Star Wars 8 shit talk

I also noticed that when Finn puts the box over BB-8 to disguise him, BB-8 starts making mouse droid noises as they walk down the halls.

I like how he’s shown rolling into the wall and knocking a panel loose and they just wander past

best part was the spit roasted porg still having its two feet sticking out

I was at a party last night and talked to someone who cited the milking scene as proof that, while they thought TFA was too familiar, this movie had gone wayyyyy too far into crazytown, barely recognizable as a Star Wars movie, etc. My mouth said "oh well yeah but wasn't it kinda cool to see something besides wookies and imperial walkers and wasn't the whole plot basically Empire Strikes Back" but my mind was saying "wtf is wrong with you."

What stopped the empire from smashing tie fighters at lightspeed at the ‘out of reach’ rebel ship?

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, December 17, 2017 1:28 PM (one week ago) Bookmark

TIE fighters don't have hyperdrives, duh. any star wars fan on the street knows that

thoughts from an ex TIE Fighter (Collector's CD-ROM) space jockey:

-the resistance bombers were pretty stupid. i get that they're a reference to the TIE bombers bombing the asteroids in empire. but needing to drop the bombs with a remote control was a stupid plot device to set up KMT's sister's heroic sacrifice/death

-disappointed that all that was needed to blow out the bridge was a couple of proton torpedos, and the shields were still up! lowers the stakes for arvel crynyd's suicide run in ROTJ

xxpost lol I'm with you, that is the weirdest logic. the prequels got away from the lived-in depiction of home worlds, with odd-looking native creatures, weird foods, and unusual local rituals, and one of the nice things about the sequels is that they've brought those moments back.

the prequels, when they even bothered to try it, had cringeworthy moments like the diner cook with the Brooklynite mannerisms.

barely recognizable as a Star Wars movie = if there'd been a scene where Rey draws Kylo naked or something

nobody’s commented on Finn’s leaking waterbed stillsuit!

― El Tomboto, Sunday, December 17, 2017 9:09 PM (one week ago) Bookmark

resistance doesn't have the credits to afford full bacta tanks huh

xpost I thought about that with the bridge too. I never feel like I'm strong on what shields will deflect and what will weaken them/etc so I usually just go with it, but I did think about that moment.

I watch this afternoon. It better be good, motherfuckers.

I've decided that it is good and that I will see it again to enjoy the good parts some more. Just be sure to go to the bathroom beforehand and don't drink anything during the movie.

catheter or not a real fan IMO

best part is that Luke is a character in Stardew Valley

best part is that now we have an origin story for star wars blue milk

https://i.imgur.com/MFDJ8Kq.jpg

I love how Aunt Beru apparently attended Tupperware parties.

best part is that Luke is a character in Stardew Valley

i liked it when luke said the name of the movie out loud. i don't think that's happened in a SW to date? i haven't seen the prequels since they first came out in theaters

I would have loved if Obi-Wan sensed a disturbance in the force and, unable to determine its source, muttered "it must be a *phantom* menace"

I do have to admit despite my love of TLJ, the opening crawl was one of the weakest.

it would have been tough to work the title into AOTC since an "attack of the clones" is not, iirc, part of the plot

The only thing that annoyed me about that scene was that she waited so long to do it. She just stood and waited while the transporters got shot down.

― Frederik B, Friday, December 22, 2017 12:20 PM (four days ago) Bookmark

the whole gambit was to have the transports escape while cloaked bc the first order would be too focused on chasing the mon calamari cruiser. immediately hyperdrive ramming after the transports were away would have been too suspicious

xpost if Lucas had managed it in the og SW would he have to change the dialogue when he rebranded it as Ep 4

xpost I thought about that with the bridge too. I never feel like I'm strong on what shields will deflect and what will weaken them/etc so I usually just go with it, but I did think about that moment.

― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, December 26, 2017 4:18 PM (forty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's a sequence right before this where they transfer all the shield power to the back of the cruiser

ahh, missed that. thanks!

Yeah, it's an exchange -- Ren chokes Hux, says "The Supreme Leader is dead," and Hux chokes out "Long live the Supreme Leader" in response. It's a very efficient coronation.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, December 23, 2017 10:11 AM (three days ago) Bookmark

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_king_is_dead,_long_live_the_king!

thoughts from an ex TIE Fighter (Collector's CD-ROM) space jockey:

lol I was muttering all this stuff to my wife during the fight sequence 'thats a b wing, thats an a wing, thats a nebulon b frigate'

I also noticed that when Finn puts the box over BB-8 to disguise him, BB-8 starts making mouse droid noises as they walk down the halls.

― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Sunday, December 24, 2017 6:42 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I like how he’s shown rolling into the wall and knocking a panel loose and they just wander past

― Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Sunday, December 24, 2017 8:21 PM (two days ago) Bookmark

i like that BB-8 is capable of hotwiring an AT-ST and make it run on the fly to the shuttle but can't roll around with a lampshade stuck on its head

final thoughts: i liked the movie, it did enough. i feel a little pessimistic heading into the final movie though - these two have admirably killed yr idols (i suppose saving leia for the third, now oops) so now left with a new cast who aside from kylo feel pretty blank

kinda disagree.. driver-boyega-ridley is as strong as ford-fisher-hammill imo but if they fucked that casting up this trilogy would be kinda doomed

the acting is fine / they look great on screen but i dunno if the heft is there. secret son of darth vader / princess and former senator / smuggler with a heart of gold is just sort of more fun to dream about than force adept street urchin / ex-brainwashed stormtrooper / hot shot fly boy

yeah i hear what you're saying. i think they're great fun characters that kids are probably daydreaming about. "force adept street urchin" is a totally cool origin, i bet kids daydream about climbing around on that big crashed spaceship and finding stuff and they go out in the backyard and imagine they're in the desert just scraping by and it's sad but they are brave anyway. i bet they daydream about being told to be evil and then they realize they have to be good and escape. what a cool moment to relive! anyway, y'know, kids love iron man who is a rich asshole, and so on. though i think it'd be better if they could share more adventures together, this is part of dreaming (see the success of harry potter). "empire" separated luke off on his own but the rest of the established heroes were all together, getting organic relationships and comic relief out of their interactions and personalities. that's one thing i think TLJ kind of bungled.

it's also probably true that any series on its eighth film is going to be at least a little bit burdened by its own history. it's harder to paint in really big, mythic, archetypal strokes when we know this much about the world. in the first film, the same brushstroke that invents a hero is also establishing the stakes and rules of the universe: luke is a farmboy okay there are farmers here and they buy and sell robots like farm equipment, fine, and he wants to go away and join the space academy and his friends are space pilots, i guess that's a thing that happens, and there's a rebellion against something... all nicely vague but evocative. now all that stuff is inevitably much more specific and exists before we meet the characters.

Didn't like Boyega as much in this as in TFA. I generally liked TFA more, probably because it so slavishly recreated the vibe of the original while introducing new, likeable characters.

I still enjoyed TLJ, but it was a weird experience because it was trying very hard to stand apart from the series tonally, more so than any other SW film so far. I applaud the boldness, it worked in many places, but felt off at times as well. There were also too many cringe-worthy attempts at humor.

The strongest sequences were with Rey and Luke. I was just so happy to see Luke back again because he's always been my favorite SW character. Was a bit sad they offed him in the end without giving him a real badass fight scene.

The chemistry between Kylo and Rey was also nice. I hope that develops more in the next one.

My standout WTF moments:

Luke indignantly chugging milk from a slimy sea dweller.

Chewbacca being guilted into vegetarianism.

Laura Dern continuing her 2017 tradition of wearing wacky colored wigs.

After that pointed introduction between Rey and Poe, I'm pretty much assuming they will go love triangle with it and have her torn between connecting with him or Ben. Until the brother sister thing, the original trilogy relied heavily on the Luke/Leia/Han tension, so it would be very Star Wars-y.

first thing my cousin and me discussed in a xmas day analysis of TLJ was 'WTF was up with that brush-dirt-off-the-shoulder moment??' he's a bit like me; loves the movies but not a fanboy. i think that moment is going to have a grim afterlife. i REALLY wish it wasn't there.

The "shipper" name options for Poe and Rey would be either "Prey" or "Reypoe," both of which are, er, problematic.

Poe/Rey is nonsense I won’t hear of it

The love triangle is obviously Finn torn between Rose and Poe

^^ lol dont forget poe's truest love, bb8

lol otm

first thing my cousin and me discussed in a xmas day analysis of TLJ was 'WTF was up with that brush-dirt-off-the-shoulder moment??' he's a bit like me; loves the movies but not a fanboy. i think that moment is going to have a grim afterlife. i REALLY wish it wasn't there.

i was fine with it, seemed clear that it was meant to further enrage driver

he should have put his hand up to his forehead and made the ‘loser’ sign imo

people who say Rey is a Mary Sue are off-base, BB-8 is the true Mary Sue

then again, so was R2...

Chewbacca and Lt Konnix have a secret, off-screen romance

nah chewie’s smashing those space nuns for sure

i was actually legit confused when luke's super subtle force push did not appear to actually dislodge anything, so alien to the world of star wars is the symbology of shoulder-dirt-brushing for me

it would have been possibly even cheesier for the at-ats to tumble sequentially into each other like the choppers parked outside the biker bar in pee wee's big adventure at that moment but it's what my mind wanted

I mostly liked this! Kinda sad this grouchy version of Luke won’t be back (?)

In retrospect, this one took the meta-referentiality of TFA to the only place it could really go. Not that I don’t appreciate the audaciousness of it.

finn is way less irritating in this movie than in tfa

i also think the humor works way better in tlj than in tfa or rogue one, but i seem to be alone there. only good laugh in tfa is 3po’s red arm

I mentioned to my older sister (who introduced me to the original trilogy when I was little) that seeing Luke deploy what was essentially the myth of his own heroism in the climax was an intense experience in a Jungian kind of way.

Xpost nah the humor was far better here. Finn's comedy bits in TFA were shit