US Politics, December 2017: I guess there’s always 2018

Two new pieces of fuckery:

the DOT has declared the deal they had with the governors of NY and NJ to pay 50% of the costs of rebuilding the Hudson River train tunnel, one of the most heavily traveled train routes in the US, null and void; and

the Interior Department is rolling back safety rules put in place after the Deepwater Horizon oil spill

this must be the great infrastructure plan we've been waiting for this entire infrastructure week

Yeah, who would have guessed the goal of his infrastructure plan would be to make American infrastructure weaker. Savvy operator, that Trump.

Keeps us on our toes.

we need to cripple that liberal outpost, NYC, in order to make america again

I'm sure a certain kind of Republican agrees!

NYC hated Orange Don first

Some echoes here of my feelings about the stock-as-fuck "Cletus Safari":

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/media-trump-country_us_5a449e8ae4b025f99e199ef8?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

That's funny. I've actually never heard the term "Cletus Safari," which I like almost I much as I liked the Idaho militia people getting tagged Y'all Qaeda.

Have we had an actually helpful piece on all the supporters apparently changing their mind, as reflecting in the polls that show how far even his numbers have dropped over the last year? Or maybe that gets filed under those pieces I've scanned where people like him but don't support him or support him but don't like him or don't like or support him but still want to give him some time.

Cletus safari was invented here iirc?

It wasn’t nevermind

hello, hello, hello how lowwwwww

I thought you were humming "Hello" by the Beloved.

all the supporters apparently changing their mind, as reflecting in the polls that show how far even his numbers have dropped over the last year

Those people exist but I don't think they can be located and interviewed.

Trump's approval declines because some of the people on the "Trump Train" were only on it because they reflexively vote Republican. They could stomach Trump (with whatever degree of enthusiasm) because they aren't capable of voting for Democrats at all (let alone for Clinton). People who voted for Trump a year ago and are now disappointed with him DO exist, but they're not the sort of people who are going to go talk to a reporter in a diner about it.

The Cletus Safari, always and everywhere, will only locate diehards, because those are the people who want to talk about it.

YMP otm. On Friday night I was reminding my brother in law that Nixon still had well over a 20% approval rating on the day he left office. It was shamefully easy to find voters who insisted Watergate was a ginned-up partisan witch hunt over nothing, because "you know as well as I do that everyone does it, and it's no big deal".

New York "Failing" Times going hard at Trump, just spotted this in my inbox

NYTimes.com »

TOP STORIES
President Trump has brought a reality-show accessibility to a once-aloof office, invigorating voters who felt alienated by the establishment
Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:11 PM EST

I was reminding my brother in law that Nixon still had well over a 20% approval rating

yeah if 100% of the people that voted for him never back down that's a bottom floor of ~25% of the population. only about half the country voted at all and we are at a 20 year low in turnout because the two party system just keeps offering worse and worse candidates.

a general approval poll will include a whole bunch of people that didn't vote at all and thus only add statistical noise to the proverbial crystal ball. the two-party system deludes us into thinking half the country supports something when in reality even at his peak it was probably like 1 in 4 people. so not only are polls that ask about general approvals more or less meaningless they are misleading as well.

only about half the country voted at all and we are at a 20 year low in turnout because the two party system just keeps offering worse and worse candidates.

citation needed

"In 1984, Ronald Reagan debated Walter Mondale in Louisville and plainly had no idea where he was"

i lived in louisville for ten years, i can't blame reagan for this at all

Actually, Turrican is right insofar as the Davis-Murray years go from 1976 to 1971. And only one album was recorded in Berlin.

Nice wrong thread response.

From 1976 to 1971?

Carlos Alomar for prez 2020

Turrican / Gabbneb 2028

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