December 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link

also all Beatles albums are white albums, in a sense

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 24 December 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link

does anyone call the red and blue albums '1962-1966' and '1967-1970'? i bet they don't.

when I was a kid I used to listen to those two albums on home recorded cassette tapes that my parents had made after borrowing the CDs from the library, the tapes were labelled 'The Beatles 1962-1966' and 'The Beatles 1967-1970' and I didn't even know what the original album covers looked like. imo any attempt to answer the question 'what is the REAL name of the double album released by the Beatles on November 22, 1968' needs to involve a survey to discover what ppl wrote on their cassette labels after taping it

soref, Sunday, 24 December 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link

apparently the white album is 93 minutes 35 seconds long meaning that you wouldn't be able to fit it on a single c90 tape, would also be interested to know how people got around this

soref, Sunday, 24 December 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

they left off "long long long"

Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 24 December 2017 17:41 (six years ago) link

not endorsing it, song rules, but that'd be my guess. most of the other "most hated" songs aren't long enough to do the trick.

Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 24 December 2017 17:41 (six years ago) link

Macca like a BOASS in that video

glumdalclitch, Sunday, 24 December 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link

In the EMI catalogue I used to have, its called "The Beatles"

Mark G, Sunday, 24 December 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link

xp haha i know right? makes me wonder why he just isn't like that all the time.

piscesx, Sunday, 24 December 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link

what is the REAL name of Henrik Isben's popular novel?

a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 December 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link

apparently the white album is 93 minutes 35 seconds long meaning that you wouldn't be able to fit it on a single c90 tape, would also be interested to know how people got around this

put Master of Reality on the A side and Paranoid on the B iirc

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 25 December 2017 03:34 (six years ago) link

I'm very confused by this. ITunes is confirming that my digital version of the white album is 94 minutes. However, I DID listen to it on a single C90 cassette for years, and this is how I first knew it. I don't notice any differences between my current digital version and my old cassette.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 25 December 2017 03:50 (six years ago) link

And I don't know the answer to this, but if a title isn't an actual title, just something that's been adopted as a title, I'm not sure why you wouldn't italicize it anyway--within that sentence, the words "The White Album" are functioning as a title.

Because it's an album that's white, not an album titled The White Album (although tbf the only white thing about it is the cover so maybe you're otm).

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 25 December 2017 03:52 (six years ago) link

The White Album is an essay collection by Joan Didion

.oO (silby), Monday, 25 December 2017 03:57 (six years ago) link

I'm dreaming of a white album

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 December 2017 04:02 (six years ago) link

It’s a White Album, and I’m living with a White Album.

Steely Rodin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 25 December 2017 04:07 (six years ago) link

I'm actually interested in stuff like this.

Because it's an album that's white, not an album titled The White Album

But people aren't using "the white album" descriptively ("the album the Beatles did that's white"), they've adopted it, rightly or wrongly, as the title. As such, it should be italicized. I'm trying to think of a parallel example and I can't.

clemenza, Monday, 25 December 2017 05:07 (six years ago) link

great album

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Monday, 25 December 2017 05:07 (six years ago) link

There's a counter-parallel of sorts: you wouldn't write The Great Album.

clemenza, Monday, 25 December 2017 05:10 (six years ago) link

It’s actually The White Album’s Monster

.oO (silby), Monday, 25 December 2017 05:57 (six years ago) link

I'm very confused by this. ITunes is confirming that my digital version of the white album is 94 minutes. However, I DID listen to it on a single C90 cassette for years, and this is how I first knew it. I don't notice any differences between my current digital version and my old cassette.


in my limited experience, blank tapes always had around 1-2 minutes more recording time per side than advertised

brimstead, Monday, 25 December 2017 06:12 (six years ago) link

But people aren't using "the white album" descriptively ("the album the Beatles did that's white"), they've adopted it, rightly or wrongly, as the title. As such, it should be italicized. I'm trying to think of a parallel example and I can't.

Zep 4 comes to mind as next most famous case, and to a lesser extent the self-titled first Jackson Browne album, which actually did get rebranded on the CD spin as "Saturate Before Using".

Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 25 December 2017 07:43 (six years ago) link

The Beatles’ Best Album

LimbsKing, Monday, 25 December 2017 07:49 (six years ago) link

I recall among my indie kid friendship group in the early 90s that various self titled debut albums went by the name on the label; calling The House Of Love's albums Creation and Fontana for example. There must be better known versions of this.

piscesx, Monday, 25 December 2017 11:35 (six years ago) link

can confirm that c90 tapes had about 46-46.5 mins per side

Simon H., Monday, 25 December 2017 11:52 (six years ago) link

calling The House Of Love's albums Creation and Fontana for example.

one of them was referred to as The German Album. And this later actually came to be called The German Album for a (non-German) CD rerelease, that title appearing on the spine. Hasn't happened for rereleases of The Beatles' white album, though.

dorsalstop, Monday, 25 December 2017 12:02 (six years ago) link

"hatful of bollocks"

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 25 December 2017 12:10 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 31 December 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

Oh right, this is how the people of ILM chose to spend their time in the run up to and over the Christmas period. Well, doesn't that say it all?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Sunday, 31 December 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 1 January 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link

Right, that’s sorted then, innit

Dr. Winston ‘Merritone’ Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 January 2018 00:41 (six years ago) link

It is, yes. Lock thread

Mark G, Monday, 1 January 2018 01:12 (six years ago) link

Although, that's 30 votes for variants of the white album

Mark G, Monday, 1 January 2018 01:14 (six years ago) link

put another way, "the beatles" lost 28-46. glad we got that sorted.

Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Monday, 1 January 2018 01:35 (six years ago) link

i can't help but wonder if calling this album by the band's name was some kind of lennon-ish prank, like they knew that it would result in endless abbott and costello style confusion ("have you listened to 'the beatles' yet?")

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 1 January 2018 01:56 (six years ago) link

Now I'm curious... who started calling it The White Album? Did fans just organically begin to refer to it as such? Did some critic coin the name and it happened to stick? Did it come from anyone associated with the band? Were people calling it The White Album back in 1968 or did that name develop sometime later?

Ex Slacker, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 03:29 (six years ago) link

my mom for all her days referred to that one mamas and the papas record as "the bathtub album." i think for people not super invested in ~album titles~ it could have emerged pretty organically among the general population.

Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 03:51 (six years ago) link

I guess I don't care what the title is but a long time ago when I first discovered this record existed I figured it was untitled and not self-titled but what the fuck do I know

billstevejim, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 08:45 (six years ago) link

Did they purposely release this album on the 5-year anniversary of JFK?

billstevejim, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 08:50 (six years ago) link

I guess it's quite common for s/t albums to be referred to by their album art - always knew Pearl Jam as the avocado album
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Jam_(album)

niels, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 08:56 (six years ago) link

beautiful quote:

McCready said, "That symbolizes just kind of ... Ed's at the end of the process and said, for all I care right now, we've done such a good job on this record, and we're kind of tired from it. Let's throw an avocado on the cover. I think that's what happened, and our art director goes, hey, that's not a bad idea. I think we were watching the Super Bowl, and we had some guacamole or something."

niels, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 08:58 (six years ago) link

always been surprised more ppl don't call the kinda awkwardly titled velvet underground and nico "the banana album"

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 09:02 (six years ago) link

I think I mostly call it the banana album

niels, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 09:47 (six years ago) link

I saw someone call it Andy Warhol recently.

dorsalstop, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 09:55 (six years ago) link

Oh, and in the record shop where I worked in the 90s the database entry had 'Velvet Underground, The' as the artist, and '& Nico' as the title.

dorsalstop, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 09:58 (six years ago) link

was Nico really not in the band at that point?

niels, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 10:51 (six years ago) link

No, that was Yoko.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 10:58 (six years ago) link

instantrimshot.com

niels, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 11:13 (six years ago) link

That Pearl Jam story...I think I love them now

brimstead, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:47 (six years ago) link

put another way, "the beatles" lost 28-46. glad we got that sorted.

― Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Sunday, December 31, 2017 7:35 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol i love this

budo jeru, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 23:07 (six years ago) link


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