Star Wars 8 shit talk

Yeah, it's an exchange -- Ren chokes Hux, says "The Supreme Leader is dead," and Hux chokes out "Long live the Supreme Leader" in response. It's a very efficient coronation.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, December 23, 2017 10:11 AM (three days ago) Bookmark

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_king_is_dead,_long_live_the_king!

thoughts from an ex TIE Fighter (Collector's CD-ROM) space jockey:

lol I was muttering all this stuff to my wife during the fight sequence 'thats a b wing, thats an a wing, thats a nebulon b frigate'

I also noticed that when Finn puts the box over BB-8 to disguise him, BB-8 starts making mouse droid noises as they walk down the halls.

― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Sunday, December 24, 2017 6:42 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I like how he’s shown rolling into the wall and knocking a panel loose and they just wander past

― Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Sunday, December 24, 2017 8:21 PM (two days ago) Bookmark

i like that BB-8 is capable of hotwiring an AT-ST and make it run on the fly to the shuttle but can't roll around with a lampshade stuck on its head

final thoughts: i liked the movie, it did enough. i feel a little pessimistic heading into the final movie though - these two have admirably killed yr idols (i suppose saving leia for the third, now oops) so now left with a new cast who aside from kylo feel pretty blank

kinda disagree.. driver-boyega-ridley is as strong as ford-fisher-hammill imo but if they fucked that casting up this trilogy would be kinda doomed

the acting is fine / they look great on screen but i dunno if the heft is there. secret son of darth vader / princess and former senator / smuggler with a heart of gold is just sort of more fun to dream about than force adept street urchin / ex-brainwashed stormtrooper / hot shot fly boy

yeah i hear what you're saying. i think they're great fun characters that kids are probably daydreaming about. "force adept street urchin" is a totally cool origin, i bet kids daydream about climbing around on that big crashed spaceship and finding stuff and they go out in the backyard and imagine they're in the desert just scraping by and it's sad but they are brave anyway. i bet they daydream about being told to be evil and then they realize they have to be good and escape. what a cool moment to relive! anyway, y'know, kids love iron man who is a rich asshole, and so on. though i think it'd be better if they could share more adventures together, this is part of dreaming (see the success of harry potter). "empire" separated luke off on his own but the rest of the established heroes were all together, getting organic relationships and comic relief out of their interactions and personalities. that's one thing i think TLJ kind of bungled.

it's also probably true that any series on its eighth film is going to be at least a little bit burdened by its own history. it's harder to paint in really big, mythic, archetypal strokes when we know this much about the world. in the first film, the same brushstroke that invents a hero is also establishing the stakes and rules of the universe: luke is a farmboy okay there are farmers here and they buy and sell robots like farm equipment, fine, and he wants to go away and join the space academy and his friends are space pilots, i guess that's a thing that happens, and there's a rebellion against something... all nicely vague but evocative. now all that stuff is inevitably much more specific and exists before we meet the characters.

Didn't like Boyega as much in this as in TFA. I generally liked TFA more, probably because it so slavishly recreated the vibe of the original while introducing new, likeable characters.

I still enjoyed TLJ, but it was a weird experience because it was trying very hard to stand apart from the series tonally, more so than any other SW film so far. I applaud the boldness, it worked in many places, but felt off at times as well. There were also too many cringe-worthy attempts at humor.

The strongest sequences were with Rey and Luke. I was just so happy to see Luke back again because he's always been my favorite SW character. Was a bit sad they offed him in the end without giving him a real badass fight scene.

The chemistry between Kylo and Rey was also nice. I hope that develops more in the next one.

My standout WTF moments:

Luke indignantly chugging milk from a slimy sea dweller.

Chewbacca being guilted into vegetarianism.

Laura Dern continuing her 2017 tradition of wearing wacky colored wigs.

After that pointed introduction between Rey and Poe, I'm pretty much assuming they will go love triangle with it and have her torn between connecting with him or Ben. Until the brother sister thing, the original trilogy relied heavily on the Luke/Leia/Han tension, so it would be very Star Wars-y.

first thing my cousin and me discussed in a xmas day analysis of TLJ was 'WTF was up with that brush-dirt-off-the-shoulder moment??' he's a bit like me; loves the movies but not a fanboy. i think that moment is going to have a grim afterlife. i REALLY wish it wasn't there.

The "shipper" name options for Poe and Rey would be either "Prey" or "Reypoe," both of which are, er, problematic.

Poe/Rey is nonsense I won’t hear of it

The love triangle is obviously Finn torn between Rose and Poe

^^ lol dont forget poe's truest love, bb8

lol otm

first thing my cousin and me discussed in a xmas day analysis of TLJ was 'WTF was up with that brush-dirt-off-the-shoulder moment??' he's a bit like me; loves the movies but not a fanboy. i think that moment is going to have a grim afterlife. i REALLY wish it wasn't there.

i was fine with it, seemed clear that it was meant to further enrage driver

he should have put his hand up to his forehead and made the ‘loser’ sign imo

people who say Rey is a Mary Sue are off-base, BB-8 is the true Mary Sue

then again, so was R2...

Chewbacca and Lt Konnix have a secret, off-screen romance

nah chewie’s smashing those space nuns for sure

i was actually legit confused when luke's super subtle force push did not appear to actually dislodge anything, so alien to the world of star wars is the symbology of shoulder-dirt-brushing for me

it would have been possibly even cheesier for the at-ats to tumble sequentially into each other like the choppers parked outside the biker bar in pee wee's big adventure at that moment but it's what my mind wanted

I mostly liked this! Kinda sad this grouchy version of Luke won’t be back (?)

In retrospect, this one took the meta-referentiality of TFA to the only place it could really go. Not that I don’t appreciate the audaciousness of it.

finn is way less irritating in this movie than in tfa

i also think the humor works way better in tlj than in tfa or rogue one, but i seem to be alone there. only good laugh in tfa is 3po’s red arm

I mentioned to my older sister (who introduced me to the original trilogy when I was little) that seeing Luke deploy what was essentially the myth of his own heroism in the climax was an intense experience in a Jungian kind of way.

Xpost nah the humor was far better here. Finn's comedy bits in TFA were shit

x-post: Otm. The shoulder brush was the best moment :(

^^^ THANK YOU

xp to neanderthal

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well i don’t mind the shoulder brush at all either fred

Kinda sad this grouchy version of Luke won’t be back (?)

I think Luke will have at least one force ghost interaction with Rey in IX, esp since I have to assume Leia will die of natural causes in the opening crawl

Some of the comedy in TFA was really good, a lot was hacky in-joke stuff but I think the Finn/Rey "are you okay??" "...Yes?" bit was really good and worked to cement affection for the character. In both films I can point to two or three worst-offender jokes that, if removed, would make for a stronger and more continuously immersive film. The "holding for Hux" bit is just so wrong for the universe in a way that Han's "fine, uh, we're all fine here... how are you?" bit in the original film isn't.

An absurd thought I had while watching is if they had known while making this movie that Carrie Fisher was going to die they could've had Leia be the one to go down with the ship instead of Holdo

Yeah, I found having her character survive when we all know Carrie is gone gave me an odd feeling of hopelessnes.

carrie fisher died like a year ago iirc, probably could have figured some way to kill her off given the 12 times leia almost died and also considering she was not really an important part of the movie anyway....

I just think comedy in big budget films is kind of broken right now.

i assume they have enough b-roll/unused footage to find a resolution for the character. i think they won't go down the CGI route after the general reaction to grand moff tarkin/leia from rogue one.

the humor in this was objectively bad, but par for the SW course

yeah carrie fisher’s family have already ruled out a digital resurrection iirc xp

i assume they have enough b-roll/unused footage to find a resolution for the character. i think they won't go down the CGI route after the general reaction to grand moff tarkin/leia from rogue one.

― 龜, Tuesday, December 26, 2017 9:06 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or they do a time jump for ep 9 and casually mention her passing in the crawl

The "holding for Hux" bit is just so wrong for the universe in a way that Han's "fine, uh, we're all fine here... how are you?" bit in the original film isn't.

they're both of their time imo. the han line is straight from the SNL school of murray/ackroyd-esque bullshit artistry, the hux scene is straight out of the office

y'all should be glad there's no Millennial internet humor in this movie

the shoulder brush kinda counts imo

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AND THAT'S A GOOD THING

heh I really don't think that's what silby meant. the dirt off your shoulder seems antithetical to millennial internet humor actually

milennial normie humor, maybe?

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