Bodak Yellow is:

She was a pro stripper & Instagram girl who was hugely popular & conveyed tons of personality thru online video before getting picked up for love & hip hop, which propelled her even higher cuz she was such an obvious star & also kind of outspoken

This thing went viral, where she tells off Peter gunz (yes that Peter gunz)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4023vn

fwiw I find her pretty likeable, the notion that she’s somehow the best female rapper out & should be deified as an artist ultimately sells short hip hop as an art form imo, in order to prop her up

She was a pro stripper & Instagram girl who was hugely popular & conveyed tons of personality thru online video before getting picked up for love & hip hop, which propelled her even higher cuz she was such an obvious star & also kind of outspoken

This thing went viral, where she tells off Peter gunz (yes that Peter gunz)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4023vn

fwiw I find her pretty likeable, the notion that she’s somehow the best female rapper out & should be deified as an artist ultimately sells short hip hop as an art form imo, in order to prop her up

Damn double post

haha lol he got roasted

As someone who doesn’t live in the US the only exposure I can get to Bodak Yellow must be self inflicted. I’ve listened to it 5 times since October and I don’t have the faintest clue why it’s so popular in the US. I still don’t remember a single thing about it nor am I inclined to listen to it another time.

haha, this is v otm - it takes some effort to follow the US scene in this regard

a song as forgettable as Black Beatles for me

black beatles >>>>> bodak yellow

yeah I hear a lot of rap out (not in usa) & haven't heard this song until now, when I'm streaming it chez moi. looks like it hit #70 on the chart here. usa rap does fine here, "black beatles" hit #2.

im not at all surprised its popular, its built on the gulf between rap smashes & pop smashes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE_-obgiWm0

and the fact that a massive portion of the population has no idea what this song is, and another smaller portion (though still huge... 123 million views huge) treated it as one of the most important songs of the last 5 years

not putting myself through reading the shitty opinions on this thread, this song is great

back in march 2016 a basically-unknown female rapper from Texas named Asian Doll flipped her own freestyle version of that song & it went viral among hip hop / soundcloud / youtube teens, setting off a bunch of female rap imitators & launching her mainly underground career.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU2-XKlKoEw

im not saying this to delegitimize cardi b or this song or whatever, ppl can like it all they want, just think this context puts the hyperbole in perspective ... ppl can of course love pop songs by charismatic stars which lift from less well known auteurs (sometimes i do in spite of this) to me its hard to take it out of the dispiriting sense of nyc trend hopping & claiming the crown for it

based on a comprehensive listen to the EOY traxnoms, ppl should be listening to rico nasty over cardi b

I prefer her bit in "Motor Sport"

A little catchy, and I like her slow “cuttaaaaa...niggaaaaaaa...” delivery. It’s okay.

I see it’s one of those “the title has fuckall to do with the song” kinda songs.

she's def got personality especially compared to 21 Savage who is a black hole of charisma

I voted "great" because I liked it the first time I heard it and I haven't gotten tired of it yet. I actually like it better than "No Flockin," but I also like that she named it in tribute (and also made a ton of money for Kodak Black). I like her new one too.

Fwiw in re its popularity my wife, at best a casual hip-hop fan, loves it. Maybe Cardi's voice and persona help put across trap fundamentals to people they would otherwise bounce off -- which means trap fundamentalists roll their eyes, along with people who don't like trap at all.

the first solo female rapper #1 since 1998 when lauryn hill did it

This factoid surprised me mainly because I would've figured Missy had a couple. But "Work It" only got to #2. Robbed.

Kinda reminds me of the Cash Me Outside girl. Does she rap yet? Is she part of this discourse?

Answering own question:

labels are even more into signing people with already existing celebrity these days even if it’s more “notoriety” than anything else. the whole “let the police reports act as the one sheets” wave, bhad bhabie, etc. i know i know pia zadora put out albums too but there’s something much more craven about this edition of it

― maura

lol

Eh, I think that kind of reading is selling her short. Cardi may or may not have staying power, but she's gotten where she is on her own chutzpah.

Good song, with several memorable lines, and it's awesome to see the videos of crowds shouting the words, but I still feel like the year-end dominance is more a reaction to her inspiring-as-hell overarching arc, not so much to the actual song.

I think it's fair to wonder if Bodak would've topped year-end lists if the song didn't reach #1 on the charts (unseating Taylor Swift, no less)

at the very least this is a fun song and she's an engaging personality and has a good way of rapping imo and if i started a list of "what's wrong w. popular music and/or hip hop in 2017" she'd be about 10,000th on the list

I think the reason it’s twken off with fans of female rappers is obvious: there aren’t too many female rappers actively making good songs engaged with the culture who’ve been invested in to the extent that is true of male rappers

I can complain all day (and do) that Post Malone (worse than cardi) is topping the charts instead of artists i think are better and more original creative etc but to some extent you have to think, this is what America wants

W cardi I feel like the disparity between female rappers being taken seriously and the one who gets the biggest platform for crossover artists is almost certainly not accidental but by design... and that her rarity (to people who don’t pay attention to the genre closely ie most people) means she ends up on the receiving end of the audience’s enthusiasm bc there’s no one else there

(But of course there are artists there; people just don’t know about them)

This thing went viral, where she tells off Peter gunz (yes that Peter gunz)

oh, THAT Peter gunz

It's funny how some people get annoyed by reading things like that referring to people they don't know... I'm always intrigued and just use google..

This thing went viral, where she tells off Peter gunz (yes that Peter gunz)

haha amazing...what ever happened to Cory Gunz? i suppose his closest brush with fame was when Shaq did his "Kobe, tell me how my ass taste" freestyle at one of his shows

btw was not familiar w/Asian Doll and she's probably a "better" rapper in ways than Cardi but at the same time let's not pretend there's not an energy and catchiness to "Bodak Yellow" that that No Flocking freestyle does not have...I mean there's a lot of good freestyles on the internet I could go find 10 as good as that right now

I wasn't annoyed

Since it’s only truly big in the US (and UK I think?) I’m assuming it’s driven by cult of personality and her media presence over there rather than by the actual quality of the song.

bodak yellow is one of those sassy cartoons starring an anthropomorphic animal i haven't gotten around to seeing yet

I thought "(yes that Peter gunz)" was amusing. Like "oh, not some other Peter Gunz that you might not have heard of! This is definitely your father's Peter gunz, and make SURE you don't initialise his surname!"

Voted "good song"

Since it’s only truly big in the US (and UK I think?) I’m assuming it’s driven by cult of personality and her media presence over there rather than by the actual quality of the song.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, December 26, 2017 12:15 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if this was all it took why hasn't it happened for a dozen other washed up or never were rappers on Love & Hip Hop?

I mean, like it's not exactly my bag but when I finally looked up Bodak Yellow after hearing about it you could just hear that it was a hit

btw was not familiar w/Asian Doll and she's probably a "better" rapper in ways than Cardi but at the same time let's not pretend there's not an energy and catchiness to "Bodak Yellow" that that No Flocking freestyle does not have...I mean there's a lot of good freestyles on the internet I could go find 10 as good as that right now

― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, December 26, 2017 12:10 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I guess but i think the success & months of forced sing a long bs has made ppl more reverting to cardi’s version than they otherwise would be

*reverent

the cash me outside girl does in fact now rap

Danielle Bregoli Peskowitz (born March 26, 2003), also known by her stage name Bhad Bhabie (pronounced "bad baby"), is an American rapper and social media personality.

The most important rappers with the best songs are cardi b, bhad bhabie, and post malone

corey gunz is on the new lil wayne tape (dedication 6)

xp nobody says that

I'll say this: Kesha's "Praying" is more inexplicably overrated.

ok no

although it's certainly not the best track on rainbow

I'll say this: Kesha's "Praying" is more inexplicably overrated.

cosign

anyway i'm sure if you like this it'll merely strengthen your convictions but this is boring af and completely bereft of any musical or lyrical interest for me and if it wins it'll follow in a delightful lineage of nonsense that the illexinati (rip) pushed to the eoy #1 (212, wut etc)

you a worker

lol ... imago ... otm?? *looks at hands, they're covered in blood*

xp nobody says that

― porg and bess (voodoo chili), Tuesday, December 26, 2017 12:59 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sure but plenty of ppl who wouldn't give bhad bhabie the time of day dont seem to realize its essentially the same formula but w lil pump in place of kodak black

this is not the last time u and i will be in agreement this poll cycle

*mysteriously vanishes in puff of smoke*

Song of the year. Y’all tripping.

lol @ "bhad bhabie"

Can't remember if this has been discussed upthread, but what would be the benefit of her putting out another album at this point? Why not just drops songs/features every few months for the rest of time?

I guess an album rollout would be a bigger publicity bump, but she seems to be doing just fine.

Album is usually linked to a tour, which she may not be ready for yet.

i think she pretty quickly reached the level of celebrity where, in terms of income, music becomes a secondary concern. at this point she has definitely done a number of endorsement deals that brought or bring her more money than she makes off even a big hit. and i don't think it's an insult to cardi to say that music was prob a means to an end for her as opposed to an insatiable burning artistic desire. and those ends have been reached

haha yeah i guess i think of musicians as wanting to make albums because they like making albums but i guess this is definitely more of an overall entertainment brand thing.

i suppose in a way, an album is risky, if it's perceived as a dud it would damage things.

i don't mean to imply that she's never gonna put an album out again or anything. i'm positive she's recorded more than enough music in the last few years to put another full length out. but given that she's raising kids, makes more money off non music endeavors and is still collecting off huge hits... i don't think there's an onus on her to do much more than highly selective features. i think president keyes is right that it will prob be tied to when she's ready to go out on the road

all aligned with what i was thinking ... i can't remember if she has *ever* toured extensively, but yeah ... she doesn't need touring or an album at this point.

we'll probably get a new album and tour in 10 years or w/e when other revenues decline.

i guess i asked my question because i don't think there's necessarily something weird going on.

also, Cardi seems like she'd be a fun mom!

yeah that all makes a lot of sense

still tru, btw:

Get Up 10 is fire

― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

just reiterating that her verse on this is really good, even better than "tomorrow 2" imo