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c'mon 'bodak yellow' is better than 'my shit'

flopson, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 07:02 (six years ago) link

'ooouu' seems like a good comparison; loved it last year but couldn't remember how it sounded until i put it on just now, mayyy not recall bodak a year from now lol

flopson, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 07:04 (six years ago) link

As someone who doesn’t live in the US the only exposure I can get to Bodak Yellow must be self inflicted. I’ve listened to it 5 times since October and I don’t have the faintest clue why it’s so popular in the US. I still don’t remember a single thing about it nor am I inclined to listen to it another time.

A year from now you’ll all be joinining me as noone will remember this forgettable piece of trap.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 07:16 (six years ago) link

lol @ 'self inflicted'

flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 07:17 (six years ago) link

i don't really listen to this type of music, but i feel like it doesn't stand out from what little i've heard. and while i found it pretty catchy (and occasionally striking, like when she rapped about her vagina) it also seemed kind of flat. i would rather just listen to gangsta boo, trina, remy ma, etc etc etc instead. maybe i'm just old. actually i know i'm old, and that's the ultimate old person stance to take a new music. whatever, i voted ok song.

also flopson and call all destroyer otm i think.

the late great, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 07:23 (six years ago) link

i know the artists i named have different styles from cardi b (and each other) so i don't mean to draw too strong a comparison. just naming some artists that appeal to me more. it sounds like from what people are saying here she has this huge personality but it doesn't really come through for me in this song.

the late great, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 07:28 (six years ago) link

i am curious

She’s been hugely famous before she had a recording career. Was the obvious breakout star on love & hip hop & iirc appeared on fader before she’d even recorded a mixtape. She was a significant instagram celeb before reality tv. ... She got a million dollar deal at Atlantic when no other female rappers are getting deals at that level, because she was a proven star. ... it’s unquestionable that labels thought she was a better bet than literally any other rapper bc she was already a proven public personality
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40)

how does this work? is she like super-good at social media or something?

the late great, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 07:29 (six years ago) link

She was a pro stripper & Instagram girl who was hugely popular & conveyed tons of personality thru online video before getting picked up for love & hip hop, which propelled her even higher cuz she was such an obvious star & also kind of outspoken

This thing went viral, where she tells off Peter gunz (yes that Peter gunz)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4023vn

fwiw I find her pretty likeable, the notion that she’s somehow the best female rapper out & should be deified as an artist ultimately sells short hip hop as an art form imo, in order to prop her up

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 07:40 (six years ago) link

She was a pro stripper & Instagram girl who was hugely popular & conveyed tons of personality thru online video before getting picked up for love & hip hop, which propelled her even higher cuz she was such an obvious star & also kind of outspoken

This thing went viral, where she tells off Peter gunz (yes that Peter gunz)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4023vn

fwiw I find her pretty likeable, the notion that she’s somehow the best female rapper out & should be deified as an artist ultimately sells short hip hop as an art form imo, in order to prop her up

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 07:40 (six years ago) link

Damn double post

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 07:41 (six years ago) link

haha lol he got roasted

the late great, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 07:43 (six years ago) link

As someone who doesn’t live in the US the only exposure I can get to Bodak Yellow must be self inflicted. I’ve listened to it 5 times since October and I don’t have the faintest clue why it’s so popular in the US. I still don’t remember a single thing about it nor am I inclined to listen to it another time.

haha, this is v otm - it takes some effort to follow the US scene in this regard

a song as forgettable as Black Beatles for me

niels, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 09:14 (six years ago) link

black beatles >>>>> bodak yellow

ufo, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 09:16 (six years ago) link

yeah I hear a lot of rap out (not in usa) & haven't heard this song until now, when I'm streaming it chez moi. looks like it hit #70 on the chart here. usa rap does fine here, "black beatles" hit #2.

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 09:28 (six years ago) link

im not at all surprised its popular, its built on the gulf between rap smashes & pop smashes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE_-obgiWm0

and the fact that a massive portion of the population has no idea what this song is, and another smaller portion (though still huge... 123 million views huge) treated it as one of the most important songs of the last 5 years

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 10:08 (six years ago) link

not putting myself through reading the shitty opinions on this thread, this song is great

a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 10:15 (six years ago) link

back in march 2016 a basically-unknown female rapper from Texas named Asian Doll flipped her own freestyle version of that song & it went viral among hip hop / soundcloud / youtube teens, setting off a bunch of female rap imitators & launching her mainly underground career.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU2-XKlKoEw

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 10:17 (six years ago) link

im not saying this to delegitimize cardi b or this song or whatever, ppl can like it all they want, just think this context puts the hyperbole in perspective ... ppl can of course love pop songs by charismatic stars which lift from less well known auteurs (sometimes i do in spite of this) to me its hard to take it out of the dispiriting sense of nyc trend hopping & claiming the crown for it

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 10:22 (six years ago) link

based on a comprehensive listen to the EOY traxnoms, ppl should be listening to rico nasty over cardi b

Cardi Acs (imago), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 11:21 (six years ago) link

I prefer her bit in "Motor Sport"

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 12:20 (six years ago) link

A little catchy, and I like her slow “cuttaaaaa...niggaaaaaaa...” delivery. It’s okay.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 14:15 (six years ago) link

I see it’s one of those “the title has fuckall to do with the song” kinda songs.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link

she's def got personality especially compared to 21 Savage who is a black hole of charisma

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 14:21 (six years ago) link

I voted "great" because I liked it the first time I heard it and I haven't gotten tired of it yet. I actually like it better than "No Flockin," but I also like that she named it in tribute (and also made a ton of money for Kodak Black). I like her new one too.

Fwiw in re its popularity my wife, at best a casual hip-hop fan, loves it. Maybe Cardi's voice and persona help put across trap fundamentals to people they would otherwise bounce off -- which means trap fundamentalists roll their eyes, along with people who don't like trap at all.

the first solo female rapper #1 since 1998 when lauryn hill did it

This factoid surprised me mainly because I would've figured Missy had a couple. But "Work It" only got to #2. Robbed.

Kinda reminds me of the Cash Me Outside girl. Does she rap yet? Is she part of this discourse?

Answering own question:

labels are even more into signing people with already existing celebrity these days even if it’s more “notoriety” than anything else. the whole “let the police reports act as the one sheets” wave, bhad bhabie, etc. i know i know pia zadora put out albums too but there’s something much more craven about this edition of it

― maura

lol

how's life, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 14:29 (six years ago) link

Eh, I think that kind of reading is selling her short. Cardi may or may not have staying power, but she's gotten where she is on her own chutzpah.

Good song, with several memorable lines, and it's awesome to see the videos of crowds shouting the words, but I still feel like the year-end dominance is more a reaction to her inspiring-as-hell overarching arc, not so much to the actual song.

porg and bess (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link

I think it's fair to wonder if Bodak would've topped year-end lists if the song didn't reach #1 on the charts (unseating Taylor Swift, no less)

porg and bess (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link

at the very least this is a fun song and she's an engaging personality and has a good way of rapping imo and if i started a list of "what's wrong w. popular music and/or hip hop in 2017" she'd be about 10,000th on the list

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link

I think the reason it’s twken off with fans of female rappers is obvious: there aren’t too many female rappers actively making good songs engaged with the culture who’ve been invested in to the extent that is true of male rappers

I can complain all day (and do) that Post Malone (worse than cardi) is topping the charts instead of artists i think are better and more original creative etc but to some extent you have to think, this is what America wants

W cardi I feel like the disparity between female rappers being taken seriously and the one who gets the biggest platform for crossover artists is almost certainly not accidental but by design... and that her rarity (to people who don’t pay attention to the genre closely ie most people) means she ends up on the receiving end of the audience’s enthusiasm bc there’s no one else there

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link

(But of course there are artists there; people just don’t know about them)

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link

This thing went viral, where she tells off Peter gunz (yes that Peter gunz)

oh, THAT Peter gunz

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link

It's funny how some people get annoyed by reading things like that referring to people they don't know... I'm always intrigued and just use google..

brimstead, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link

This thing went viral, where she tells off Peter gunz (yes that Peter gunz)

haha amazing...what ever happened to Cory Gunz? i suppose his closest brush with fame was when Shaq did his "Kobe, tell me how my ass taste" freestyle at one of his shows

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link

btw was not familiar w/Asian Doll and she's probably a "better" rapper in ways than Cardi but at the same time let's not pretend there's not an energy and catchiness to "Bodak Yellow" that that No Flocking freestyle does not have...I mean there's a lot of good freestyles on the internet I could go find 10 as good as that right now

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link

I wasn't annoyed

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link

Since it’s only truly big in the US (and UK I think?) I’m assuming it’s driven by cult of personality and her media presence over there rather than by the actual quality of the song.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link

bodak yellow is one of those sassy cartoons starring an anthropomorphic animal i haven't gotten around to seeing yet

bob lefse (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link

I thought "(yes that Peter gunz)" was amusing. Like "oh, not some other Peter Gunz that you might not have heard of! This is definitely your father's Peter gunz, and make SURE you don't initialise his surname!"

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link

Voted "good song"

kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link

Since it’s only truly big in the US (and UK I think?) I’m assuming it’s driven by cult of personality and her media presence over there rather than by the actual quality of the song.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, December 26, 2017 12:15 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if this was all it took why hasn't it happened for a dozen other washed up or never were rappers on Love & Hip Hop?

I mean, like it's not exactly my bag but when I finally looked up Bodak Yellow after hearing about it you could just hear that it was a hit

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link

btw was not familiar w/Asian Doll and she's probably a "better" rapper in ways than Cardi but at the same time let's not pretend there's not an energy and catchiness to "Bodak Yellow" that that No Flocking freestyle does not have...I mean there's a lot of good freestyles on the internet I could go find 10 as good as that right now

― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, December 26, 2017 12:10 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I guess but i think the success & months of forced sing a long bs has made ppl more reverting to cardi’s version than they otherwise would be

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link

*reverent

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link

the cash me outside girl does in fact now rap

Danielle Bregoli Peskowitz (born March 26, 2003), also known by her stage name Bhad Bhabie (pronounced "bad baby"), is an American rapper and social media personality.

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link

The most important rappers with the best songs are cardi b, bhad bhabie, and post malone

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link

corey gunz is on the new lil wayne tape (dedication 6)

ANU (sisilafami), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link

xp nobody says that

porg and bess (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link

I'll say this: Kesha's "Praying" is more inexplicably overrated.

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

ok no

although it's certainly not the best track on rainbow

Cardi Acs (imago), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link

I'll say this: Kesha's "Praying" is more inexplicably overrated.

cosign

she's indicated in interviews that becoming a parent really got in the road, but i don't think that's the only thing

ufo, Monday, 31 October 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

She just won a $3.8mm verdict in a defamation suit against a YouTuber (Cardi took the stand and everything), but not sure how much something like that would slow the wheels.

Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Monday, 31 October 2022 22:29 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

so...is she ever putting out another album? seems like something weird is going on at this point

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, October 31, 2022 5:03 PM (seven months ago) bookmarkflaglink

i wonder if it's ever coming out

....seven months pass

great verse here tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WtNCR3EDS4

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Friday, 2 June 2023 14:21 (ten months ago) link

I think she kind of retired to be a mother.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 2 June 2023 14:24 (ten months ago) link

wtf is a john?

― Mr. Snrub, Monday, April 1, 2019 6:48 PM (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink

hahahaha

― cheese canopy (map), Monday, April 1, 2019 6:53 PM (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink

correct me if i'm wrong? but i think it's a fan of gorillaz

― cheese canopy (map), Monday, April 1, 2019 6:56 PM (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink

budo jeru, Friday, 2 June 2023 14:55 (ten months ago) link

Can't remember if this has been discussed upthread, but what would be the benefit of her putting out another album at this point? Why not just drops songs/features every few months for the rest of time?

I guess an album rollout would be a bigger publicity bump, but she seems to be doing just fine.

alpine static, Friday, 2 June 2023 15:02 (ten months ago) link

Album is usually linked to a tour, which she may not be ready for yet.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 2 June 2023 15:10 (ten months ago) link

i think she pretty quickly reached the level of celebrity where, in terms of income, music becomes a secondary concern. at this point she has definitely done a number of endorsement deals that brought or bring her more money than she makes off even a big hit. and i don't think it's an insult to cardi to say that music was prob a means to an end for her as opposed to an insatiable burning artistic desire. and those ends have been reached

J0rdan S., Friday, 2 June 2023 15:15 (ten months ago) link

haha yeah i guess i think of musicians as wanting to make albums because they like making albums but i guess this is definitely more of an overall entertainment brand thing.

i suppose in a way, an album is risky, if it's perceived as a dud it would damage things.

i don't mean to imply that she's never gonna put an album out again or anything. i'm positive she's recorded more than enough music in the last few years to put another full length out. but given that she's raising kids, makes more money off non music endeavors and is still collecting off huge hits... i don't think there's an onus on her to do much more than highly selective features. i think president keyes is right that it will prob be tied to when she's ready to go out on the road

J0rdan S., Friday, 2 June 2023 16:48 (ten months ago) link

all aligned with what i was thinking ... i can't remember if she has *ever* toured extensively, but yeah ... she doesn't need touring or an album at this point.

we'll probably get a new album and tour in 10 years or w/e when other revenues decline.

i guess i asked my question because i don't think there's necessarily something weird going on.

also, Cardi seems like she'd be a fun mom!

alpine static, Friday, 2 June 2023 17:16 (ten months ago) link

yeah that all makes a lot of sense

still tru, btw:

Get Up 10 is fire

― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

alpine static, Friday, 2 June 2023 17:40 (ten months ago) link

just reiterating that her verse on this is really good, even better than "tomorrow 2" imo

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Friday, 2 June 2023 18:07 (ten months ago) link


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