Star Wars 8 shit talk

If anything he should turn in the next movie

Biggest flaw in this is that there is still no reason whatsoever for emo dark side boy

he listened to the cure too much

just seen this ten days later than planned due to illness, do i really have to read this whole thread now? sadface.

best bit: steam irons, ship ramming at light speed. i did mostly enjoy rey & luke & kylo being all emo together on the island, though daisy ridley's acting was bad not good.

worst bit, 2 hours and 9 or 12 or 28 acts in and realising there's still a shitload to go. feel like they could have cut one of the umpteen rebel last stands and shaved half an hour off.

weirdest bit, was luke's head just, like, really big? the whole way through?

just seen this ten days later than planned due to illness, do i really have to read this whole thread now?

xp (cf my realisation that Luke looks like Peter Dinklage)

ha my wife said the same thing about luke’s dinklesemblance

Wrinkleage

oh, dinklepaws

Never seen a film with such wildly varying opinions as to what was good and what was bad in it. Fitting.

what a world we live in

luke looks like a lot of people but mostly zizek

i was thinking more Orson Welles

F Is For Force

Interesting thread:

One of the sneakiest awesome things #TheLastJedi did was actually make the midichlorians bullshit pay off.

PUT DOWN THOSE LASER PITCHFORKS AND HEAR ME OUT

— Amelia Rogue (@AmeliaRoseWrite) December 28, 2017

blood greebles <3

I also found this p convincing along similar lines: https://www.tor.com/2017/12/20/thanks-to-the-last-jedi-we-finally-know-what-the-force-awakens-means/

yeah both of those really good - thx!

While many Jedi have a better understanding of the Force, no one has the raw talent of Anakin Skywalker. And that unbridled strength is what seals the fate of the Jedi Order in the long run; when Anakin goes over to Palpatine’s side, the two become unstoppable.

Anyway the whole manipulated-bloodline thing is a terrible plot idea and precisely the kind of family-as-destiny-to-be-embraced-or-overcome nonsense that RJ is using the Rey-as-nobody plot to get *away* from --- trying to fuse them together into a grand Skywalker theory of the series is a move in the wrong direction imo.

omw to my second viewing btw. i cracked and wanna see the red room again :-o

https://frinkiac.com/gif/S09E09/1113361/1117532.gif?b64lines=UkVEIFJPT00uIFJFRCBST09NLgpPdmVyIHRoZXJlLg==

theories that rely on expanded-universe shit (really anything that's not in the movies) tire me the hell out

I honestly tend to call bullshit on it. To me if it's not in the movie it doesn't exist, i shouldn't have to do homework.

That's why the Batman v Supes fans annoyed me "oh well u'd get it if u'd read xxx comic". I mean an easter egg is one thing...actually forcing you to be aware of dis ting to get what's going on is an9ther

otm

the whole manipulated-bloodline thing is a terrible plot idea and precisely the kind of family-as-destiny-to-be-embraced-or-overcome nonsense that RJ is using the Rey-as-nobody plot to get *away* from

I agree its best gotten away from and what I appreciate about this contrivance of the force giving rise to Kylo's opposite is that it allows for that move away from bloodline heroism without altogether jettisoning the obnoxious plot elements of the preqs--it ties them together with a bow, which I find enormously satisfying

luke chucking light saber would have been more satisfying with slide whistle (and caretaker getting bonked in the head with it)

second viewing: still messy and still overlong but knowing everything that was going to happen i was able to relax into it, enjoy the spectacular visuals and the emotional payoffs. was definitely weepier this time and i think it survives the second pass more than TFA did. good movie.

afaic there's Star Wars, Empire, The Ewok One, TFA I guess, Rogue One, and this. Anything else is fanfic.

So it's a Disney movie about murdering your mom. Nice. Also, it was so fucking boring!

lol roger you just named all the star wars movies asides from the prequels. not that i disagree w you

Also, it was so fucking boring!

― erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, December 29, 2017 10:30 PM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There were enough space battles lightsaber battles and chase sequences for a feature length no-dialogue edit what r u after here

yeah and they were all tedious as fuck

ugh what a tedious view of the most beautifully shot sequences ever in this series

I honestly don't understand why anyone who liked ANY of the previous Star Wars movies would dislike this one.

second viewing did make me much more conscious of the editing/bagginess of it and i stand by my belief that this film could shed fifteen minutes or more and be massively improved. there's a lot of redundancy. two different "chewie and porg are at the wheel" gags for example, when the first one nails it. the chase through the casino/streets does one too many "cut to another quiet locale just before they come charging in smashing stuff" bits, and the business with them trying to reach their shuttle (but it gets blown up!) is unnecessary - they could just be caught up in the herd and end up in the bluffs and the sequence would work the same way. cut four of the fourteen bb-8 gags and you've saved several minutes right there. the capture/execution scene with rose and finn and phasma seems to take ten minutes - they keep cutting away from it to the other stories (maybe to cover a confusing continuity issue where hux is suddenly there, suddenly gone - ditto phasma who suddenly seems to have been off in the next hangar when the big dern explosion happens) and when they cut back we get a ten-second reestablishment of what was going on when we left. many different shots establishing that the transports are getting shot down. stuff like that. i almost think benicio gets paid and leaves two different times...

also cut down the entire "run on the cannon" business, the falcon flying through caves, and them finding the exit by slowly realizing the crystal things are gone. these eat up time at a point when the movie feels "over" and only the luke/kylo finale is still compelling material.

so did stable kid pull that broom to his hand using the force or nah

I’m also preferring to believe roger meant Caravan of Courage when he said “the ewok one”

I think he did

so did stable kid pull that broom to his hand using the force or nah

― mh, Friday, December 29, 2017

That's no broom, that's a space setation

I loved this movie but generally agree with Dr C’s editing thoughts.

My theory: Rian Johnson didn’t spend a ton of money on reshoots to patch the story together after the fact, so they let him bring more fx shots to final, e.g. more porgs, more aliens in the casino doing stuff, and since they got finaled they might as well leave em in!

Of course for all I know this could have been how the cut looked from the beginning, maybe the extra stage business is just for tumblr gifs

I agree that the action sequences were boring tbh

The light saber duels in particular were weighty and slow. Our new Vader is not elegant.

The action seqs ruled. Fuuid!

thought fuiud was an underdeveloped character tbh

Also i want a lithograph of Luke's Tiananmen Square moment

I am a saddo w too much money to waste tho

another editing opportunity: spark/fire analogies

You know what would have made this movie perfect is if they had just had the opening crawl, then edited out the rest of the movie. All this unnecessary story, keeping us from the credit sequence that we all paid good money to see!