Rock gods and things that have just.... receded.

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I feel like cash-in greatest hits reunion tours are falling out of favor. Your Pavements, your Neutral Milk Hotels, your RATMs, your Polices... there’s an expectation now that if you come back, you better record some new material, regardless of its quality.

flappy bird, Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link

Whoever said upthread that selling out in hiphop was never a big deal is completely ignorant.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Sunday, 31 December 2017 23:32 (six years ago) link

i think doing music that was considered watering down hip hop was considered selling out, but hip hop has always had a fundamentally different relationship to money and advertising and brands than rock

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 31 December 2017 23:34 (six years ago) link

it was me BTW as my name was under my post

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 31 December 2017 23:34 (six years ago) link

The main way the concept of selling out matters is if you go along with something out of fear of losing something, like not just an improbably lucrative deal, which might be at a brief career peak, get it and sock it away while you can etc., but your whole career---like the former Weinstein assistant who recently broke a confidentiality agreement she seems to have signed mostly out of fear: the deal was, "Take the money and shut up about what you know, or lose everything." Get blacklisted from the Industry, overqualified for Walmart (and no references, duh). And a number of other women in other gigs have said they put up what was being done to them, and/or looked the other way when it happened to somebody else.
he Dixie Chicks became an example: "See, they said that shit, and look what happened to them---you ain't nearly as successful, so just imagine how much worse it could be..."(Later for platinum, the Dixie Chicks went diamond).

dow, Sunday, 31 December 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link

But getting back to the main topic, some/most rock and other gods have receded in my interest just because---well like Van Morrison had a good long run, from the mid-60s to the early 80s at least, and may still be good for all I know---maybe I should check out his album of Mose Allison songs! But prob not. Prolific living geezer-wise, only Willie and Dylan keep me hanging on, and even with the latter I check in and out---may never hear Triplicate, even on free Spotify, and that's okay.

dow, Monday, 1 January 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link

By the early 80s, we were getting a wider range of extant music than the 70s (like I was starting to find African music, King Sunny Ade, Papa Wemba etc), not to mention post-punk and so on--- good old Van had a lot more competition for my interest and budget.

dow, Monday, 1 January 2018 00:04 (six years ago) link


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