I just put WW in there as a DC film that didn't flop, it obviously did really well, as well as Thor or whatever. The other movies were considered box office disappointments, which is how I meant "underperformed." The Mummy seems like a good candidate, but even that one made over $400 million on a budget of $100 million or so.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 December 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link
yeah none of those are 'flops' unless we're talking critically, which ...isn't what is usually referred to as a flop
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 December 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link
Flopsonned
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link
I might have misread that, each film might have only underperformed, but I'd say the franchise as a whole has flopped.
A lot of films that are intended to start franchises flop, a recent example being The Dark Tower.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link
Justice League 646.7 million USD
That still might not be enough to make a profit for the studio. I'm seeing $750 million as its estimated breakeven point. It was a stupidly expensive film.
The Mummy also reportedly lost a lot of money.
― jmm, Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link
Fantastic Four probably the last major superhero flop
― Number None, Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link
FF clearly only made to maintain rights. I’ve seen better high school plays.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link
the 1994 ashcan copy, or the Michael B Jordan/Kate Mara one
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:32 (six years ago) link
the latter
― Number None, Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link
just wait til Marvel Studios purchases the rights 10 years from now and re-re-reboots it
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:35 (six years ago) link
I knew that was gonna be a stinker when I saw this trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7QzW-siAro
"And what if we say no?""...Say yes."
IF that's the best piece of dialogue you could cobble up for the trailer, damn
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
Disney own Fox now. It'll be much sooner than that
― Number None, Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link
they should have Chris Evans be Human Torch again
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link
Evans joked about that on Twitter when the deal was announced.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link
looking at those DC "flop" numbers are insane, perhaps the current blockbuster film business is just unsustainable
― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 31 December 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link
my original point is that nothing will sink these sequels, let alone spark any sort of substantial box office backlash.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 December 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link
― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), 31. december 2017 19:14 (fifty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It is. The Dark Tower was both a major flop, and the best selling film directed by a Danish director ever. The studious are throwing so much money at stupid ideas with untested directors it's insane. Everyone wants to get the next big Cinematic Universe, or the next Jurassic World.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link
if this business can't figure out a way to make money on selling 3 quarters of a billion in tickets I don't know what to tell them
― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link
I think the marketing costs are scaled to the production costs so you end up with tons of money tacked on to the budgetIt’d be funny if they eschewed tv commercials and major ads for the next Star Wars film and just let it ride on momentum
― mh, Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link
I hope they one up ROTJ and advertise one title up until opening night and then reveal a different title when it opens
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link
Star Wars: Big Ship Go Boom Boom
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:26 (six years ago) link
More thoughts later but a second viewing really does make the film even better watching, and I very much enjoyed it out of the gate. A couple of moments remain drawn out but the pace works very well and I really did enjoy multiple creative moments in both editing and cinematography in particular.Hamill’s performance remains strong but I was taken at how well Ridley and Driver did, especially in the telepathy scenes where the other wasn’t there.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link
honestly they could have just cut out everything that Finn was involved in and you'd have a better, shorter movie
― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link
That would mean losing Rose, and no.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:47 (six years ago) link
she was good but could I live with out that character to ditch cat horses, Del Toro, and slot machine leprechaun?
― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:59 (six years ago) link
better to just trim down the screen time for the horses, del toro, and the slot machine gags. but i've made my case on that one.
― Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link
xpost Faith and begorra. Or is that Force and begorra?
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link
also I just remembered Mr. Leftovers as a weird Hunger Games villain with that brooch lol, man that whole thing was goofy
― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:13 (six years ago) link
Liked the character and actor, but I wish so much of the Rose stuff were not so contrived. Nonsensical bombing raid set up so that her sister gets sacrificed to give her motivation, spontaneous crush on non-entity (and demonstrated coward!) Finn to give her a romantic motivation, culminating in ... a potential suicide run to prevent someone else's suicide run?
Anyway, mentioned earlier but lots of suicides or attempted suicides in this movie!
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:14 (six years ago) link
well, they wanted to make sure it was as difficult as possible for poe to discern when it's a good thing to selflessly throw yourself into the fray for the greater good, and when it's just a needless waste motivated by ego.
― Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link
We’re binging The IT Crowd today and I realized all technical criticisms of how Star Wars works are basically the same as complaining that the IT Crowd building would have at least had smoke detectors.
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link
Yeah my stepmom helpfully incorrectly spoilered the movie for me by saying "the main character dies" and that b/w the divided reception ("A CONTROVERSIAL NEW DIRECTION IN STAR WARS FILMA") really had me thinking Rey was gonna die
Like 10 minutes in it occurred to me this was such an ensemble that "the main character" from her POV could be *anyone* which really raised the stakes for me in every fight/battle sequence (woah , and I really bought that Finn was gonna bite it in that run
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link
Rose as a character is fine but she feels like a plucky Disney sidekick grafted onto a Star Wars film. Also the off-ness of calling a character Rose in the SW universe really grates - other protags have otherly names like Rey, Kylo, Poe, Maz ... even Finn gets away with being a Verizon of his serial number. And then ... Rose.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Sunday, 31 December 2017 23:16 (six years ago) link
ack, version, there isn’t even a company of that name in my country you stupid autocorrect
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Sunday, 31 December 2017 23:17 (six years ago) link
Han, Luke, Leia
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 31 December 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link
Ben, Owen, Bubba, Ray, Rex, Cody, Django
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 31 December 2017 23:54 (six years ago) link
elan sleazebaganno
― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 31 December 2017 23:56 (six years ago) link
did we get a last name? she could be rose sleazebaganno.
― Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Monday, 1 January 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link
well now she’ll be rose sleazebaganno to me until proven otherwise
― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 January 2018 00:04 (six years ago) link
it’s Tico
― El Tomboto, Monday, 1 January 2018 00:05 (six years ago) link
oh right
― Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Monday, 1 January 2018 00:06 (six years ago) link
tombot with the block
― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 January 2018 00:06 (six years ago) link
she was rose sleazebaganno for less then 30 seconds ffs
― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 January 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link
tom lolzblockanno
― Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Monday, 1 January 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link
Han? Leia? Not everyday names to me. Dunno who Bubba is. Django is Jango but I’ll take it. But Rose just sounds like lazy DGAF writing.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Monday, 1 January 2018 00:20 (six years ago) link
“Leia” seems like a variation of “Leah” which is a perfectly ordinary name.
― The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Monday, 1 January 2018 00:21 (six years ago) link
"A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...."
some of their names may sound like some of ours but it's just coincidence
― mark s, Monday, 1 January 2018 00:23 (six years ago) link
Like...really? Obi-Wan goes by Ben in ANH, there's Luke, Luke's uncle is named Owen, all kindsa common names in the uni
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 January 2018 00:47 (six years ago) link
Yoda’s last name? Ho, obviously http://www.tshirtbordello.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/600x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/i/d/idaho-udaho-lg.gif
― El Tomboto, Monday, 1 January 2018 00:47 (six years ago) link
Lucas got the names for the main trio of heroes while at a bar overhearing a dude defending his gf: "look if you lay a hand on her..."
Better than asking his 4 yr old or whoever for prequel names.
― omar little, Monday, 1 January 2018 01:15 (six years ago) link